Not even close.
There are plenty of other open source Linux OSes for phones and tablets out there.
You're partially right and that was really part of my point, all they really did is push it further down the hole where it is never going to be a major platform and will just be for the geeks and "hackers" out there.
There are plenty of other open source Linux OSes for phones and tablets out there.
You're partially right and that was really part of my point, all they really did is push it further down the hole where it is never going to be a major platform and will just be for the geeks and "hackers" out there.
No you were right the first time.
What they're leaving out is the important part where HP says that tablets will only come in 2013 and that assumes that someone else has picked up webOS by that point and made something out of it.
What they're leaving out is the important part where HP says that tablets will only come in 2013 and that assumes that someone else has picked up webOS by that point and made something out of it.
Exactly.
They're still in the catch 22 they were in before. No one is going to make a device for it without a stronger ecosystem and no one is willing to work on strenghtening the ecosystem without a major hardware partner behind it.
You've got to think that part of the reason for this is that Samsung, Amazon, B&N, ect. didn't want to buy it. Maybe they'll give it a shot now that it is free but I don't see it. It would still be a lot of work without much potential reward.
They're still in the catch 22 they were in before. No one is going to make a device for it without a stronger ecosystem and no one is willing to work on strenghtening the ecosystem without a major hardware partner behind it.
You've got to think that part of the reason for this is that Samsung, Amazon, B&N, ect. didn't want to buy it. Maybe they'll give it a shot now that it is free but I don't see it. It would still be a lot of work without much potential reward.
Pretty much.
They're just putting the horse out to pasture instead of shooting it in the head.
They're just putting the horse out to pasture instead of shooting it in the head.
Uh yeah, it is still dead...
I don't really see it going open source as changing anything. Look at all of the open source OS out there and besides Android what do you really hear about? Even within Android those that take it to the extreme of the open source potential don't really get that far (Amazon did fine but that is Amazon, look at the Net10).
The basic problems still reamain. No dedicated hardware manufacturer and a poor ecosystem. The major players will still have no real upside in producing a webOS product and your ecosystem is never going to grow without that.
I imagine you'll see the usual open source stuff with it. Someone will port it to the HD2 (it always seems to be the HD2) pat themselves on the back, a few hardcore geeks out there will try it themselves, and the rest of the world largely ignores it.
I don't really see it going open source as changing anything. Look at all of the open source OS out there and besides Android what do you really hear about? Even within Android those that take it to the extreme of the open source potential don't really get that far (Amazon did fine but that is Amazon, look at the Net10).
The basic problems still reamain. No dedicated hardware manufacturer and a poor ecosystem. The major players will still have no real upside in producing a webOS product and your ecosystem is never going to grow without that.
I imagine you'll see the usual open source stuff with it. Someone will port it to the HD2 (it always seems to be the HD2) pat themselves on the back, a few hardcore geeks out there will try it themselves, and the rest of the world largely ignores it.
Thats not how I read it at all.
Just because brother and titan are next to each other doesn't make that the whole point of the sentance. Your reading doesn't even make any sense really.
If that is what he was trying to say it came across poorly. The whole sentace taken in context is saying that Android phones are large so he wouldn't want a new backpack for this Android device; the bigger, baby (since it is newer) brother of the Titan (not an Android phone).
Just because brother and titan are next to each other doesn't make that the whole point of the sentance. Your reading doesn't even make any sense really.
If that is what he was trying to say it came across poorly. The whole sentace taken in context is saying that Android phones are large so he wouldn't want a new backpack for this Android device; the bigger, baby (since it is newer) brother of the Titan (not an Android phone).
Uh the Titan is a windows phone so...
Hmmm... I don't know about this. Seems to me when I see people doing this I don't think "how convient that I can see where he is going and stay out of his way" I think "Jez asshole the rest of us are trying to get somewhere too."
Well that is the REAL rumor.
...and they just lost all of the revenue from the amazon market, which as you pointed out, is where they're really planning on getting the revenue from in the first place.
Not to mention that one of the reasons they branched so far down is so that they're not reliant on google for updates.
Not to mention that one of the reasons they branched so far down is so that they're not reliant on google for updates.
No, no, no.
I think you missed the point here Giz.
The story (even the one you linked to) isn't that Amazon is buying webOS, it is that they're buying Palm (or at least what is left of it). Major difference between the two. WebOS is a dead OS that no one wants (sorry but it is true) whereas with Palm they get the people and the tech which is what they want.
Amazon isn't going to switch to webOS. That is stupid. They're going to strip out the useful parts of it and keep making better android tablets. They're far to invested in Android. Really at this point I think you can make the argument that they're even out Androiding google. Their market place is the go to for companies that want the app support but don't want the whole google package.
I think you missed the point here Giz.
The story (even the one you linked to) isn't that Amazon is buying webOS, it is that they're buying Palm (or at least what is left of it). Major difference between the two. WebOS is a dead OS that no one wants (sorry but it is true) whereas with Palm they get the people and the tech which is what they want.
Amazon isn't going to switch to webOS. That is stupid. They're going to strip out the useful parts of it and keep making better android tablets. They're far to invested in Android. Really at this point I think you can make the argument that they're even out Androiding google. Their market place is the go to for companies that want the app support but don't want the whole google package.
I always liked this one too.
Nah his vest is just pushed out.
Now the bigger question is why is one using a walker and another crutches? Doesn't seem like the best biker gang to ride with...
Now the bigger question is why is one using a walker and another crutches? Doesn't seem like the best biker gang to ride with...
My favorite is the one of him with the puppy.
It's the softer side of the new Soviet Union...
I think it will be my new wallpaper.
It's the softer side of the new Soviet Union...
I think it will be my new wallpaper.
The more that I think about it I'm guess that is why he "stumbles" on print out. The pervious bit of conversation was probably them explaining that, yeah, they can get him the information but it is going to fill a small moving truck.
For the type of programs, data, and "print outs" they're probably talking about I don't see anything wrong with the terminology.
There is a major difference between a consumer grade program and programs at this level. I saw a lot of it at my old job. We booked visits months in advance because the data we needed truely needed to be "tasked." They're not just opening a file and printing it out, they're writing a query and sending the computer (or more accurately computers) to work on trying to pull the massive amount of data in the database into something useable.
There is a major difference between a consumer grade program and programs at this level. I saw a lot of it at my old job. We booked visits months in advance because the data we needed truely needed to be "tasked." They're not just opening a file and printing it out, they're writing a query and sending the computer (or more accurately computers) to work on trying to pull the massive amount of data in the database into something useable.
I was waiting for the Amazon tablet as well until I started hearing the rumors about what they did with it.
Still, while it may not be for you or I Amazon is going to sell the shit out of them.
Still, while it may not be for you or I Amazon is going to sell the shit out of them.
I agree 100%.
I'm still shocked that WebOS is in the news at all. I got one of the fire sale ones and sold it shortly thereafter because the OS was a joke.
I like some of the ideas, don't get me wrong, just once it was put together as a whole it turned into a mess.
I'm still shocked that WebOS is in the news at all. I got one of the fire sale ones and sold it shortly thereafter because the OS was a joke.
I like some of the ideas, don't get me wrong, just once it was put together as a whole it turned into a mess.
No, no they shouldn't.
Just like with Samsung and all of the other supposed "suitors" for webOS it doesn't make any sense.
Why would Amazon, who now has an entire Anroid App store of their own, switch to a failed OS? Well they wouldn't. Partially I think you're misunderstanding what they're trying to do with their android tablet. Like the Grid10 they're only using the "android kernal" for it. That way they do retain all of the control that they need. They don't need to worry about what google does update wise because they're going to be running their own completely seperate system off the side of it.
At this point the only thing that WebOS is good for is being chopped up and sold off peicemeal. Amazon might have some interest in buying a patent off of it, or hiring one of the designers, no question about that but it ends there.
Just like with Samsung and all of the other supposed "suitors" for webOS it doesn't make any sense.
Why would Amazon, who now has an entire Anroid App store of their own, switch to a failed OS? Well they wouldn't. Partially I think you're misunderstanding what they're trying to do with their android tablet. Like the Grid10 they're only using the "android kernal" for it. That way they do retain all of the control that they need. They don't need to worry about what google does update wise because they're going to be running their own completely seperate system off the side of it.
At this point the only thing that WebOS is good for is being chopped up and sold off peicemeal. Amazon might have some interest in buying a patent off of it, or hiring one of the designers, no question about that but it ends there.
