Really enjoyed it, not impressed at all by Paris Hilton's acting ability, but just seeing her willing to say those lines has raised my respect for her enormously
I though the idea that WAR was dependant on a trinket a bit silly. To be honest i really thought it the ring was going to turn out to be worthless and that WAR would just turn round after they took it off him and say "What? You think a dime store piece of costume jewellery is gonna help you?" and laugh at them and they'd have to find some other way of getting rid of him
@gorehound: OK but personal testimonies do not a scientific undertaking make. On the other hand thats an intersting method to research pot vs schizophrenia, so thanks for reporting it Annalee
I'd like to put forward John Wyndham as an earlier writer of post apocalyptic fiction. The Kraken Wakes was 1953 and Day of the Triffids was 1951
@Zuli5: The Doctor Who book "The Also People" does pretty well at imagining a utopia. Its set in a dyson sphere with (Iain M Banks) culture level technology.

I think most of time there's a problem creating drama in a utopia, theres also a problem in people feeling empathy for characters living in one.

@kodamawu: absolutely. I'm utterly convinced that Picard is still in the Nexus. It's supposed to give you the most fantastic life and what does Picard do next? He trounces the guy that killed him by teaming up with Kirk, then goes off and wallops the Borg and then falls in love. The christmasy family rubbish was so obviously not his ideal fantasy but just something he had to work through, kicking the Borgs ass would be so much more up his alley plus it explains why they suddenly develop a Queen in an non-heirarchical collective - a simple enemy he can fight.
>>>Also, another random internet commenter points out that "Water Of Mars" is an anagram of "Wars Of Master" or I suppose "Master Of Wars."

Its also an anagram of Hamster Software!!!!!

Happy Birthday IO9, hope you're all having wonderful party to celebrate. You've been making me smile every morning for a year (well almost every morning - I'm not sure I was smiling when you told me Knight Rider was being remade, but thats another story), so you deserve it.
You are there in my list of things I do when I wake up along with Boing Boing and Lol Cats and most days you're also the last thing I do at night.
Good luck for the new year and all the best.
@What Would Kornheiser Do?: Interesting theory about Miss Rattigen, I'm with you on that one.
Oh and I loved it anyway :)
Add to the list pf problems with the episode, just how much power would (at maximum) eighty starved children working for three minutes add to the cybermens power levels?

A friend of mine has suggested that maybe they just needed enough power to start off a chain fusion reaction of some sort, which could kinda make sense.

Which I kinda like but it did grate a bit at the time.

@Timothy Wilson: >>>The giant robot was totally out of character for the entire series. Time-travel episodes set on earth never had anything this amazing/huge/crazy happen. It's supposed to be a twist on some historic event, so we can all snicker and say "oops, the doctor was responsible for that one too!"

True but plenty of amazing stuff happened in the contempory episodes (Abominable Snowmen - Yeti's in the London Underground, Terror of the Zygons - Loch Ness Monster swimming up the Thames, Aliens of London - Spaceship crashing into Big Ben) which has clearly not happened in our timeline thats its pretty safe to assume that a healthy does of suspension of disbelief is worth having when watching Doctor Who.

Its unfortunately thrty years to early to have been covered up by Torchwood, but perhaps there were other agencies working with similar aims. Retconning it to work is all part of the fun :)

@Elizabeth Weinbloom: Nah, cos its tweleve regenerations and thirteen bodies, so its could be the next doctor or the one after that or the one after that one too.
@TheRealVeon: the misogyny comment is very true, i cant disagree with you, I dont know about the antisemitism, could you offer examples (I dont doubt you are right, just I'm a bit unaware -increasing my awareness would be a good thing)
I think one of the problems he's going to come up against, if he looks at Harry Potter as an archetypal fantasy book is how awful it is in terms of the messages it sends to children. I love the books, I think in plot terms they are excellent they're just really enjoyable reads. However if you look at the backdrop to the books, it's a pretty awful society they're living in. Look at the treatment of House Elves for one, Hermione sticks up for them and everybody laughs at her for doing so, protecting the rights of downtrodden creatures is just scorned, the same treatment goes for all other sentient creatures. Muggles (even the name is derogatory) are viewed as stupid and incapable of running their own lives, democracy is ignored, the world is run on secret dictatorships and anyone who finds out gets their memory wiped. On a smaller level, although self sacrifice, honour and friendship are lauded, Hermione's intelligence, whilst often used to solve problems is repeatedly scoffed at. Things are almost always solved by Harry doing whatever the hell he feels like and it just turning out to be the correct course. Oh and the levels of care and responsibility of the teachers at the schools pretty bad too.

Whereas the older fairy tales usually tell quite different sorts of stories, be careful what you wish for, wishing wont solve anything, be who you are, and dont go walking in the woods when there are wolves about.

Um, isnt the fact tht its a museum of industry (as well as science) the thing? Harry Potter as an industry is pretty big and worthy of documenting, at least in cultural phenomena term,
Fantastic, get me ready for the future
Aw you missed out both the end of The Face of Evil part one and part three, the first where Doctor finds out the reason everyones been calling him the 'Evil One', a giant carving of his face set in a cliff, and the second a really demented Xoanon (a supercomputer with a split personality, half of which is the Doctors) throwing a hissy fit at the Doctor's existence. Starts off with "I grow tired, I will think you no longer" and ends up in a cacophany of voices out of which comes this tiny child voice screaming "Who am I?", "Who am I?" (Voiced by some lucky bastard of a Blue Peter competition winner, no less).
@Trai_Dep: Damn you getting to the punch before me, thats exactly what I was gonna say.
@HighNoon: I think its more about the neccessary physical ability to cope with the filming schedule than what appears on screen, I seem to remember Christopher Eccleston saying it was basically 9 months of physical exhaustion.
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