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    Pirate Agricultures of the California Coast

    A Map of Future Food Riot Conditions

    Kibera's "Instant Farm" System Is the Future of Urban Agriculture

    Farmers Put 220 Acres Under Glass to Create Vast Artificial Environment

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    Image of Jeremy Tapsell Jeremy Tapsell
    11/06/09

    In reply to Pirate Agricultures of the California Coast
    i don't know if anyone is interested, but in related news i read about this group who map where free food grows in my city of Auckland. I know foraging is a growing trend here, and the map is 'growing' every day (There is even a facebook group!)

    [www.nzherald.co.nz]

    edit: 'growing' was not originally intended as a pun, but after I posted I saw the relation. I guess my sub-concious wanted to express itself. :D
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    Image of Jeremy Tapsell Jeremy Tapsell
    11/05/09

    In reply to Pirate Agricultures of the California Coast
    so.. hang on.. what.. is this true? in the US you HAVE to pay a corporation a percenatgeof your profit if you growand sell your own vege???????????????? thats messed up #pharmaceuticals
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    Image of Klebert L. Hall Klebert L. Hall
    11/06/09

    @Jeremy Tapsell:

    Nope.

    Annalee's just being fanciful / prophetic.
    -Kle. #pharmaceuticals
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    Image of Jeremy Tapsell Jeremy Tapsell
    11/06/09

    @Klebert L. Hall:
    oh yes.. i see now. duh. #pharmaceuticals
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    Image of CmdrHunt (aka Clarence Colton) CmdrHunt (aka Clarence Colton)
    11/05/09

    In reply to Pirate Agricultures of the California Coast
    Annalee, did ya have to say Mendo? It's not really a secret but still, the produce out of there is quality and I would like to keep it that way.

    Don't necessarily want to inadvertently shut down our favorite producers. Support local growers! #pharmaceuticals
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    Image of Annalee Newitz Annalee Newitz
    11/05/09

    @CmdrHunt (aka Clarence Colton): Yay! Support my homies up in Humboldt too! #pharmaceuticals
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    Image of Invisible Circus Invisible Circus
    11/05/09

    In reply to Pirate Agricultures of the California Coast
    the photos are gorgeous and not because its stoner porn...seriously... #pharmaceuticals
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    Image of acrobatic rabbit acrobatic rabbit
    11/05/09

    @Invisible Circus: they're just so deep, man. #pharmaceuticals
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    Image of Dr Emilio Lizardo Dr Emilio Lizardo
    11/05/09

    In reply to Pirate Agricultures of the California Coast
    Monsanto has a patent on pot now? Boy, the government really will bend the rules for mega-corps. #pharmaceuticals
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    Image of Annalee Newitz Annalee Newitz
    11/05/09

    @Dr Emilio Lizardo: Monsanto pot totally sucks, man. #pharmaceuticals
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    Image of designguybrown designguybrown
    11/05/09

    In reply to Pirate Agricultures of the California Coast
    I envision a time when you can import the genetic makeup of your favorite food plant from an open-source free database, use your splice&germinate kit, and grow your own custom plants. They may not be as high-end this-resistant and that-proof as Monsanto, but it will be a locavores delight (though Monsanto and the GIAA (genetic food industry association of america) just may sue you for downloading piles of organisms for which they may have a copyright case. Which may of course lead to an iFood distribution website where you can get boring mainstream organisms for $0.99. Which may then become a monopoly which can't play properly in your non-iFood splice&germinate player). All is but an engineered organism just waiting to be reverse-engineered and repurposed. #pharmaceuticals
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    Image of crashedpc - Haifisch crashedpc - Haifisch
    11/05/09

    @designguybrown: "Man, I remember when Boritos used to be Indie, man... now they've sold out and even Albertson's sells them now." #pharmaceuticals
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    Image of J_Frank_Parnell J_Frank_Parnell
    11/05/09

    @designguybrown: Screw the GIAA. I'm going to torrent all of my food. #pharmaceuticals
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    Image of cadrina cadrina
    11/05/09

    In reply to Pirate Agricultures of the California Coast
    Drug dealers sell something that there are buyers and is forbidden by the goverment. Like in the times where alcohol was forbidden and that was what the criminals sold.
    So is easy to see a future where we buy food from the black market whille drugs are sold legally
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    Image of Annalee Newitz Annalee Newitz
    11/05/09

    @cadrina: I could use some black market cherries right now. You know, the ones that don't have ladybug genes spliced in to make them extra red? #pharmaceuticals
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    Image of cadrina cadrina
    11/05/09

    @Annalee Newitz: ah but imagine how cute your babies would be when they are born red with litle black spots thanks to the "mutant making" food
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    Image of crashfrog001 crashfrog001
    11/05/09

    In reply to Pirate Agricultures of the California Coast
    If you want to use Monsanto's corn, which includes genetic engineering that they pioneered and developed, why shouldn't you pay their fees? Are they supposed to do all that work for free?

    Is there any reason to believe that seed companies - who will produce a run of seeds from any varietal they have in stock for next season's planting - will somehow not exist? Is there any reason to believe that Monsanto will somehow crush Syngenta and Pioneer and Dow and all the rest, and somehow be the only place you can buy seeds at all?
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    Image of AmishJohn AmishJohn
    11/05/09

    @crashfrog001: Because Montsanto will sue your ass if you don't use their product, but bees pollenate your crops with your neighbor's pollen? #pharmaceuticals
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    Image of Anekanta - killed by a cacodemon Anekanta - killed by a cacodemon
    11/05/09

    @crashfrog001: Monsanto makes no bones about wanting to control the entire food growing industry. They put patents on naturally occurring crops, just so they can stop people from growing them and force them to use Monsanto products.

    They're genuinely evil. #pharmaceuticals
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    Image of ManchuCandidate ManchuCandidate
    11/05/09

    In reply to Pirate Agricultures of the California Coast
    Big Agra has the last laugh as they supply the corn for the Doritos. #pharmaceuticals
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    Image of crashedpc - Haifisch crashedpc - Haifisch
    11/05/09

    @ManchuCandidate: I grow my own Doritos! I call them Boritos. #pharmaceuticals
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    Image of LittleDragon LittleDragon
    11/05/09

    @crashedpc - Haifisch: Not Crashoritos? I would eat Crashoritos. They sound cool.
    Do your Boritos have beans and cheese in them? #pharmaceuticals
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    Image of crashedpc - Haifisch crashedpc - Haifisch
    11/05/09

    @LittleDragon: Since I grow my own beans and cheese I have to call them "neans" and "sleese". #pharmaceuticals
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    Image of BadUncle BadUncle
    11/05/09

    @crashedpc - Haifisch: Nothing like heirloom junkfood. #pharmaceuticals
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    Image of LittleDragon LittleDragon
    11/05/09

    @crashedpc - Haifisch: on second thought hold the neans and sleese. #pharmaceuticals
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    Image of Annalee Newitz Annalee Newitz
    11/05/09

    @LittleDragon: I recently ate a dish at a vegan restaurant called "mac and yease" because they used yeast instead of cheese. Tasty dish. Poorly titled. #pharmaceuticals
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    Image of CmdrHunt (aka Clarence Colton) CmdrHunt (aka Clarence Colton)
    11/05/09

    @LittleDragon: Mac and sleese. Mmm, delish. #pharmaceuticals
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    Image of bonniegrrl bonniegrrl
    01/18/09

    In reply to A Map of Future Food Riot Conditions
    Kinda puts things in perspective when asking your pals to fill up their Prius with bio-diesel, doesn't it?
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    Image of ♠ Final ♠ ♠ Final ♠
    01/16/09

    In reply to A Map of Future Food Riot Conditions
    Hopefully, since gas in still under 2 dollars a gallon some corn can get diverted to areas that actually NEED it.
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    Image of Partially Bigoted Zealots Partially Bigoted Zealots
    01/16/09

    @Final:


    If we can all just embrace the idea that ethanol is a dumb idea; we might be able to do something useful.


    A whole new take on "all this has happened before, all this will happen again."


    There was an article in The Economist a few months back about how with the world's financial collapse and Africa's insular banking system -- the continent could gain in prominence. The caveat being the corruption of the governments and the political turmoil. It's hard to see that scenario playing out when places like Kenya are caught in a twisted loop.

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    Image of ♠ Final ♠ ♠ Final ♠
    01/16/09

    @Fishypu: Ethanol and Commodities speculation sent the price of corn through the roof this summer. Corn is a bigger staple then wheat in certain parts of Africa and the high prices/ lack of US exporting caused a shortage in food going to food insecure nations. Now that the price of oil has come back down below that of E85 I'm just hoping some of that corn can be diverted to people that need it to live.


    @Partially Bigoted Zealots: Ethnol isn't a dumb idea when oil is $150 a barrel and can be had for half that price. It's not a true solution but Gasoline needs competition to keep it honest. It's going to be a few more years before extended range EVs are cheap enough for low end buyers and the infrastructure to make fuel cells or natural gas viable is no where in sight. Hopefully Speculation in the commodities market won't be such an issue if the

    Gramm-Leach-Bliley Act and the Commodity Futures Modernization Act get tweaked so the market can respond to supply and demand and not to myopic gambles.


    Africa has so many issues it's damn near impossible to know where to start. As far as the food shortage goes Kenya needs to stop it's whole sale fish export and take care it's own for awhile.

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    Image of Pope John Peeps II Pope John Peeps II
    01/17/09

    @Final: Ethanol is an incredibly stupid, wasteful and inefficient way to get fuel, whenan incredibly superior system already exists:


    [news.cnet.com]

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    Image of Evil Tortie's Mom: R.O.A.C.H. Evil Tortie's Mom: R.O.A.C.H.
    01/16/09

    In reply to A Map of Future Food Riot Conditions
    I'm confused. The highlighted part talks about drought.
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    Image of Annalee Newitz Annalee Newitz
    01/16/09

    @Evil Tortie's Mom: Sorry bout that. Fixed now. It's a combination of drought and a season delayed by violence.
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