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A Childless World Turns To A Sewer -- Hopefully Without Hair-Flipping

David Eick's TV version of P.D. James' novel Children of Men sounds as though it'll use its dark future without children to explore some fascinating themes. In a world where you don't have any responsibility to the next generation, what behavior is too extreme? His weekly drama will look at how society changes when people stop believing humanity will continue as a species. All of which does sound fascinating, and worth exploring in a TV show even after a high-profile movie. But of course, Eick talked up some great thematic ideas about his now-cancelled Bionic Woman show too. So keep your fingers firmly crossed. [Sci Fi Wire]

3:10 PM on Fri Mar 21 2008
By Charlie Jane Anders
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  • ...and then the Galactica arrives with the Cylon fleet on its ass...

  • On the bright side it can't have pouty kid sisters.

  • If it's on Sci-Fi it's going to suck.....period. Just about every show that channel has been involved in has been boring as all hell. The movie kicked all sorts of ass, so why does there have to be a lame tv show in the first place?

  • The movie was one of the best I've seen in a long time.

    Shit creates shit so I'd be shocked if the TV series is any good. Instead of contemplating the end of humanity, I'm guessing a combo of the worst traits of Logan's Run and X-games with some pseudo intellectual jargon that is their idea of intelligence.

    Of course, I'd admit I'm still haunted by the one episode I saw of the Bionic Woman.

  • @ManchuCandidate: I assume you're haunted by how bad it was. It's okay. We all are.

    I'd actually like Bryan Singer to stop screwing around and finally get to his Logan's Run adaptation, which was supposedly going to hew closer to the book. The things I heard sounded brutally fun.

  • Are there any sites that do a good job of closeups on all those newspapers that we saw in that scene with Clive Owen? I was freezframing the DVD but doing so on a 12" computer laptop so I could only catch parts of it....

  • If this was done in the spirit of the film and the novel, it would be the bleakest thing on TV (but I'd still watch).

    Can Sarah Corvus be in this show?

  • I won't watch the series. The movie was utterly brilliant and uncompromisingly savage, but I could not take anything remotely like that on a weekly basis.

  • Great. A tv series where slitting one's wrists actually seems like a constructive activity.

  • NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO! God you fucking tasteless American media moguls, please stop messing with great stories. Leave the novel alone. Leave the movie alone. Do us all a favor and actually CREATE something!

  • @crescentia: Farscape and BSG. The rest are as you say.

    @shehanum: Wait, you mean, like, think of new ideas? I'd love to, but studios won't buy them. Too risky.

  • @ManchuCandidate: still haunted by the one episode I saw of the Bionic Woman. I still have the screaming nightmares. There should be a support group or something.

    Honestly, I shake my head. Some stories need to shift you sideways in reality. The movie was brilliant - amazing acting all around. But, it worked because, sitting in a dark cinema, it was able to "shift" you to that reality and hold you there for a few hours.

    This is why (the early) Aliens movies worked so well. For an hour and a half, you were IN that ship with Ripley.

    Would the Alien story work in episodic television where it's lead it could be a rerun of 3's Company? Would Children of Men? I think we should look at The Sarah Connor Chronicles to answer that question.

  • I'll only watch it if they run it back to back with Jeremiah. That show was a guilty pleasure of mine.

  • Image of DaiMacculate DaiMacculate at 10:44 AM on 03/22/08 *

    I don't know about others, but the main reason I didn't watch Bionic Woman was because I was kind of pissed about the iTunes-NBC debacle. Not because I'm some fanatical apple partisan, but because I had previously subscribed to iTunes seasons of BSG, Heroes, etc and had basically replaced my Cable Box with an Apple TV. Since BSG is the only good Sci-Fi on TV (Heroes Season 2 was a real let down) right now, basically they forced me to get cable again to watch Season 4....so now I don't watch NBC at all. If I weren't so impatient to watch new eps of BSG I might just turn to illegally downloading them instead of watching Sci-Fi, but I can't wait the 5-10 hours it takes those files to go online, I'm that rabid for the show.

    So anyway, my point is that, having thought Children of Men the movie was interesting if a bit heavily overwrought, I could see the same type of acting and scripting used on BSG making that scenario feel a bit more realistic and less preachy, and if its on Sci-Fi I might watch it, on NBC I probably won't bother...yes its the same company but they make more money on the ads they show on NBC than Sci-Fi.

    Same reason I didn't buy the BSG Season 3 DVD or the HD-DVD Season 1 (well that had a bunch of defects according to amazon feedback), until they let me download their stuff again I'm not gonna give them any more money/viewership than necessary.

    Seriously, at the end of Children of Men I was half-shocked that Moore and Owen didn't come on screen and ask for Money for greenpeace or something. Not that the movie was bad, but I was feeling the back of my head for 2x4 marks, a little subtlety goes a long way.

  • Children of Men was the best film of the past 10 years.

    TV show? Why? To build off its huge box office?

    Everything that needed to be said was said in that incredible film. If not spoken, then embedded in the production design, costumes, etc.

    To call it a "war show" is to miss the point entirely. We're living in a "war show" right now. Film simply reflected that. Get a clue, Eick.

    You'd have to go back to Roger Waters "Amused to Death" to find artwork/texture on the same level of Children of Men. Both are NOT subtle pieces, BTW.

    TV is about providing narrative context to sugar water and cell phone service. That's why Eick's brooding stuff (mostly) won't play. What's he going to do? Give us silly "end of the world" behavior lessons each week, while the real apocalypse (of consumerism) plays in the commercial pods?

    Amazing how TV people think they are NOT part of the problem. They are the biggest enablers of all...

  • @MisterEight: What huge box office was that? It was a brilliant film, but a survey of Vancouver can't find anybody else who saw it...I wouldn't call its box office huge.

    @njudahchronicles: Watch the film with VLC and you can create screenshots of your own...pan and zoom to your heart's content.

    Keep in mind you won't get more pixels that is in DVD (your 12" laptop probably displays more anyway.)

    I recall paying attention in the theatre the second time I saw it, and the headlines were pretty grim.

  • David Eick still has some BSG credit to spend with me so I'll give it a look. The movie was nearly unwatchable for me due to it's very heavy handed lefty preaching.

  • @darcymcgee:

    Sarcasm. It did no box office.

    @Kiamat:

    And BSG doesn't preach from the left?

  • Who's foolish enough to think that the species will continue?

    And it wasn't a brilliant film - it didn't even have a story. It was a just a nicely shot vision of a dystopian future.

  • I'll certainly give this one a shot. The premise is endlessly fascinating, and I have a voracious dystopian appetite. And like many of you I was absolutely blown away by the film.

    Remind me again what exactly was leftist about the film? That fascism is bad? Immigrants are humans too? Those things seem pretty self evidently bipartisan to me.

  • Children of Men just was not a stunning piece of Sci-Fi but masterpiece of cinema.

    It was such a delicious piece of dystopian candy that I am once excited and have a longing sense of dread about this proposed TV show.

  • Image of Macloserboy Macloserboy at 07:36 AM on 03/24/08 *

    @NeoPoliticus: "Man struggles to save the first pregnant woman in on earth in 20 years" isn't a story? Gee, seems like a story.

  • @NeoPoliticus:
    "Didn't have a story". ???

    So the whole plot about finding the last/first pregnant woman in 20 years and trying to get her to safety and meeting different people along the way willing to fight, die and/or kill for that chance didn't qualify as a "story"?


  • The most extraordinary thing about the film -- from a sci fi character perspective -- is how unremarkable Clive Owen's character is. So many lesser films would have turned him into an ass kicking superhero ninja pirate from the moon. But he's not a hero, he's just a man, trying to do something heroic.

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