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Image of firstanointed firstanointed 12/08/08

He thought that story of the alien coming to Earth with a warning, a perspective outside of what humans can see, was a worthwhile tale...


...but Scott, you took the aliens perspective OUT of perspective.


The environmental slant is a disservice to the still verey relevent angle of TDTESS's story. Klaatu didn't care if we blew ourselves to hell in a handbasket, just as long as we didn't take the universe with us. And THAT was a direct analogy for the nuclear capable countries of the world constantly threatening war against each other, while ignoring the billions of other people who would be affected by their stupid wars. This idea STILL applies, so why change the scope of the story??? Reply


Image of corpore-metal corpore-metal 12/08/08

@firstanointed: Hear, hear! Reply

Image of AmishJohn AmishJohn 12/08/08

@firstanointed: Amen. As it has been stated before, when the focus went from "You're too violent to let associate with civilized races." to "You're sloppy pigs, and rather then let you clean up your messes, or teach you any of our nifty new tech that makes pollution into rainbow-crapping unicorns, we're gonna turn y'all into dust.", I lost faith. The first is self-preservation, the second smacks of limousine liberals; they want (pet peeve alert) to ban all those nasty guns - while employing armed guards. Reply

Image of NotArthurPDragon NotArthurPDragon 12/08/08

@firstanointed: Because that film was about cold war fears. This one is about environmental fears. In the first, they were willing to destroy the earth to protect the universe ("This world of yours will be reduced to a burned out cinder.") In this one, the resources of the universe are seemingly as precious and limited as those here, so the same instinct of self-preservation is still in effect.


@AmishJohn: That gun metaphor makes no sense at all considering this isn't about weapons and war but pollution. They aren't trying to stop violence from spreading by using violence, but willing to kill to save a house in a housing shortage. Reply


Image of firstanointed firstanointed 12/08/08

@NotArthurPDragon: Cold war, environmental war, how do you separate it? Decades after the major conflicts, decades after Hiroshima, people are still being affected by the aftermath of the ordnance used in those events. Whatever environmental problems we have now are the direct result of reckless and irresponsible industrialization--usually the product of one of our wars.


Now fictionally, Klaatu's idea was to stop Man from jetting into space and terrorizing others with our rockets. Realistically, our idea is to utilize space to shoot fancier rockets at "terrorists". Certainly the ecological issues present themselves, but the centric issue is still our inherent violent nature. Reply


Image of AmishJohn AmishJohn 12/08/08

@NotArthurPDragon: What I mean is they're willing to use methods that they wish to deny to others. Reply

Image of im.thatoneguy im.thatoneguy 12/08/08

@AmishJohn:
Both films are fundamentally flawed.


If aliens have tech to travel the universe then they surely can teach us a thing or two and fix us.


It's the Jesus complex. I'm not going to help you but in a little while now I'm going to kill everybody I don't like. Tata for now.


Or Narnia (again Jesus complex). Aslan hides out in the woods while everybody fighting for his cause voluntarily goes into battle to make the world a better place. "You didn't ask for my help." Fuck you Aslan, they didn't ask the mouse for help and even he, a lowely mouse, volunteered to do the right thing. Reply


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