The best thing about the recent WGA strike? It gave Battlestar Galactica writers the chance to rethink and rewrite the entire second half of their final season, according to showrunner Ron Moore, saving us from episodes with titles called "Oh Jesus, Can I Have Five More Minutes? No? Okay, Then, This Time Around Starbuck Is A Cylon, Whatever."
Speaking at a press conference, Moore explained the seeming change of direction:
The writers had worked out what the arc in the back half [of the fourth season] was already... I think [the strike] actually benefited the show in some ways in that... we started to think about things that we could change, things we could make better. And when the strike was over... we wrote the second half of the season all over again.And as to how the season will end now? Edward James Olmos isn't optimistic:
It's devastating... don't watch this program; it's not an easy ride.
The new season starts a week on Friday. Bring your security blanket.
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Eddie's been almost comically morose about this series from the get-go I think they send him out with one mission and Sackoff with another just to confuse the audience.
"it's not an easy ride."
Gee, just like life! Cool.
Evidently he's done this before. From WENN (circa 11 July 2003):
"Don't Watch My Program," Advises Star
In one of the oddest promotional appearances ever before the TV Writers Summer Tour, Edward James Olmos, who is starring in a new Battlestar Galactica miniseries due to air on the Sci-Fi Channel, gave this advice to fans of the original Galactica series, which aired on ABC between 1978 and 1980: "Please don't watch this program," Olmos said. "Buy yourself the new DVDs that they're putting out of the old episodes, and whenever we come on, just put that one in. ... Trust me. Don't watch it. If you're a real, real staunch Battlestar Galactica person, please don't watch it."
I stupidly didnt watch the first three seasons, I started with the miniseries last night, and as long as netflix doesnt let me down, i plan on being ready next friday!
@Bell County:
If you're a real, real staunch Battlestar Galactica person, please don't watch it.
Can't blame the man for trying to divert the horde of "Starbuck is a man!" balding fanboys bent on besieging his house.
@HeyThereKiller:
now THAT is dedication. My only worry in your case would be the others who have the same idea. If I were you, I'd start a torrent going of the third season. If you don't need it, no loss, but if there are delays it will be worth it, even if a slightly lower quality.
I, for one, am going to re watch the last two episodes of the third season right before the new one.
@HeyThereKiller: Wow that is admirable. You are in for one frakkin good week.
Fighting. Urge. to spoil.. ggrrrrrrrr.
Ahhh, there, I can fight my demons. Enjoy the best show ever.
Comment on Battlestar Finale Rewritten, Depressing I'm actually nervous about the fourth season. I should be worried about paying for my child's education and my mortgage, taxes...but this bothers me more. That can't be a good sign.
So they're all going to die, aren't they?
@HeyThereKiller: Get on wit'ya bad self! I've got season 3 deliveries coming via Netflix for the next week - ahh... discs 2 & 3 this weekend and then the rest all week long! With this and the baseball season starting, it's almost too much for one fan to stand... I'll try tho!
@extracrispy:
Nah.
Neil Patrick Harris is going to ride to the rescue on a unicorn.
Turn's out it was all a Centurions dream, while he was having maintenance.
@extracrispy: No way, they'll get to earth, Wolfman Jack will be at the turntables, Rodney Dangerfield will pop up out of Centurion costume and yell "Hey, Let's PARTY" Journey will come on over Tyrol's radio and they will all dance around get naked and make babies...
The end.
When Olmos says "it's not an easy ride" he's just refferring to his part with Rosyln in the end scene described above.
@Sturm Truppen:...and he's got a little Battlestar in a snow globe.
@extracrispy:
Cool. Battlestar Blackadder.
@HeyThereKiller: Thats wishful thinking, i'm up to "hand of god" on my rewatching mission and i'm not optimistic.
Also I read a sly statement in an interview today that affirms my suspicion that Joseph Adama will be the fifth and final cylon. Katee Sackoff was talking about the fifth one and she said
KS: But they've already brought that person. They have them contracted now.
To me that says the fifth one was not cast before the 4th season started. Ron Moore has also said that neither William Adama, Lee Adama, Laura Roslin, Kara Thrace, Karl Agathon, nor Gaius Baltar is the fifth Cylon.
Now it could be a more minor character, but a lot of these would be anticlimactic. But how good could it be if it was a character that we hadn't seen at all? Isn't that a cop out?
Not if its Joseph Adama. They've indicated that the final five have been around a lot longer than the others, possibly as far back as kobol. We know from the Caprica pitch that J Adama was instrumental in the creation of the metal cylons. They've been mentioning him more in the series lately. As long as they lead into it with some flashbacks, grandpa Adama could be a huuuge mindfuck for the Admiral and Lee.
and bring full circle what Leoben originally said to Roslin before she airlocked him.
The fifth Cylon is Kendra Shaw. I think Eddie Olmos' statements might be a bit of poorly placed reverse psychology.
The wife and I are rewatching season three and we're now in the back half. We'll probably skip The Woman King, A Day In The Life And Dirty Hands because they kinda were filler until the last four episodes. (Dirty Hands wasn't bad. watching Chief Tyrol play Cesar Chavez in space was fun but it was something that should have happened in season one, or early seaosn two, not at the end of season three).
The fifth Cylon is Gaeta. I'm putting money on it. The other four Cylons were in secondary but instrumental roles, as forces for change, or as the right hand of a powerful person. Gaeta served the number One role to Baltar during the occupation and helped the resistance in a crucial way. he also has the occasional intuitive insight that seems to be a halmark of Cylons.
Olmos doesn't use psychology, reverse or otherwise. He just beats you to death with a big flashlight. Like a MAN!
@Gyrus: If Geata is the fifth why didn't he hear the music and meet with the other four? Geata is not the fifth. The fifth Cylon is someone who is not on Galactica.
@Gyrus: Agreed. While I'm not a fan of the stand-alone episodes, I thought Dirty Hands was a prime example of how to do it well. I love the moment at the end between Starbuck and Seelix.
I used to think Dee was going to be the final Cylon because she got with two very well connected members of the fleet. But now I think that was just a red herring.
Dee also got sick in The Woman King, with a disease that didn't affect the Cylons (or any colonials who weren't Apollian-Scientists from Geminon)
@NaleAne: Good point. I'm sure there's a way around it though. Maybe he was in the head at the time?
Hotdog is the fifth cylon! Go Hotdog! I predict a lot of screen time for Bodie Olmos in season 3.
The BSG finale will be Edward James Olmos wakes up from a dream, only he's Gaff from Blade Runner.
@NaleAne: Agreed. If the 5th was on Galactica, he/she would've heard the music and been activated. In fact, I need to rewatch the finale to see if Tori hears it while on Colonial One - I'm thinking the final cylon might not even be in the fleet.
Another reason why it's probably not Gaeta, as Baltar's right hand, he had regular contact with Centurions. Why might this be important? You'll see on 4/4. :-)
having a fifth cylon revelation that won't knock main characters on their asses will be boring.
I thought gaeta back in season 1 but now if it was him i'd be like... oh... whatever.
cain is the only non Joseph Adama option i'd consider.
@edosan: No way, he wakes up and realizes he's a cop in Miami. That would be the most brutal to the fans.
@NaleAne: Are we so sure that the four who heard the music are Cylons? I haven't really followed any of the news or spoilers but I think I'd have heard if that was confirmed.
How about this: Starbuck wakes up from a dream to find Bobby Ewing taking a shower.
Sure, worked for Family Guy.
So out of 9 nuked colonies and billions of incinerated humans, the final five individual, unaware Cylons all just conveniently happen to survive and be in the fleet together?
I feel the writers have painted the story into the Corner Of Contrived Convenience with this outing. I just don't buy it. Was there no other, more clever narrative direction to end the series with?
I would take Eddie at his word. . .
He maybe given to hyperbole but he's as straight a shooter as they come.
Whatever he says, I've never heard him make a statement he didn't genuinely believe.
If he says things are headed to a dark place I believe him --
besides isn't that one of the things we love about 'Galactica' in the first place?
@Zantor: Try Zack Adama.
@taxbaby: Zack Adama wakes up from a dream to see Bobby Ewing in a shower?
It's Tom Zarek, I suspect.
He wasn't on Galactica, so he didn't hear the siren call (or was unable to attend the little get-together). Given his situation, he's unlikely to get authorization to go onboard.
Though the character has been absent for most of the third season, the actor has been talking some loopy stuff about Tom's role in the new season.
All of the final four were active in the resistance movement on New Caprica. When Zarek showed up, he revealed he'd been in a holding cell for four months (since the Cylons arrived) and it looked like someone had kicked the crap out of him.
All the more reason why D'anna would have apologized when she'd seen him in his shiny white form.
Plus, it would be ironic to have the one holdover from the original series be a Cylon.
I've been wrong before about the way the show's gone, but I cannot imagine another character who would fit better.
not an easy ride?
I guess they don't show up on planet earth in the 1980's on flying motorcycles wearing disco clothes and big hair?
Well that sucks then...
@munkles: It is not hard to imagine that they somehow knew the attack was coming...
Boomer did all sorts of stuff while consciously believing herself to be human...
I adore Olmos - he's so hilarious in his pronouncements of the show's grimness. I stopped watching at the end of season three and won't sample S4 unless I hear it's utterly fantastic and has continuity, but my love for Admiral Adama makes that a difficult resolution. It was such a letdown to see how they abandoned logic and consistency and nuance for shock value in S3.
Maybe the WGA strike and reworked episodes will have given Ron Moore time to reflect on his mistakes, but I've lost trust in the man. It's depressing (more so than the potential series ender!), because the first season and a half of BSG was really and truly the best television I'd ever seen.
@capntim: Wouldn't that make Bill Adama a child of human and Cylon parents and defeat the purpose of the Sharon/Helo baby?
@munkles: I agree, and so does one of my friends. Her statement is: The Cylons may have a plan, but the writers don't.
@extracrispy:
Everyone does...
-Kle.
@Evil Tortie's Mom:
How about this:
Bobby Ewing wakes up to find Zack, Lee and Starbuck in the shower!
(Don't be dropping the soap Zack)
That's hot. Apollo can fire his missile into my Death Star exhaust port any time he wants. *leers*
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