This comment is like the age-old (not literally) debate on whether or not The Man in the High Castle should be considered science-fiction. Or, like, Pattern Recognition.

...or whether anything can/should be considered science-fiction, really. The argument just goes in circles and never gets anywhere. Kind of hated discussing stories like these in lit courses for that reason...
Haven't seen it yet, but everyone I know who has says its completely mediocre compared to the manga, so I assume I won't like it much. The manga series is ridiculously good (though I haven't been following it for the past 2 years or so, so I have no idea of any recent developments).
@Mister_Roboto: White Tulip was, I think, the one episode which really affected me emotionally, more than any of them. I agree, it should be on the list, perhaps not so much for the connection to the overarching storyline, but just for the sheer emotional punch it packs.

(and this from someone who usually despises time travel stories)
@JRD_2: I also hated the first, and watched the premiere of the second on accident, and was immediately hooked and inspired to watch the rest of the second, on into the third. So I'd give it another try if I were you. Just skip the first season entirely :)
@bakana: I stopped watching after the very first three episodes. Then I randomly caught the second season premiere and was legitimately blown away, even though I had very little idea of what, exactly, was going on. I wikipedia'd a little so I wasn't as confused, and ended up watching every single episode of season 2, on the edge of my seat the entire time.

So basically, I don't even think you need to watch ANY of the first season. The second is so infinitely better that there will be no real need, unless you want more detailed backstory.

And then the third season premiere last week was my most anticipated episode of the entire fall season of tv. So, the series definitely improved a thousand-fold, in my opinion.
Return to Oz will always be my sequel :(

"A chicken?!"
More than anything, I am SO EXCITED to finally see Claudine at the end of that :D I cannot wait!
@Chaffro: Gordon-Levitt's scenes were my favorite. They were absolutely beautiful to watch.

And I agree, its difficult to put into coherent, intelligent words how great of an experience seeing this film was.
I can't watch 5 minutes of tv on any station without seeing commercials for this thing. I don't know how its possible that anyone could not know what it is.
I love how the last one is in the style of Mucha art-nouveau advertisements.
@Captain_Tripps: Yeah, especially since she's pretty important in the third book, and like someone else said, her death is a pretty big deal because of how it happens. I had no doubt in my mind that her being set on fire was completely in his head.
@thefloodgod: I agree, I think it would go way too slow and get a little stagnant if they didn't have so many things happening to so many characters. After all, it is an ensemble piece, and so we can't just focus on a single storyline or a single character or two.
@samarkand: Yeah, no show is taking itself seriously when it adds in Nazi werewolves to the equation. Its nonsense like this that makes me love it even more.
Ignoring the strange fact that it's a Vodka ad that seemingly is trying to sell the "coolness" of the art and ignoring the actual meaning behind it, that is really neat looking. Also terrifying.
@Josh Wimmer: Yes, he is. I think he's probably one of my favorite literary characters after reading the novel. And I agree, their relationship was so well done, when, at the hands of a lesser author, it might have ended up being a bit unrealistic :)
@Platypus Man: Yeah, I agree. I also read this in a scifi lit class. We had a big debate about who's fault it was, and in the end I think we pretty much unanimously decided that because Genly saw them as men most of the time because of his own prejudices, then that's the way the writing seemed to portray them.
@SupaChupacabra: I love that she focuses on anthropological themes. I think that is what really caught my eye in the first plcae. You just don't see that discussed very much.
We just read Left Hand in my sci-fi lit course I'm taking. It's been on my list for a while, and because it takes me forever to get around to reading stuff, I was really glad I was being forced to read it in class.

I adored it. It's one of my top books now, and it was so different from anything I've ever really read before. And beautifully written, with beautiful characters. By the end of the book, I think Genly and Estraven's characters had the neatest relationship. The exploration of their friendship was incredibly well-done and very interesting. Both characters were fabulously written, but I really liked how noble Estraven was. He really affected me.

I also loved the character of Faxe and his philosophy. That chapter (it might've been chapter 5?) was my favorite in the book.

I ended up writing a paper on the "alien" of the novel, and how that idea is turned on its head by turning the main character, the "normal" human, into the alien, and us with him, since we are as he is. It was a fun writing exercise :)

Anyways, this book. Love it. So much.
I'd love it if a movie version of Mirror, Mirror by Gregory Maguire (Wicked) was made. It's my favorite re-telling of Snow White, but partly just because it's half historical-fiction, takes place in Renaissance Italy, and features the Borgias as the villains. It's also fairly dark, though probably not as dark as Ratner is planning (nor as dark as that one with Sigourney Weaver...)

(*hinthintnudgenudge* Read it, it's awesome.)
@HQuest: But most religions have a form of purgatory that they believe in. Its not universal to Christianity at all.
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