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Oh my stars. So many trolls at Gawker now. So many.

I feel like this is the battle of Helm's Deep and we're all just watching helplessly as the giant hordes of Uruk-hai start stomping closer and closer...

(I also apparently don't have permission to comment on this site now...? I...? What?)

#sinkingfeeling
#redesign
#observationdeck

The comments on the Greece article were particularly lovely. I'm dreading the day when the trolls are unleashed on io9. #observationdeck

Dear god, I just went into the Women's Rallies article. Spamming the comments with pictures of aborted fetuses. Well done Denton. Well fucking done. #observationdeck

I was JUST ragging about that on Crosstalk.

We are fucked, folks. Does Denton know how to fiddle, because that place is burning. #observationdeck

Yeah, I just can't figure out where AJ thinks this is going. I understand him wanting to put his stamp on things, but when he took over Deadspin it basically became the same 12 commenters bouncing inside jokes off of one another.

I'd like to think that the subject matter alone around here should keep most of the true cretins away from our beloved O-deck. I will however, take up my broadsword and join you on the wall if needs be. #observationdeck

Not only the trolls, but the comments are a jumbled mess. The live version doesn't nest the reply into the threads, and the featured is just chaotic. Are they going to put some order into this so we can have discussion with a logical thread? #observationdeck

We few, we happy few, we band of niners;
For he to-day that sheds his blood with me
Shall be a niner; be he ne'er so vile,
This day shall gentle his condition:
And commenters offline now a-bed
Shall think themselves accursed they were not here,
And hold their manhoods cheap whiles any speaks
That fought with us upon Gawkerapocalypse Day.
#observationdeck

Edited by Chip Overclock at 04/28/12 5:41 PM

HENRY V, Kenneth Branagh, 1989 #observationdeck

Part of me wants to believe that we can keep our little corner of the world the way it is, with our group keeping it civil and interesting. We have better mods here for one thing...and better commentors in general. But I am afraid they will get in, like roaches. After the changes can the mods still move and banish?
Aside from that it's just a mess. You can't follow threads, can't tell where replies are, and this whole "moved to a new discussion" thing.. WTF is with that!?

#observationdeck

Such a mess.

Edited by NaraDance at 04/28/12 5:52 PM

The "moved to a new discussion" thing is one of those things that sounded good on paper.

If you started a thread and don't like one of the replies, you can dismiss it which kicks it out into the general discussion for the post (or its own comment in a forum). But then you have a comment with no context out there adding to the confusion of the general discussion.

Edited by Ghost_in_the_Machine at 04/28/12 6:14 PM

I didn't see the fetuses at first until I clicked live discussions. Sigh. I can't wait until Adrian C. writes a recursive post there about the new commenting system and figuring out a way to blame the blatant trolling on Reddit.
Where do I sign up for Helmsdeep duty? My bow arm is decent.

#justaneensybitbitter
#stillworriedforio9

And that person is still posting. Under the starred system that would have:

1. Most likely never have been approved from pink status.
2. And if they had, they would've been banhammered long ago.

I honestly cannot believe that the powers that be did not see this coming. #observationdeck

I haven't been near it since the first day of the new system.

I have a question though - apart from the dog's breakfast of featured comments / limbo comments most of the issues seem to be coming from the burner accounts. But will they have burner accounts on io9? Will they work on all sites? Seems damn stupid to me if they did - what 'juicy gossip' is there on io9? What top secret tips that require a burner account?

Edited by Too.Tired.To.Sleep at 04/28/12 7:11 PM

So basically it keeps getting worse, eh?

I still can't figure out how that system is supposed to be better. What are the benefits? I can't see any from where I'm sitting, and reading the posts about the shiny new system didn't enlighten me at all.

I really like it here. This is one of very few places where reading the comments doesn't make me hate humanity and I don't want that to go away. #observationdeck

Well said. (I did imagine Billy Zane in "Tombstone" not Kenneth Branaugh though. #observationdeck

Nice, and I was just talking about "Tombstone" today(granted I'm always talking about it) #observationdeck

Other than Pulp Fiction, I'd say it's maybe the best movie of the mid-nineties. #observationdeck

I say "Johnny Ringo" in a crazed way, and "I'm your Huckleberry" at least once a day. #observationdeck

I just went into Gawker after a couple of days and, wow, that commenting system is a mess. I'm dreading the moment it comes to io9. #observationdeck

Yeah I love how you can quote that movie to just about anybody and they'll get it. My personal favorite is, "Why Ike! What an ugly thing to say." followed by " Let's have a spelling contest." #observationdeck

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OK folks, here's one lectroids tale of woe with regards to the new login system.

I went back and forth with Gawker Tech Support (motto: "Our users are our beta testers") all day long till they gave up and said they were bumping it up the chain. Cleared my cache about 50 times, etc, etc, etc.... I read here where somebody couldn't connect on firefox so downloaded chrome and it worked ok. I had been trying it on win7/ie9 (home) and xp/ie8 (work), so I downloaded firefox at work, logged in to my account, logged in with the twittter account I created solely to log into io9 and it seems to have worked. My account is now linked. had to clear my cache/cookies/history yet again on the work and home computers but it works from a random computer at the hospital, the phone (blackberry), the iPad and both the usual computers.

Don't ask me why this works but give it a try. Use a brand new browser, log into your account, immediately link it to your social network account of choice, clear the cache on your browser of choice, pray to whatever gods you feel are appropriate and maybe you will retain your account. I make you no guarantees, but it worked for me.

#converting
#redesign

Well guys, it was fun while it lasted...

#sigh
#redesign
#fuckingdenton
#observationdeck

Getting closer...... #observationdeck

Gawker and it's tech team have such a SHORT memory span. Don't they remember when they got HACKED? Now they want us to give them our Twitter, Facebook or Google info? I like to be anonymous, I do not feel they need that information from me and they haven't fucked earned that trust back to do it.

Absolute fucking assholes. I am just so sick. This is my favorite place in the world and very soon I won't be able to come here or even comment. I am BESIDES MYSELF. #observationdeck

So I guess this will be second(or third) mass gawker migration to other sites.....I hope it doesn't happen. #observationdeck

Is it really so unfathomable to Denton (and countless other people in charge of other sites) that maybe people don't want every single thing they do on the internet connected to every single other thing?

Meh.

I mean, for me this is just an annoyance. I don't go out of my way to keep various internet things seperate, I just choose not to connect them when the option is there. But I know for some people it's a huge thing. And why the hell should I have to create a dummy account somewhere just to maintain this account I've had for years if I don't want to connect it to an existing one?

Edited by Ydnam at 03/12/12 5:45 PM

I haven't gotten this yet.

And don't leave Eldritch! We need you *evil voice*. #observationdeck

Let's see... Facebook's lack of privacy, Google's consolidated privacy agreement, and Gawker's security breach... great way to get us to stick around.

I hope people here are savvy enough to NOT use their personal FB/Google credentials. It's annoying to have to create more accounts, but better safe than sorry. #observationdeck

Too.Tired.To.Sleep@gmail.com was taken.

Bastards. I hope they fall asleep.
#observationdeck

I swear if they make me change my name, I will RAGE AGAINST THE DYING LIGHT!! My real name isn't as awesome of Geesejuggler! #observationdeck

How about fuck right off. You're right, especially after the mess they caused with the last password leak, I do not want to associate accounts that house personal information with any Gawker Media site.

So are they getting rid of User names then? Time to create a fake Twitter account for Ursus_Veritas, I suppose. I'd say abandon ship, but I'm flaky and have the weakest of wills, so I'll probably stick around and loudly complain. Between this and the changes he discussed in SXSW, sheesh, it is like the redesign lashback never happened for him, isn't it? #observationdeck

Some bastard already has edificecomplex@gmail.com too. #observationdeck

I do not intend to associate my io9 comments with my facebook account because, family. They do not know how weird I am and I'd like them not to unfriend me. They already look at me sideways like I'm the embarrassing black sheep... this does not need fuel.

Maybe twitter? No family on there. #observationdeck

Or at least her parts... #observationdeck

May the lead fall from their pencils and their rulers be chipped and shattered. #observationdeck

Ugh. How many more ways can Denton express that he does not care about the people who come to the sites? #observationdeck

Oh, fuck you, Denton. I already have a gmail address that's behind the scenes allocated to this account, but I don't want to have to make it official. Fuck that noise. Fuck you.

How are you going to get your celebs coming in and making random juicy comments now, you prat? #observationdeck

Amazingly EdificeComplex was not taken on twitter. I snatched that up I tell you what. #observationdeck

Really. When's the next time that we'll hear that John Hamm used to comment on Deadspin? #observationdeck

SO many expletives just leaped from my mouth at the same time, I don't think they were intelligible.

See you guys on the other side, then?

#observationdeck
#TapsPlayinginDistance

That's not how these things work. This will hand off authentication to FB/Twitter/Google.

So, basically, when you'd log in, the site says "Hey Google, is this person Eldritch?" and Google says yay or nay.

From a security standpoint it's better, because Gawker has nothing to leak. #observationdeck

Personally, I'd rather Gawker had my low-security, gets-into-nothing-but-Gawker password than my Twitter/FB/Google name. But that's a) how my security is set up and b) what I'm shy about. I *really* don't like tying my identities together. #observationdeck

Once the change hits, I'll pop into the chatroom from time to time to say hi. c ya!

plur

Edited by imaginary friend at 03/12/12 9:53 PM

Shit. Well, if I leave the Pugnax out, CanisSnores works for Twitter...

I sense another mass Diaspora from Gawker sites.

#observationdeck

Wait wait wait... whaaaatt??
I'd heard about a new commenting system, but this is what they meant?
Fuck. That. Honestly. #observationdeck

Yeah, I don't like it either, but from a purely security standpoint it is better.

Hopefully they grandfather us crotchety old commenters in. #observationdeck

Denton likely wants the security and ad-tracking handed over to someone like FB or Google. So no... grandfathers are likely on the chopping block. Would be my bet on it, anyway. #observationdeck

"Fuck that noise. Fuck you."

I thought we were friends!

Side Note: There's a 100% chance "Noise" will be taken on every service. Yay... #observationdeck

Whelp, just created my fake Twitter, @Ursus_io9. You'll never take my anonymity, Denton!

#observationdeck
#shakesfist

I had just come back a couple of weeks ago and it looks like I am gone again. Such a nice community here. #observationdeck

oh fuck.
I don't want to login with either one of those.
So if they kick me.. Well... I don't know.

AFAIK, they don't need mods on the new system anyway...

Well. Annalee will fight for the odeck. Let's just hope there is something worthy of preserving after the clusterfuck.

#sadAlaeth

edit : Don't you dare disappear Eldritch!

Edited by kalaeth at 03/13/12 5:24 AM

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Posting is getting harder again isn't it? It almost feels like in the era of the redesign - I am especially annoyed by the fact that like then, all replies are hidden by defualt... If there is a way to change that, I can't find it in my Profile editing.
If that is going to take a little longer again, some kind of public announcement lie back in the Era of the Redesign might be helpfull.

#redesign
#corrections

Back to the major flaws of the redesign era, aren't we?

Like back then,all replies to the comments are hidden by default, and you have to click on every single comment to open them. I vaguley remember there being a button to change that, but it's not in my "edit profile" section. If that won't change by itself, it's time for a general anouncement like we didn't have it since the days of the Grand Redesign.

#redesign

#corrections

I had assumed this site was created through intelligent design... -Natural selection does not seem to be in play.

I any sane world this site would havvvkjiuhie.......

zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz...

-----no one expects the Spanish Inquisition.
(oh crap)

#redesign

Hey look! a minor Gawker redesign seems to have frelled the comments again. What a shock.

Do they test anthing around here before rolling it out or do they just consider the whole community the beta testers?

#redesign

is it just me or is the preview image above the gallery so cut that you can't see much for most of the images? (e.g. I only see the moons in the image with the sword and the dragon before I expand it)

#redesign

Annalee Newitz moved this comment from Her sword was deadlier than her dragon (see Community Policy)

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What the... anyone else got some mysterious message notifications from months ago?

#wtf? #redesign

NOTE: something is wrong with the push to Facebook feed. Viewing it in my BlackBerry application, there is a big gap between the title and where the article starts. A real eyesore. Appears to be the case for all the gawker site feeds, so not sure where the bug lies. #redesign

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