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Image of Grey_Area Grey_Area 03/31/09

OH GRODD, THERE SHE GOES WITH THE POLITICS AGAIN!!!

AAAARRRGH!! STOP MAKING US THINK!

heh


I enjoyed this analysis, very thought-provoking. I'm a bit depressed at the thought that we will always need someone to oppress even if we have to build them. Maybe we can "break the cycle".

One statement irked me though.


They want to be able to have babies when and how they want, just the way twentieth century feminists did.


Did feminists really achieve that goal? If so, what do you broads want now? Reply


Image of cam cam 03/31/09

'Did feminists really achieve that goal? If so, what do you broads want now'?


as eddy murphy would say, 'HALF!'.@Grey_Area: Reply


Image of Annalee Newitz Annalee Newitz 03/31/09

@Grey_Area: We want you to have our babies for us. And clean up. And bring me a goddamn beer. Reply

Image of Grey_Area Grey_Area 03/31/09

@Annalee Newitz: Coming dear!


Nah, but really. It's not like the reproductive rights thing has really been settled, right? Roe v Wade is still being challenged or threatened. Medical advances like in vitro, birth control, and fertility drugs* give women more options but access is limited by income or legal/religious restriction.


I think people will finally get control over their reproduction when we figure out artificial wombs or therapies that allow women to be able carry a child to term safely at a later age when she is more financially secure. At the same time there should be a concerted effort to SLOW DOWN the population growth*. More through education than legislation though, illegal birthing creches sounds like a horrible possibility if birth laws were to be passed.


Hmm, I think I just advocated more choices and more control at the same time. I guess it's all a bit of a me (grey area).


But yeah, I had some serious questions about feminism and reproductive rights. I can be serious, too!


*Oh, and Octomom, you are totally not helping. Reply


Image of StargateCommander StargateCommander 04/01/09

@Grey_Area:

yeah women see babies as pets. they just want to have babies when the feeeel like it. and then regret it.
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Image of Slatz_Grobnik Slatz_Grobnik 04/01/09

@Grey_Area: Additionally, Roe itself establishes a 'technological' restriction that paints an alternate picture to yours.


Roe uses science, by accepting a conceptual turning point between where the mother's rights trump the state's rights, lying somewhere around where viability for the fetus is achieved.


Now, if that's the standard, once we have the magiwomb3000, there is no turning point, and there is no point where the mother's interests trump the state's.


Creepy? Yes. Reply


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