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    Image of D969nke D969nke
    04/03/09

    In reply to Daddy Issues Are The Final Frontier!
    I saw one thing that left me scratching my head, when they stepped onto Mars it was a 70s street shoe, not a spacesuit boot. That combined with the no comms lag and normal gravity would make me thing that the finale is still going on in his head vs. reality.
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    04/03/09

    @D969nke: Another possible alternative, for people who didn't like the literal ending.


    Or, maybe, y'know... just a final laugh and bit of fun and reference -- gene hunt on Mars, and Gene Hunt on Mars.

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    Image of Andrew Liptak Andrew Liptak
    04/03/09

    In reply to Daddy Issues Are The Final Frontier!
    Honestly, the father/son issues really felt far short - Keitel certainly played a father-like figure, but then why even include Sam's 'real father' in the show? Those two storylines were so disjointed, it just didn't make sense to me. Even more so, it's a horrible clicque that should have been avoided in the writer's room.


    Sam going over to the Dark side, in retrospect, is there, but it's another thing that really should have been more visible - I was thrilled, in the pilot, to see him contemplate killing the kid - not that he was going to kill a child, but because the creators seemed to really drop the storyline after that point. His father, in the finale, said that Sam was a monster, or something like that, but we never really see that in the show. Another problem - show, don't tell.


    Keitel really wasn't that much of a weak link in the show - I think he did the character pretty well. I was less happy with Annie Norris throughout the entire show - she paled in comparison to Annie Cartwright, and her promotion at the end of the show was a weak footnote with nothing behind it.


    Finally that stupid space ship. The writers seemed to have absolutely no clue about interstellar travel. First, you don't take the whole ship down to the surface - this is why we have a lander - it worked very well with Apollo, and any martian mission will likely take along the same components. There was no time lag between transmissions (I know this is nitpicky, but it's bothering me). Plus, they were walking around as if there was gravity. A lot of these things could have been done easily.

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    04/03/09

    @Andrew Liptak: I think you mean "interplanetary" travel, as long as you're nitpicking science aspects.
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    Image of tvscifi.com tvscifi.com
    04/03/09

    In reply to Daddy Issues Are The Final Frontier!
    At first I loved the ending, because I couldn't for the life of me figure out how they would pull off a different ending than the British series. So I thought it was a pretty good twist. However, the more I thought about it, the more it falls apart.


    First, no one was every really in danger, no one was ever really saved. Sam didn't correct history, like in the British series. Sam didn't sacrifice his future to save his friends in the past.


    Only going 13 episodes I think this ending works, but if had gone on a few years I would have felt very cheated if everything turned out to be a dream. But that aside:


    Some of the characters had scenes that Sam didn't see. Remember that episode where Annie becomes partners with Ray for a day? Sam has no idea what her day is like, why are we seeing it if its only in his brain?


    Also, Annie saves Sam a couple of times, including in the finale. She is back at the police station piecing together clues, etc. Again Sam isn't there to experience it. Are we to believe Annie is another part of Sam's brain coming to rescue him?


    A much better way to end it would be to have the 2008 Sam wake up on the spaceship and have him do a stint in the future. He would be the socially backward misfit then. We could not only see how far we've come as a society, but how far we still have to go.

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    Image of mekki mekki
    04/03/09

    @tvscifi.com: Sam didn't correct history in the BBC version either. How do you correct history from a coma induced dream? UK Sam's world wasn't any more real than the chemically induced dream of the US Sam's.
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    Image of Charlie Jane Anders Charlie Jane Anders
    04/03/09

    @mekki: There were many, many hints that he was changing history. At one point, he's being tortured in his hospital bed -- until he gets the guy who's torturing him committed in 1973. Then the torture stops, because the guy's no longer there.
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    Image of Evil Tortie's Mom: R.O.A.C.H. Evil Tortie's Mom: R.O.A.C.H.
    04/03/09

    @Charlie Jane Anders: He changed history only insofar as he changed it in his own mind. Was the guy really torturing him, or was it (more likely) all part of his coma fantasy.


    And UK Sam's last second wasn't an eternity -- he "died in the past" after a few years.


    US Sam's fantasy at least was based on actual people who behaved much the same.


    And the scenes that weren't from his POV were partly computer generated to fill in the gaps; that's how he/we knew what Annie did by herself, since his feelings about Annie were obviously a big part of it. Or else his subconscious came up with that, too, since he really likes her and wanted to dream about her.


    The Brit version got caught up in not wanting to be an SF show after they'd used the tropes and mechanisms. They tried to have it both ways. The American version proudly owned its SF-ness.

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    Image of FrankN.Stein FrankN.Stein
    04/03/09

    In reply to Daddy Issues Are The Final Frontier!
    hm... living in europe, i only saw the bbc series. this ending sounds... stupid really. just... why?

    why did they have to bring in astonauts and mars? is it really so that americans don't get metaphors? does a show called "life on mars" necessarily have to be about mars at some point - even if it's in an ending forcefully stapled to the show?
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    Image of mekki mekki
    04/03/09

    @FrankN.Stein: We get metaphors fine enough, thank you. This is just different solution for the mystery of why he is in 1973 so that it wouldn't completely copy the UK version. Something just a tad different to make this version, it's own unique vision.
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    Image of amadyce amadyce
    04/03/09

    @mekki: Just because it's different doesn't mean its any good. Very heavy-handed, anvil dropping, punnilicious. Oh the show's called Life on Mars so it's obviously about people searching for life on mars. Way to be subtle.
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    04/03/09

    @mekki: Don't sweat it, Mekki -- the same people would be bitching if it ended just like the UK version and would be accusing Americans of being uncreative.
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    Image of Evil Tortie's Mom: R.O.A.C.H. Evil Tortie's Mom: R.O.A.C.H.
    04/03/09

    @amadyce: Everything in Europe is 1000% better than everything in the US, right?
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    Image of Taed Taed
    04/03/09

    In reply to Daddy Issues Are The Final Frontier!
    Where was Lisa Bonet? She was listed in the opening credits as a "Special Guest Star", but I didn't see her. Did they trick me into expecting to see her in 2008/9, or did she have some minor role that I missed? (Or has she been listed in every opening credits and I've missed that as well?)


    It was nice to hear "Life is a Rock" again; I've always liked that song, though I prefer the Tracey Ullman version. It fit in very well with the episode (and entire series).

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    Image of PSac PSac
    04/03/09

    @Taed: They showed her during the montage when Sam flashed back rapidly through scenes from the series. I agree, it was a really quick flash to be listed as special guest star. Maybe they gave her a long-on-screen credit to further swerve the ending by having people think she'd play a bigger part (like after he woke up.)
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    Image of Evil Tortie's Mom: R.O.A.C.H. Evil Tortie's Mom: R.O.A.C.H.
    04/03/09

    @PSac: Probably both a fakeout and something in her contract that if she appeared at all, she got a credit.
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    Image of Wubbytoes Wubbytoes
    04/02/09

    In reply to Daddy Issues Are The Final Frontier!
    I've never watched the original show, so I don't know how that one ended, but I was pleasantly surprised by the finale. I wish the show would continue as a show about the first people on Mars. We need a Mars show on TV.
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    Image of Evil Tortie's Mom: R.O.A.C.H. Evil Tortie's Mom: R.O.A.C.H.
    04/02/09

    @Wubbytoes: I would totally watch that.
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    Image of gods-n-clods gods-n-clods
    04/02/09

    In reply to Daddy Issues Are The Final Frontier!
    I felt the ending only cheated the audience out of witnessing the romance between Sam and No-Nuts.

    I'll miss you most of all, No-Nuts.

    (That's a mean name, and I'll stop using it now.)
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    Image of Evil Tortie's Mom: R.O.A.C.H. Evil Tortie's Mom: R.O.A.C.H.
    04/02/09

    @gods-n-clods: Yeah, it would have been good to see Sam and Annie's romance develop. They had a nice energy between them.


    But the cancellation cheated us out of that, not the ending. Season 2 would have had cop Sam dating No More No Nuts, for sure.

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    Image of gods-n-clods gods-n-clods
    04/02/09

    @Evil Tortie's Mom: I object to the ending because it destroyed the romance; it never existed and didn't happen. That was both the ending -and- the cancellation's fault. Sam coulda stayed in the seventies for longer! Died in stasis, in love with Annie! Permanent coma!

    Something!

    (Not that I'm all into romance and stuff. Anyway.)
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    Image of Evil Tortie's Mom: R.O.A.C.H. Evil Tortie's Mom: R.O.A.C.H.
    04/02/09

    @gods-n-clods: Dude, don't say never!


    Didn't you see the looks they were giving each other in the capsule? They are totally gonna be the first people to Do It on Mars.


    One small step indeed.

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    Image of Andrew Liptak Andrew Liptak
    04/02/09

    In reply to Daddy Issues Are The Final Frontier!
    I was really let down by the finale - it felt like a major cop-out, not to mention that the writers got a whole lot of details wrong when it comes to space travel.


    My review is here: [jeditrilobite.wordpress.com]

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    Image of EdgesRazor EdgesRazor
    04/02/09

    In reply to Daddy Issues Are The Final Frontier!
    I think this ending seemed a bit forced. They may have had the concept planned from day 1, but the writing for the last 10 minutes seemed like it was rushed. Especially the Obama thing and the 'Gene hunt'. *Groan*


    I'm disappointed by the ending, but not as much as I would have been had I invested 5-6 years in the show. They were starting to develop the characters so well - especially his relationship with Annie and then poof, it never was. It's the Bobby Ewing Ending.


    I'd rather they left it at the kiss, or him hanging up the phone, or even him hugging Hunt. Any of those would have been better. Then again, we'd all be complaining that they ripped off The Sopranos. :)

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    04/02/09

    @EdgesRazor: And whining about never knowing what really happened.
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    Image of Elizabeth Weinbloom Elizabeth Weinbloom
    04/02/09

    In reply to Daddy Issues Are The Final Frontier!
    Oh, and! They changed the name of Sam's mom to Rose. Which would make her... Rose Tyler. The original Sam Tyler's namesake! That HAD to have been on purpose, right? <3
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    Image of twophrasebark twophrasebark
    04/02/09

    In reply to Daddy Issues Are The Final Frontier!
    Well, we still haven't seen the ending for Ashes to Ashes, the continuation of the original.


    Here's my take: I think the reason Sam and Alex both end up with Gene Hunt in various time periods is that Hunt is in a coma as well (in the present). Not sure why people keep ending up experiencing Hunt's life with him, but that's my theory.


    It's Gene whose coma life people are gravitating towards. Maybe he's in a nearby hospital room. I dunno.

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    04/02/09

    @twophrasebark: I don't think Gene really exists -- wouldn't Sam have found out about him when he woke up? And if he didn't check on it, wasn't he stupid?
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    Image of twophrasebark twophrasebark
    04/03/09

    @Evil Tortie's Mom:


    Well, my TV explanation is that Gene's real first name was Meredith. Or Evelyn.

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    04/03/09

    @twophrasebark: Right, what about Ray and Chris then? And how many DI Hunts can there have been in Manchester in the 70's? Or in all of England ever?
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    04/03/09








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    04/03/09

    @Evil Tortie's Mom:


    You do realize this is a show where people travel back in time while being a coma?

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    04/03/09

    @twophrasebark: You do realize that this is a show where you're trying to argue that Gene's a real person in a coma too? :)
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    04/03/09

    @Evil Tortie's Mom:


    :p


    What do I get if I'm right?

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    04/02/09

    In reply to Daddy Issues Are The Final Frontier!
    Also, they had to change the ending some from the UK version since everyone knew it.


    Also also, Sam is and always has been the main character/focus of the US version as opposed to Gene being ditto in the UK one.

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    Image of Evil Tortie's Mom: R.O.A.C.H. Evil Tortie's Mom: R.O.A.C.H.
    04/02/09

    In reply to Daddy Issues Are The Final Frontier!
    I liked it.


    I know some people are whining about the "all a dream" part, but face it -- so was the original!


    This one actually made more sense -- the details were so correct b/c the computer was keeping track of trivia, and not Sam's brain. Plus all the little weirdnesses are wrapped up neatly.


    I thought they were gonna go with returning to 2008 to find Annie was Sam's boss or something -- which they kinda faked out with the 2010 ending.


    This is better than if they'd done a cliffhanger at Sam deciding to stay and never gotten to do anything with it.


    The details of the 2035 sequence are very nice when you watch them the second time through and can pay attention.


    I give them the cheat of talking to Earth real-time b/c you can't bore the audience waiting for minutes round-trip as they chat with home.


    Life On Mars, indeed.

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    Image of Elizabeth Weinbloom Elizabeth Weinbloom
    04/02/09

    @Evil Tortie's Mom: I agree across the board. Even the point where it made more logical sense than the British ending. Definitely not more emotional sense, not by a long shot, but I give it the logic points.
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    04/02/09

    @Evil Tortie's Mom: I agree that it made much more sense than the British version whose ending ticked me off to no end. Nothing was ever explained and the reason for that is that the creators did not want to make a sci-fi show in the first place. They just wanted to do a 70's cop show and this is how they were able to do it. So, the time travel element was simply a gimmick. And I can't stand that sort of lazy writing, oh, let's do this twist for the sake of being neat. Yeah, I am talking to you, M. Night Shyamalan and Charlie Kaufman.
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    04/02/09

    @mekki: Why they didn't just man up and make a cop show set in the 70's is dumb, instead of going for the Shyamalan-esque thing.


    Also, the British ending made me retroactively think less of/dislike Sam. This one makes me still like him.

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    Image of Joe Hackett Joe Hackett
    04/02/09

    In reply to Daddy Issues Are The Final Frontier!
    I think I'm just bothered by how Sam's life never really meant anything (particularly how he just gave up on his 08 life completely at the end there. Maya hadn't even been brought up when he spent the first few episodes agonizing over her...) and you're suddenly just introduced to the same characters, but with a history you don't know or understand at all [but they instantly recognize eachother]....it's just so fucking weird and unnatural.


    They wanted 7 years of this. A 4 minute wrap up of "it was all a virtual reality!" would've been fucking insane.


    But one concise season? I dunno, for some reason that seems more...okay. Still though, I can't help but think anything the show was trying to say rings completely hollow now that it turns out none of it had any consequence at all. Was it really their plan all along to have the ending be something that completely renders everythin that came before it totally inconsequential? Like, this was all about Sam reconciling with his dad, who was really his boss anyways? I mean, we don't even know why Sam was so fucking mad at Gene that he tripped through time trying to fix his relationship, yet still could go on a space mission with him to Mars anyways no problem.


    Like, seriously, I feel like there's gotta be a whole 'nother show explaining why the fuck I should care about the characters at the end of this show!


    When he wakes up and his whole experience almost totally had zero fucking effect on him and he instantly remembered, "oh yea, I'm on a space flight to mars, duh! Silly me." how am I supposed to care?!


    What would've been better is that, the final final scene is everything was a fakeout and it's him still in a coma and it turns out he's still trapped in his mind. That way, you get your explanation for everything, consequences are in tact in some way, but he's forever doomed to loop through time. Something less hopeful and doesn't wrap it all up in a cheesy bow.


    Also, why the hell would there be a father/son mission to Mars where the father is in his 60s? I would think there would be way better candidates for this incredibly important mission. Who woulda thunk? HARVEY KEITEL IN SPACE. Lol. I give the ending points for pure balls, but seriously, what the fuck guys.

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    04/03/09

    the last episode was the first i watched, so i didn't catch any of the build up to this ending. that said, it did feel like the very end was a useless appendage to the rest of the show. @Joe Hackett:
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    04/03/09

    @cam: If you'd watched the show, you'd have seen what all the details led to.
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    Image of Elizabeth Weinbloom Elizabeth Weinbloom
    04/02/09

    In reply to Daddy Issues Are The Final Frontier!
    I watched the finale solely because Charlie said it was gonna be real different than the original. Well, it sure was. It was also much better than the last episodes I watched, at the beginning of the run.


    Although I'm disappointed to see that they never did learn to use the 70s music effectively. What's with all the "look at those cavemen go!" lyric quotes, and then never actually playing "Life on Mars"??


    It looks like they would've actually explored the Hyde thing more if the show had lasted, which would have been nice - that was underused in the British.

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    04/02/09

    @Elizabeth Weinbloom: I'm glad they didn't play "Life on Mars" (or "Rocket Man"), that would have been too obvious.
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    04/02/09

    @Evil Tortie's Mom: Obvious?? It's the name of the damn show! It's kinda required...


    Another music thought: I was glad they avoided the Over The Rainbow temptation. Yes, the British used that wonderful ukulele recording and the whole sequence was beautiful, but really, rather ham-fisted. The American dispensed with the Wizard of Oz stuff with a quickie Scarecrow reference. So A+ there.

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    04/02/09

    @Elizabeth Weinbloom: Exactly. Playing it would have been too on the nose and ham-fisted. It ended with people on Mars, looking for life on Mars, we didn't need the song. It would have been even worse than someone singing "Over the Rainbow".


    The Brit version using "Over the Rainbow" was kind of cliche, actually; after ER used the Hawaiian version in that big ep where the guy died, it's sort of ruined for anything else TV-drama-ending-wise.

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    04/02/09

    @Evil Tortie's Mom: Nah, playing "Over the Rainbow" is on the nose and ham-fisted, but not playing "Life on Mars" leaves a weird gap. Like a Chekhov's gun or something. Especially if you're going to go around quoting its lyrics right and left.


    Don't remember it from ER. Stopped watching ER for like ten years in there. Half-watching the finale at the moment, though. It's no House. Keep thinking about LoM instead. Which I guess is why I'm commenting the hell out of this recap while watching ER. Whatevs.

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    04/02/09

    @Elizabeth Weinbloom: Maybe you don't remember (I stopped watching too), but a huge percentage of the world TV-watching public (and hopefully the world TV-making public) associates it with that -- they'd have been better off with the original version.


    I see we will have to agree to disagree. They did play "Life on Mars" at the beginning of the show, so the Bowie references/lyrics at the end were quite sufficient whereas playing it again would be both redundant and too "GET IT? GET IT, HUH? SEE, AREN'T WE CLEVER?"


    (is there more Clooney in the finale, or was his bit a couple weeks ago it? that's all I really care about)

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    04/02/09

    @Evil Tortie's Mom: Fair enough.


    No Clooney. :( Pretty uneventful. Though they showed the exterior of the hospital for the first time at the very end, that was cool.

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    04/02/09

    @Elizabeth Weinbloom: No Clooney, no care. I wonder what they used as the exterior since all their exterior sets are just bits and pieces on the backlot (which I remember vividly from a tour when I actually saw GC from a short distance, squee).


    but I digress... um, um, that visit was before Clooney was Batman! He was Batman once. Batman is an io9 topic!

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    @Evil Tortie's Mom: Pretty sure it was some other place CGI'd.


    JUST LIKE EXTERIORS OF SPACESHIPS! Relevance ftw!

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    @Elizabeth Weinbloom: damn we're good.
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