This pilot sounds like it would be much easier to sustain than the pilot for LOST sounded at this stage. LOST had a great pilot and it teased a few mysteries but it did not sound like a show that could go on for 22 episodes, let alone 6 seasons.
I imagine each episode will deal with a new prisoner showing up while the central mystery inches forward.
I imagine each episode will deal with a new prisoner showing up while the central mystery inches forward.
Nice.
You, or someone else, should always have a story like this to go with the concept art that is posted here.
You, or someone else, should always have a story like this to go with the concept art that is posted here.
There are a lot of very good U.K. shows that lasted only a season or two. I wish they would try it here.
A lot of shows don't get a second season. Fox cancelled 5 shows last night, Human Target, Breaking In, The Chicago Code, Lie to Me and Traffic Light. CBS and ABC will cancel as many as that and NBC will cancel even more shows by the end on next week. It's part of the business. Fox gets my respect if only because they try shows NBC, ABC and certainly CBS, would never try.
Fox didn't screw Locke and Key, they just ordered a pilot and didn't pick it up. At this point we haven't even seen the pilot yet so i'm not ready to go angry over it.
Human Target was lucky to get a second season at all.
For all the crap Fox gets from us, next season they will have Terra Nova, Alcatraz and Fringe. Most other channels will maybe have one show like that every season but three?
I understand why they get crap, I don't agree but I understand. I just think we need to put things into perspective.
Human Target was lucky to get a second season at all.
For all the crap Fox gets from us, next season they will have Terra Nova, Alcatraz and Fringe. Most other channels will maybe have one show like that every season but three?
I understand why they get crap, I don't agree but I understand. I just think we need to put things into perspective.
I don't know. I had a lot of problems with Civil War but I think the relationship between Maria Hill and the superhero community or the lack of one, contributed to the conflict.
Maybe she he should have her working at a fast food restaurant.
This sounds okay to me. I was never expecting Mad Men or Sopranos level quality. This may not be great but it sounds like it could be okay, maybe even good.
Sounds like the origin is intact, it's just that she has been in the "mans world" for at least a few years.
@rudecherub: Any Hal Jordan story doesn't need to involve any of that. It doesn't need to go into the green flame or even mention Alan Scott.
I think one of the issues with Wonder Woman is that there aren't a lot of of great GNs or story arcs about the character. That's not to say there are some good stories. The thing is every comic book writer has a Superman story and a Batman story. All the most popular writers would jump at the chance to do a story about those two. Every artist wants to draw those two, especially Batman.
Because of this you end up with a much greater library for Superman and Batman that people can look to for ideas. Wonder Woman has a tiny library compared to those two. There are any well known great stories like "Whatever happen to the Man of Tomorrow" or "DKR."
I think one of the issues with Wonder Woman is that there aren't a lot of of great GNs or story arcs about the character. That's not to say there are some good stories. The thing is every comic book writer has a Superman story and a Batman story. All the most popular writers would jump at the chance to do a story about those two. Every artist wants to draw those two, especially Batman.
Because of this you end up with a much greater library for Superman and Batman that people can look to for ideas. Wonder Woman has a tiny library compared to those two. There are any well known great stories like "Whatever happen to the Man of Tomorrow" or "DKR."
@elysdir: They are not doing a movie about Alan Scott, the Golden Age Green Lantern. They are doing one about Hal Jordan, who has a completely different origin.
He gets his ring from a dying alien and soon joins the Green Lantern Corps, an interstellar organization created and run by members of a very powerful ancient race. The ring itself is a piece of of very advanced technology.
He gets his ring from a dying alien and soon joins the Green Lantern Corps, an interstellar organization created and run by members of a very powerful ancient race. The ring itself is a piece of of very advanced technology.
@ChildBride: That is not the case. The Telegraph article sources a Daily Mail article.
Downton aired as 7 episodes in the UK(2 were 60 minutes long, the rest were 45 to 50 minutes long).
PBS is airing it as 4 episodes but each episode is a 1.5 hours long.
Downton aired as 7 episodes in the UK(2 were 60 minutes long, the rest were 45 to 50 minutes long).
PBS is airing it as 4 episodes but each episode is a 1.5 hours long.
@palaeoclimatemonkey:
MTV is remaking The Inbetweeners.
MTV is remaking The Inbetweeners.
There are different kinds of popularity. Doctor Who is known in the US but if one of the big 4 channels remade, most of their viewers wouldn't know it was a remake.
I think a lot of UK shows would do a lot better in the states if they weren't all aired on PBS and BBCAmerica.
I think a lot of UK shows would do a lot better in the states if they weren't all aired on PBS and BBCAmerica.
@Ken: The reasons for Caprica's cancellation are not unknown. The show had terrible ratings. No matter what role the channel itself had in the ratings going down doesn't help the fact that at the end of the day the show's ratings were in the 700,000s.
@CSX321: They are providing entertainment to someone, a whole lot of someones actually, it's just that you and I may not be a part of that group. The people who watch AI and Glee love that show as much as you and I like Fringe, there are just a lot more of them.
@claytron5000: I'm not saying there is no money in the internet, just that they do not make as much money on it. The ad rates aren't the same and there are fewer ads site like Hulu and Fox.com, NBC.com, etc. They make money in all those places but that does not compare to what they make with live ratings.
@claytron5000: "comic book heros, cartoons and fantasies" aren't just watched by geeks and nerds. They are the kind of movies pretty much everyone watches. I think it's wrong to compare sci-fi movies with sci-fi TV shows. The audience for Fringe and Iron man will include geeks and nerds but Iron man goes beyond geeks and nerds.
Also Hulu and DVR are well and good but they don't give the networks as much money as live TV or any money at all.
Also Hulu and DVR are well and good but they don't give the networks as much money as live TV or any money at all.
I think we need to rethink what a successful run is on TV. Not every show needs to be on TV for 7 years in order to be considered successful. If they can wrap up the story this season or, hopefully, get a 4th season to end things, I'm fine with that.
At the end of the day was it a good show? I understand that it tried to offer ideas we don't normally see on TV but did it have good characters, did it have good storytelling, did the characters have believable motivations, did the plot make sense, were the episode compelling?
This show, and to some extent Dollhouse, tried to present interesting issues but that alone does not make a show good. That alone doesn't make people want to come back week after week. TV shows, no matter how deep they want to be, still have to meet certain elements of storytelling.
Personally, I thought Caprica presented interesting issues but the show itself just wasn't done in way to keep me committed. Same goes for Dollhouse, the ideas were interesting but the actual stories ranged from okay to good, with one or two great episodes.
This show, and to some extent Dollhouse, tried to present interesting issues but that alone does not make a show good. That alone doesn't make people want to come back week after week. TV shows, no matter how deep they want to be, still have to meet certain elements of storytelling.
Personally, I thought Caprica presented interesting issues but the show itself just wasn't done in way to keep me committed. Same goes for Dollhouse, the ideas were interesting but the actual stories ranged from okay to good, with one or two great episodes.
