I'd watch it. I appreciate that they used music from the first movie. Also, I really hate that swooshyish sound effect that they use for flames. It sounds really dumb.

I'm mixed between being rather impressed when compared to the awful sequel, and being horribly upset when compared to the awesome original, so I'm just going to go and stand in the middle and watch shit fly from either side.

I actually really liked the first one, probably due to my lack of reading the novel. Skipped the second for obvious reasons.... and I am excited over this. I hope it comes out decent. I will for sure give it a viewing.

"Paul Verhoeven's classic satire"? Are you talking about "Showgirls"?

hopefully we will get a console game off of this one. i think a Starship game would be fun. Not necessarily original but fun. I never saw the sequel but might rent this one if there is nothing else.

@EDread83: Maybe. I think I'd enjoy one if it was done as a Ghost Recon/Halo style game with vehicles and squad commands. I know they did a RTS game at one point for the PC, but I thought it looked awful just from the screens.

@Tim Faulkner:
That's his OTHER classic satire.

Commence planet cracking.

Given the io9 post the other day about what was planned for ST3, I was kind of hoping for a less hammy approach. I mean sure, if it's just ridiculous like the first one, I will be the first person in the theater to see it. And I'm sure I'll love it. But I'd rather see a more sensible exposition of Heinlein's ideas.

Haha. that is fucking awesome. I'm going to make sure to see it just to laugh my ass off.

Lets go crack a planet!

@Tim Faulkner: Nope - talking about how the original Starship Troopers was a satire on the fascist war-state, and how it depicts military expansionish and the xenophobia which allows for its survival. The first Starship Troopers was genius in how certain people just found it an "awesome shoot-em-up." Because that's just what your fascists leaders want you to think.

Reserving judgement on this but really hope it's great.

Yeah, and how do you not keep the original score? That's just mindboggling to me.

@PVIII: Um, I got the intent. Get that Heinlein's book is a classic and is a satire. Don't get how that makes the flick brilliant though. Is every bad movie of a good book brilliant satire now, or is it a good concept losing its purpose through poor execution? I mean I'll gladly put it in the so bad it's good category but not "classic satire." Respect satire too much for that.

No mention about the shot of the power armor? I am surprised. I think that THAT could save the movie if it is indeed bad. I admit re-reading stuff about the suits and all of their different features from the original novel.

Is the 1st one with those horribly overgrown Lice?

@Git Em SteveDave:
Probably just more football pads and hockey helmets.

Wow, this looks like a late night Sat Sci-Fi channel fair. By which I mean b a d.

you guys can all blame me: i was the one who leant them the $36.50 for special effects. Sorry.

The bugs look very much like Antlion Guards.

@Belabras:

My sentiments exactly. Am I alone in not being able to sit through a movie with really poor acting, even if there is lots of "cool stuff happening"? That Saw movie was unwatchable for this reason. And I still have trouble watching Mark Hamill in Star Wars.

@Yatta!: They do indeed, but just to point out - these bugs came first.

@PriorMarcus: didn't they already make a ghost recon/halo style game with a relentless hive mind enemy that uses superior numbers and lack of individuality to assault foes? wasn't it called halo?

@tetracycloide: No, Gears of War.

Starship Troopers to me is all about the power armor, drop pods, drop ships and Doogie Howser, the Nazi Psych Warrior.

@tetracycloide: Oh shit. You meant the Flood right? I thought we were playfully cussing out some games.

But yes, the Flood were exactly that, plus annoying. It's the later part I'm hoping a Starship Troopers game might refine.

@Simpsons-Movie-ruled: It was the one with the giant worm vagina at the end that Doogie Houser talked to.

Unless I'm mistaken, I think Casper Van Diem clarified at WonderCon that "Bombadier" was the name of a character, not a bug. I don't want to spoil anyone, but that wasn't an eye-stalk, it was a stinger... like certain arachnids have.

What the fuck is with T'Pol holding a gun like that? It looks idiotic.

If you're looking for a serious version of _Starship Troopers_, go pick up or rent the TV sersious _Space: Above and Beyond_. It's not great, but it's good. They had some good notions, but it sadly wasn't "dark" or adult enough.

I'm going to wash out my eyes with nitric acid now.

I wasn't into the first movie at all, only because of the lack of power armor.
You know what was actually really cool?
The Starship Trooper anime! Loaded with power armor. <3

It doesn't get any better than Johnny Rico.

On one side of the argument you have all these people who hate Starship Troopers because it wasn't the Heinlein book, and on the other side you have people liked me who loved the movie because it wasn't the Heinlein book. On that we can all agree.

without Verhoeven it can't live up. but i'll give it a shot.

Long Live the BUGS!!!!!

They must be decedents of our beloved Roaches and no matter how much "RAID" we shoot at them they will live on...

Like the Ad from [www.killsbugsdead.com] says: "RAID Kills Bugs Dead", except those in the Starship Trouper Movies!

They forgot to include that last line...

Man....that had almost enough cheese to cover my nachos...almost.

Rant: Okay, putting aside that these films really do take a masterpiece of literature (irregardless of genre) into a mindless heap of dung, pretty much guaranteeing a faithful version of the film won't come out till I'm in my 90s, these movies are tripe. To be frank, they take a shoddy plot, combine it with the least subtle (and interesting) parts of propaganda and comics, and of course let us not forget the 1970s exploitation film-style violence and sex (without the cleverness or irony of Rodriguez or Tarantino). The result? Movies that are barely better than Alexander or Battlefield Earth. Sigh. It is like watching 11-year olds do Shakespeare - painful and entertaining only in that way that makes your stomach wince as you laugh to yourself.

They should just turn it into a proper Melrose Space TV series: all they need is a Marcia Cross character, and we'd have a bug-hunting furniture-chewing BSG-style soap-opera

Wow!!! Thats one big cheesy caserole, with some cheese on the side, followed by a dash of grated cheese, and an order of cheesy fries followed by some cheddar ice cream! I think I just might see it!

@Darkweave: Are you saying that it looks cheesy?

Tim, where did you get the impression that Starship Troopers was a satire? Only in a non-humorous sort of way, if at all. If Heinlein said it was a satire I'd be interested in seeing him quoted. I think he was quite serious about giving the right to vote only to those who earned it. Just like Plato.

Cracking Planets? That's SPORE!

@Jeff-Minor:

he was also widely known for his antiwar beliefs. While ST was probably one of his more right-wing novels, it is most certainly a satire, whether he says so or not.

The original book was NOT a satire. Quite the opposite, actually. But Heinlein also wasn't a fascist. Again, quite the opposite.

You can read some details right here.

@Jeff-Minor: Yeah, actually, I was thinking that too as soon as I wrote it. Plenty have come to think of it as a satire against xenophobia and the perpetuation of a war state. While at the same time it is really an idealistic polemic on how the military and government should operate. Understood. And yet another reason I find Heinlein largely unreadable.

Distinct and saddening lack of powered armor in that trainer. Boo!

The Spaceballs approach to Heinlein - looks awful, though the first one was a decent satire. Shame, though, that the enjoyable aspects of ST won't appear in a movie.

@Tim Faulkner: Fair enough.

Heinlein's ST != satire
Verhoven's ST == satire

@Wizardru - how about a link?

Did those first bug has giant cartoon shark teeth? Or was it just something from the youtubing of the video?
This one looks...meh... the second one was actually interesting by direct to DVD standards.
But I still wanted a true to the book movie.

Ahhh...Just like the previous 2 movies before it, this one keeps the tradition of "We have no clue how to fight a war, so we'll make some cool effects"

This one is going to be suckastic.

Can someone introduce Verhoeven to Eric Flint's books, and then somehow convince Flint that Verhoeven is the guy to make movies out of his books? Because that'd be fucking brilliant.

Also, Charlie, a tip - Forever War was a classic satire of Starship Troopers. The Verhoeven movie was for 14 year old boys who like boobies and guns.