So, you've got a giant alien slug thing (I won't even go into HOW somehting like that could build a space ship or have space travel), and you have NO ONE with guns guarding it? Not even one guy with a pitchfork? Just some meat-cutter wanna-be with a sefety vest and hard hat.

Where have all the good writers gone....? I mean, we're talking BRITAIN here, right?

Is it wrong to think Eve Myles is bloody fit? I didn't see 'psycho-killerishly' eyes, I saw a whole 'I'm actually snogging you' thing, but having thought about it, it could have been a 'there, see, I don't want to snog you. Much' thing... Who knows. Torchwood, it's like craazy. With, er, huge CGI slugs.

@Cr0wley: I have absolutely no idea what you said. Can we have a translation for the colonists please?

@Author

I hate to ask this, but why do you watch Torchwood? At this point you know what you are getting. Now, some episodes are better than others, but the tone of the show has been fairly consistent. You apparently don't like the characters. You don't like the writing or the direction. The acting is apparently a write-off. So, why do you watch?

Now, I like Torchwood. There is massive room for improvement and it is no Dr. Who, but on the whole I never feel like I wasted my time by watching. You seem to disagree. If this is not the case, you might not want to hide your enjoyment so well.

My apologies for my ignorance, but how did you see Torchwood last night? It seems my DVR only picks it up on Saturday nights from BBC America.

"Have you ever eaten alien meat?"
"Yes."
"How was it?"
"I think he enjoyed it."

I thought it was one of the better episodes, except for the bit with Jack apologizing to his new friend. That was a bit wince-inducing.

@dijou:
Everyone I know torrents it. It broadcasts in England quite a bit earlier than in America. I guess it's only fair seeing as they tend to be months behind in our shows. And we all buy DVD sets, so it's not like we aren't supporting the show.

Besides, the USA versions of Torchwood and Dr. Who have to have scenes cut out to make room for commercials. There are some episodes where entire B plots have been given the chop. The only real way to enjoy is in the original format or on DVD.

@Doug Nelson: I agree.

And I wish they'd stop fucking about with Tosh and Owen. It's just stupid. She should be over him by now.

@Ryan.H: Torchwood is special as it's only a week and a half behind. If I had cable I might be willing to endure a week and a half. As it is, I only d/l two shows.

I'm a bit surprised no-one's mentioned the amateurish way the whole Jack loves Gwen loves Jack plot has just been shoehorned in. Seriously, where the f*** did this whole thing come from? That bit in last night's episode with him watching her kiss Rhys on the camera was idiotic in the extreme. When did all this develop? Off camera? In a tie-in series we've not been told of? Or is it going to be like Buffy having a sister?

ENQUIRING MINDS WANT TO KNOW.

I didn't mind the "this is homoerotic" joke, since Jack wasn't really telling the rest of his team that - he was telling Rhys, to annoy him.

And all of the drama just served to remind me that Eve Myles' wide-crazy-eyed look is surprisingly reminiscent of Tom Baker. I hope they have an eye-off in the next Children In Need special or something.

jackieb: go back to the first three or four episodes of season one. Gwen's knickers are sopping for Jack at the beginning. When she can't get him (for some unfathomable reason) she shags Owen instead (for some unfathomable reason). So, the sexual tension between Gwen and Jack is in continuity - it's just that it was largely ignored for most of season one and then resurrected for season two (for some unfathomable reason).

Summary: Torchwood is unfathomable.

@Smithereens: A-ha! I forgot about that. You know, it being absolutely ages ago and as you mention, largely ignored...

Oh, Torchwood. Such potential utterly wasted. *sigh*

They should just give up on Cardiff and start a Torchwood:Edinburgh, preferably with some decent characterization this time around.

Sad. But I think the veal industry is sad. I think keeping birds in cages is sad. Humans do lots of nasty things. And I'm not sure it's because we are all that bad, it's just that many of us lack empathy for creatures that are different from us. Ah, unless they are cute, like bunnies and puppies and kittens...

When you eat the meat of the heavily sedated space turd that was flensed while it's still alive, do you get high? If so, I think it's all for a good cause.

EEEWWWWWW!!!!!!

Well, I didn't know you could get high off of space whale. So, it's natural evironment must be pretty nasty if it has the skill to evolved so quickly. It probably likes the pain. I love alien S-M behavior.

The dynamic of the show was obviously going to change after the end of the third season of Doctor Who; Jack isn't that dark and tormented guy he became some time after the first season of Doctor Who and before the beginning of Torchwood. The fact that everyone in the team seems to have become a bit less OTT in the edgy/oversexed/angsty department is no bad thing.

I can't believe no one has mentioned the gayest line by far...

Gwen: Have you ever eaten alien meat?
Jack: Yup.
Gwen: What was it like?
Jack: Well, he seemed to like it.

Is it always that badly shot? The blocking was terrible.

@EBone: Fit=hot snog=make out. The rest of it? Who TF knows?

I was also pretty confused about the weird Toshiko-throwing-herself-at-Owen part. Isn't she supposed to be getting over frozen-ww2-dude right now? "Here, I made you a sandwich!" [Because I'm a prepubescent school girl who's idiotic strategy is to win men through cheese.]

Jesus. Yeah, I have no idea why Russell Davis wants the show to be such a blatant fuck-fest. It ruins any actual sci-fi they have left.

This all skirts the fact that apparently the Torchwood team is INSTANTLY, (and I mean INSTANTLY because the truck was still smoking) car accident with some "weird meat" when they had no clue that the world's biggest alien had come through the rift.

Whatever alerting system they have, it's /really/ mis-prioritized.

Incidentally, I've become a big fan of much better British time-travelling sci-fi show that's on right now: Primeval.

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