Now Lauren, that's not fair. From the headline I thought Moore would be doing an adaptation of Journey to the West. You just dashed the hopes of 20 million weird Chinese people and we know where you live.#alanmoore
@Lauren Davis: I've seen excerpts. How much of it did they use? It's a 100 chapter novel. Then there's the fanfic written in the 17th Century that has been accepted as canon, it had time travel, implanted memories and gender switching.
Oh well, Creation of the Gods is still ripe for gwailo translation. "Jade Weasel Attacks Rainbow Ox!!!" #alanmoore
@LeopoldNestor: Well, I don't know the guy personally but in my experience comments that make an industry outsider sound like an asshole are ten times more likely to be published than comments that lend credibility to his position.
@Arryma: Might have something to do with the natural formation of groups, and the suspicion that tends to be directed towards the ones outside of it.
Considering that he also likes to challenge the comic book medium, I'd say that hostility would be expected.
@Smeagol92055: I wouldn't say every one (I personally preferred Watchmen as a film over it as a comic, in terms of story. There, I said it), but yes, he has been screwed over on multiple occasions by the Big Two and the Hollywood establishment.
Slight crazy aside, he actually seems like a very nice and personable guy. Just very dedicated to his sense of ethics, which is something I admire.
@Smeagol92055: not ALL of them are abominations, and he acts the same with LXG than he does with V. V is arguably a bad adaptation, and I agree with him that it's not loyal to the spirit of the book, but that doesn't make it a bad movie, and hardly puts it on LXG level.
@Aidan_: Having ideals is one thing, but ethics is also how you treat and relate to other human beings. If you believe in your work and hate to see it altered, that's one thing, and it can be a mature and strong conviction. But if you treat other people like shit, it means that you yourself are insecure, immature and have never fully developed into an adult. Still being a child, you have to lash out at the world to bolster your own sense of security.
I'm not trying to put it in a way that's offensive, but it seems to me that's the divide between people who "admire" Moore and people who think he acts like a tool. I think he acts like a tool.
@LeopoldNestor: he has antisocial personality disorder. many writers are like that eccentric people who prefer characters they create to actual people. he is someone who wants complete control and he doesnt have it with other people. so when his characters are taken from him he gets angry over another loss of said control. etc.
@GreyHammer: Antisocial personality disorder doesn't actually make you an angry, antisocial recluse. It tends to be the diagnosis given to utterly amoral serial killers, the kind who laugh about torturing their victims for fun and then hit on their interrogators in the same sentence. I don't think anyone has accused Moore of going quite that far.
Me, I'm just waiting until 50 years from now, when academics at the same conference will all start claiming he was gay, or actually 5 different writers.
@0kami: Exactly. While I found V very entertaining, I have to admit that the political message was changed, what would give AM grounds to be rightfully pissed #alanmoore
First, forgive me for being ignorant. I love Alan Moore or for some reason I've always shied away from Promethea. I don't think I'll get the $100 addition I am thinking of picking up the first paperback. But before I do, can someone tell me if the story is completed? Is Moore finished with it? Is there any kind of story resolution? I'm wary of getting involved with another unresolved comic. Any help is much appreciated!
@theizz: Yes, the comic is finished, and there is a definite resolution. In fact, the ending of this comic is also the end of the ABC Comics universe. It's a beautiful ending for a beautiful series.
Promethea is an ideal candidate for the Absolute line, since it's so dense and re-readable, but with no extra features I can't believe they're charging 100$ for it.
I was sort of interested in it until you said there was a full issue of Moore info-dumping on me about magic. I like his work, but not so much that I'll love an infodump when I hate it done by anyone else.
@Rocketknight: Alan Moore said something at the time like "There are 400 comic books out there that aren't didactic treatises; isn't there room on the shelf for one that is?"
It might be didactic, and it certainly is an info-dump, but I found it never less that fascinating and compelling. Just because Moore uses the series to give a number of lectures on his views of magic and religion doesn't mean that he neglects characterization and plot.
@franklinshepard: Info-dumps are boring. Either write an essay detailing theories/opinions or allow people to enjoy a good story.
Some people may think of me as an idiot for it but I feel that I need to have it be one or the other, not both. If it does both, I will lose interest in the theories/opinions and focus on the story, which leads to skipped pages.
In this case and by the way you describe it, it seems like a lot of time is spent with lectures, meaning I will feel cheated out of my money as I skip page after page of what I will inevitably find to be an old man's rambling so I can read about the characters.
Don't get me wrong. I can read essays and enjoy them; I frequently read articles about sci-fi and fantasy worldbuilding as a way of studying to become a writer. But the second you inject a fictional narrative into it, my tongue flops out and I begin drooling all over myself as my braincells quiet down for some escapism.
@Rocketknight: Really? You can't digest information in a fictional setting? Did you skip over the middle chapters of 1984?
You could skip over the lectures, but the characters and the plot are IN the lectures. You'd be missing the point of the comic. If that sounds like something you'd hate, maybe you're right. Me, I love art that has something to say.
Coulthart is a genius. His depiction of R'lyeh is probably the most alienating, bizarre version I've ever seen--therefore, the most true to Lovecraft's vision of the place.
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Oh well, Creation of the Gods is still ripe for gwailo translation. "Jade Weasel Attacks Rainbow Ox!!!" #alanmoore
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"Throw the Pooh pooh" or "Throw the Feces" sung to the tune of Ride of the Valkyries as done by Elmer Fudd. #alanmoore
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If we could clean him up, who knows what he would be capable of creating !??!
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Considering that he also likes to challenge the comic book medium, I'd say that hostility would be expected.
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Slight crazy aside, he actually seems like a very nice and personable guy. Just very dedicated to his sense of ethics, which is something I admire.
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I'm not trying to put it in a way that's offensive, but it seems to me that's the divide between people who "admire" Moore and people who think he acts like a tool. I think he acts like a tool.
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Me, I'm just waiting until 50 years from now, when academics at the same conference will all start claiming he was gay, or actually 5 different writers.
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It might be didactic, and it certainly is an info-dump, but I found it never less that fascinating and compelling. Just because Moore uses the series to give a number of lectures on his views of magic and religion doesn't mean that he neglects characterization and plot.
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Some people may think of me as an idiot for it but I feel that I need to have it be one or the other, not both. If it does both, I will lose interest in the theories/opinions and focus on the story, which leads to skipped pages.
In this case and by the way you describe it, it seems like a lot of time is spent with lectures, meaning I will feel cheated out of my money as I skip page after page of what I will inevitably find to be an old man's rambling so I can read about the characters.
Don't get me wrong. I can read essays and enjoy them; I frequently read articles about sci-fi and fantasy worldbuilding as a way of studying to become a writer. But the second you inject a fictional narrative into it, my tongue flops out and I begin drooling all over myself as my braincells quiet down for some escapism.
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You could skip over the lectures, but the characters and the plot are IN the lectures. You'd be missing the point of the comic. If that sounds like something you'd hate, maybe you're right. Me, I love art that has something to say.
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