Also, the original was dedicated to the resistance fighters of the past, presentm and future. The opening sequence was pivotal, laying out where the miniseries' inspiration and soul was, especially poignant for US television during the Reagan era. #v
This seems like a completed inverted version of the original. The first miniseries opens with Mike Donovan and his partner Tony filming a Salvadoran guerrilla leader, and eventually sees him heroically single-handedly shoot down a chopper (a US-supplied chopper I might add). This scene is later referenced at the end of the miniseries with Juliet doing the same thing to a Visitor shuttle attacking the human resistance camp in the mountains.
All the heroes came from non-traditional origins -- a petty thief, a medical student, a scientist, etc. The FBI, police force, etc.. were all cooperating with the fascist Visitors, because as one police officer noted, nothing ever changes as the law remains the law, whoever it serves.
The kid is right... this *is* Independence Day. :)
Here's the thing that bothered me from the start. If I was the head of some alien group with a plan to take over an inhabited world by deceiving them into trusting my kind, I would *not* want to give a first impression that causes mayhem and destruction. Rather, I'd land the big motherships in remote areas, and come to the populated areas with smaller transportation devices.
Also, hellooo, back some 60 0r 70 years it was possible for two dozen massive spaceships to approach the planet without being noticed by the various nation's military facilities. Today, that's very unlikely.
But, no matter. I'll buy into anything this series throws at me, just because Morena Baccarin is in it. #v
Meh, I liked the original miniseries opening better with the car/helicopter chase through the Central American jungle.
And will they ever get rid of the bratty teenager trope? Seriously?
Otherwise this doesn't look too bad. My main concern is that it will become too much of a soap opera focusing on characters I don't care about at all. There really needs to be some interesting characters in this show, and the only ones I can think of are Anna, and maybe Lisa and Ryan. It's not coincidence that they're all Visitors.
The original TV series had a gun-ho reporter, several scientists, a mercenary, a bratty teenager, a street thug, etc...and of course the Visitors. From what I can tell, this series has: a reporter, a priest, an FBI agent, a bratty teenager, a psychologist and the Visitors. To me, the first cast sounds more interesting than the second.
I'm cautiously optimistic about this show. I really want it too succeed for the sake of science fiction television, but the fact that it's a remake/reimagining and has a rather unspectacular cast of characters doesn't make me very excited. #v
It looks like a cross between Independance Day and the glowy covenant ships from Halo. Im not saying thats a bad thing. But a V remake at all has had me worried. This hasnt stopped me worrying!! Damn.
Well at least we could all be saved by Street Hawk....Meh*
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@GreyHammer: I said it looks like those things because of the way its shot over the city. It may as well be shot for shot wth ID4. The glowy design is purely that...design. It DOES look like the ship from Halo, but I also know that ID4's ideas and Halo's ideas all came off the back of old Sci-Fi films/TV. Ironically ID4 probably got its ideas from the original V series. But if im looking at this in a like for like basis, purley on the way its shot. It really does look like ID4.2. Im sorry it does. But I know what your saying about original (and often older) ideas. #v
@colonwq: Its a funny one that! ID4 probably got most of its 'citywide ship' ideas from the original V program. They do a remake and make it look more like ID4, the film that was copying the V remakes original roots!!
I see a quantum physics problem creeping up!! Im off before mainstream Sci-fi implodes in on itself. Yikes!! #v
@colonwq: Which doesn't make this any less of a rip-off.
Being a remake by definition means they're taking material from another source. The BSG remake took its source material and went in a new direction with it. V doesn't look like it is doing anything really new or original. #v
@Ghost_in_the_Machine: you are judging the whole show off 8 minutes of footage? also they even poke fun at it with the news interview "dude this is soooo independance day" "which was a ripoff..." etc.
there is nothing 'new' under the sun. hopefully the show will be a good watch for us nerds. #v
@GreyHammer: To be honest. Theres a lot of Sci-Fi out there that look like a hell of a lot of other Sci-Fi out there. And the cycle of sci-fi continues. To be honest, it does have an ID4 feel. But guess what? ID4 rocked socks. So anthing similar is good in my books. 8 minutes is not enough for a pre-judgemnent call. I'll explore this and give it a go. Im being incredibly tolerable to this considering the original show holds very important childhood memories. I hope it kicks ass!
But I think (unfortunatly) everyone thinks they are directors nowdays or producers. Everyone has come down hard on Avatar and it only has a 3 minute trailer. When did we (joe public) become so cynical before the call??? Cripes!!
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@GreyHammer: I'm not judging the whole show by just this 8 minutes. Nothing that I have heard or read about this show suggests anything to get excited about.
And of course I'll still be watching and hoping that I'm wrong. #v
I'm pretty sure they didn't actually advertise Lost (ABC) on Chuck (NBC, and a different producer). They did give a geek-salute to it at one point during one of Chuck's flashes, but that's along the same vein as when they had the sandworm, or the Slave Leia costume, or the Tron poster, or pretty much any other property that their target audience is likely to have on their DVD shelf. #lost
On one hand you have hideous monsters trying to convert you to their dark way of life and on the other hand you have to live in world with no jobs, texting, or news about Sarah Palin. I think I'll pick the BSG ending and live on the island as opposed to Wisteria Lane and its demonic crew. #lost
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My first thought though, is that someone really needs to hook up an xbox to that spaceship! Imagine the gameplay on that thing. :D #v
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All the heroes came from non-traditional origins -- a petty thief, a medical student, a scientist, etc. The FBI, police force, etc.. were all cooperating with the fascist Visitors, because as one police officer noted, nothing ever changes as the law remains the law, whoever it serves.
I think I'm going to be sick. #v
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Here's the thing that bothered me from the start. If I was the head of some alien group with a plan to take over an inhabited world by deceiving them into trusting my kind, I would *not* want to give a first impression that causes mayhem and destruction. Rather, I'd land the big motherships in remote areas, and come to the populated areas with smaller transportation devices.
Also, hellooo, back some 60 0r 70 years it was possible for two dozen massive spaceships to approach the planet without being noticed by the various nation's military facilities. Today, that's very unlikely.
But, no matter. I'll buy into anything this series throws at me, just because Morena Baccarin is in it. #v
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And will they ever get rid of the bratty teenager trope? Seriously?
Otherwise this doesn't look too bad. My main concern is that it will become too much of a soap opera focusing on characters I don't care about at all. There really needs to be some interesting characters in this show, and the only ones I can think of are Anna, and maybe Lisa and Ryan. It's not coincidence that they're all Visitors.
The original TV series had a gun-ho reporter, several scientists, a mercenary, a bratty teenager, a street thug, etc...and of course the Visitors. From what I can tell, this series has: a reporter, a priest, an FBI agent, a bratty teenager, a psychologist and the Visitors. To me, the first cast sounds more interesting than the second.
I'm cautiously optimistic about this show. I really want it too succeed for the sake of science fiction television, but the fact that it's a remake/reimagining and has a rather unspectacular cast of characters doesn't make me very excited. #v
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Well at least we could all be saved by Street Hawk....Meh*
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I see a quantum physics problem creeping up!! Im off before mainstream Sci-fi implodes in on itself. Yikes!! #v
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Being a remake by definition means they're taking material from another source. The BSG remake took its source material and went in a new direction with it. V doesn't look like it is doing anything really new or original. #v
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there is nothing 'new' under the sun. hopefully the show will be a good watch for us nerds. #v
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But I think (unfortunatly) everyone thinks they are directors nowdays or producers. Everyone has come down hard on Avatar and it only has a 3 minute trailer. When did we (joe public) become so cynical before the call??? Cripes!!
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And of course I'll still be watching and hoping that I'm wrong. #v
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