If you'd been watching Felicity eight years ago, and somebody had told you that show's producer would one day own science fiction, you'd have scoffed. And yet, J.J. Abrams may well be the most powerful creator in science fiction today. But is he any good? We've already stated our arguments for and against J.J.'s genius status. Now it's your turn to vote.
Is J.J. Abrams Really A Genius? You Decide
1:00 PM on Thu Mar 6 2008
By Charlie Jane Anders
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Wait and see baby. But for Fringe (X-files part deux)isn't he just producer? I don't think he wrote the thing, he just wants the royalties to go to Bad Robot. Smart guy that J.J.
Looking at everything Abrams has produced, written and/or directed on IMDB, and seeing that "Regarding Henry" would be the top of my list on what I have enjoyed of his, I vote "Hack".
i dunno i havent seen his signature on any these papers here...............
@BlacklistedJoe: you're looking for representation?
@steven522: Oh, dear. He worked on Regarding Henry? I reiterate: Oh, dear.
I'm going to vote for "Felicity" as the best science fiction series ever. There's NO way that a college girl in the real world could afford THAT many sweaters.
Why isn't 'fad' an option. He's not so much a hack as just someone who got lucky. Either his 15 minutes are up, or he's the Brett Ratner of sci-fi.
He's a soap opera writer, and no matter how much science you throw into it, it's still a soap opera.
What confuses me more is how MI3 was actually decent. Possibly the best of those three films.
If J.J. is so great, why did Felicity go straight down the tubes after Keri Russell cut her hair?
/the state rests
@PVIII: Actually he's directing it, but he didn't write it. And he was the third writer on the MI3 script. And he also didn't write Cloverfield. And from what I've heard about Cloverfield, it's an interestingly directed one trick pony.
Maybe he's a decent director who thinks he's a great writer. Who knows.
A little of both...Genius (Lost, Alias, Cloverfield), Hack (What About Brian, snoooooooze)
I was really in love with "Alias" back in the day, and remember how upset I was when it was cancelled so that JJ could work on that weird plane-crash show called "Lost."
So maybe my judgment is a little off.
@Annalee Newitz: Why not 'Oh, boy'?
@aspiringexpatriate: that seems like a common fixation in hollywood. no matter what position you have be it actor, director, writter, or producer if you stay in the business long enough you become so full of yourself you think you can do all of them at once. as evidence of this phenomena i will first present mel gibson who went from mad max, to payback, to apocalypto.
I'm not sure about J.J. I think Lost got better after he left to do other stuff (hiring genius' holds true then).
Alias I felt was always ruined by the fact status quo had to be restored - she's knocked out, she wakes up three years later, next day she's back at work doing what she did before.
How much did he do on Cloverfield? I feel sorry for the director, I can't even remember his name...
I liked JJ more before I knew he had anything to do with Felicity, Forever Young or MI:III (Philip Seymour Hoffman was wasted in that movie. A shame).
So I would have to say "matured professional", a la Tom Hanks and his "Bossoom Buddy" years.
You know what was funny, the last few episodes that Felicity was on, she time travelled back a few months and had to live them over again, except the second time did things differently, with disastrous results. I see the whole time travel thing happening again with Lost ...coincidence?
""" If J.J. is so great, why did Felicity go straight down the tubes after Keri Russell cut her hair? """
I must concur. If he was a genius, that would have never happened.
I vote genius, because all his shows are noteworthy (some might say highly gimmicky, although I don't) in any genre he works in. He gathers together fantastic writers/showrunners. When he steps into the director's chair himself the results can be brilliant (see LOST pilot).
More importantly he is branding Bad Robot as a source of multi generic greatness...and don't even get me started on the viral/transmedia stuff. He is a genuis Ringmaster/ Producer/ Idea Man.
But hey, c'mon. He's no frakkin Kubrick.
MI:3
utter shit
I hate his style...
He's got ideas that he's made work. They don't always end well, but they've got great initial punch. The fact that he can sell these ideas to Hollywood and TV Land says a great deal about his abilities.
Think how cliche super-spy was when Alias came out - yet it totally rethought the genre. It did MI and James Bond better than MI and James Bond did. I think the biggest disappointment with MI3 was that it didn't up the ante any - I totally think that Jennifer Gardner could kick Tom Cruise's butt.
And when I first heard the two liner concept of Lost, I honestly thought it was going to be a modern day Gilligan's Island. The pilot for that show (regardless of your feelings about the storyline since then) was simply amazing - in fact, so was the pilot for Alias. I challenge you to find a pilot that did anywhere near the job of introducing the world and characters, telling an interesting story, and leaving you wanting more. Pilots are often the weakest episodes in a TV series...
So, I think there's weaknesses in the follow-through - I don't know that the ending of any of the stories has matched the incredible kick-off. But as an ideas man who has the guts and salesmanship to get ORIGINAL content off the ground in a TV market filled with boring knock-off content, I gotta give him that.
The problem with JJ's talent is that he's a hype artist. All of his shocks and twists rely on deliberately witholding information from the audience at crucial moments. In that way, he's just the TV version of Dan Brown -- constantly going to commercial with the visual equivalent of "and then he saw the one thing he never expected to see!"
Most of the mysteries of the first three seasons of "Lost" could have been cleared up with a nice, twenty minute heart-to-heart chat.
His characters simulate emotions, and seem to be feeling things that are relevant to the current mood, but they're just elaborately crafted reflections. If the character dilemmas or predicaments were delivered in a straightforward, linear manner, they'd be far, far less interesting. The drama is in the manipulating, not the character. And as anyone who just sat through "Vantage Point" can attest, there's nothing so annoying as being deliberately kept in the dark for no reason other than wankery.
Whedon, on the other hand, does a pretty exceptional job of capturing character depth, with just a fraction of Abrams' silly, post-modern trickery.
he's the new m. night shyamalan. starts strong, can't be bothered to stick around long enough for a decent finish. boooooooooo.
@PVIII: He wrote it w. Kurtzman and Orci...
> I must concur. If he was a genius, that would
> have never happened.
It just goes to show that in Hollywood, a hot chick is more important than a genius.
Felicity was way hotter with long hair than short.
@BlacklistedJoe: Doctor Sam Beckett stepped into the Quantum Leap accelerator and vanished...
Little of both, I love Lost never saw Felicity and hated Alias and MI3. We'll have to see what he does with Star Trek.
...but after Berman and Braga, it's going to be hard to do worse...
Click the link below and listen to JJ at TED 2007:
[www.ted.com]
This will help flesh out the whole genius question thing... I thought he did quite well on stage.
He's done a couple of things that were genius, a couple of things that were crap, and a lot in the middle. Why this need to box him into one category or another?
A little of both, maybe. I think he's just a creative guy who's gotten lucky. I enjoy Lost, but I haven't really seen much of his other stuff. Definitely not a genius, though.
Both.
He's done a wide-range of things but you can see the similar patterns or elements in almost all of them. Like his choice of male/female leads who almost always have the same look and feel.
Also towards the end all his series - Felicity, Alias, Lost - tend to go off on some disappointing loophole-filled tangent.
@OldDog1: And this is the same pattern. He can start stuff but he has yet to prove he can deliver an ending.
Hacky McHackersons.
From the other thread (why does io9 double up like this in the space of a few hours?):
JJ Abrams wakes up in a cold sweat every morning, staring in half-dreaming panic at the sign he had posted over his bed. The sign is a picture of Chris Carter microwaving a burrito in a dingy LA 7-11. Carter's eyes are red from booze and tears, his cheeks unshaven. Around the picture, writ large in gold and Sharpie is the motto, "Respice post te! Hominem te esse memento!"
from a storytelling perspective, i think JJ has mastered the ACT I and ACT II for traditional American storytelling structure. this makes for great TV which the broadcast companies want in a series - forever ongoing. i think with Abrams it's nearly a mental compulsion to turn any final act III into a II by tacking on some mind bender. I think MI3 was an example of how he had trouble really tying something together in a unique way. anyway that's enough for blog comment.. i love watching his work and also get frustrated by it at times
I didn't read all of the responses but I wanted to say this:
Felicity=Genius
For that I will always regard JJ Abrams as a man among men.
My big gripe with JJ. He starts many great stories, but rarely finishes any, and the ones he does finish are big dud's.
Anyone who works with him needs a "stick till the end" clause put in to the contract.
Not to get too off topic, but for some reason, that picture sure makes my wiener feel funny.
beginnings are easy. beginnings are cheap. dimeadozen. you can't approach anywhere in the neighborhood of "genius" unless you can finish strong.
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