@NerD: Blattella: i don't know. i never really liked paranoia agent all that much and i have yet to actually sit through all of tokyo godfathers due to lack of interest.miyazaki, in my experience, is the way to get adults into anime just as much as children. the stories may not be as complex, or as needless convoluted, but the visuals are stunning. which is the primary thing adults, again in my experience, need to realize, that animation can be more than color filled bubbles arranged in the shape of a talking head on screen. adults, i've found, find this easier to handle in a story that's meant to take place in a fantasy world and only over time gradually open themselves up to the possibility of an animated feature that takes place in the real world.
@Dash_Stryker: No offense, but I've never understood the comparison between Miyazaki and Disney. Is it because both have children it their movies? Maybe, I missed something, but when then did Disney ever make a movie that had a hero on the verge of becoming a demon like in Princess Mononoke? When did Disney ever make an animated film in which a monk led a hunting party against a demi-god? When did Disney have a man turn into a pig because of his experiences with the horrors of war? Miyazaki's films are both more complex and better animated than Disney.
@Bill-Lee: I will give you complex but better animated I would have to give a no on. at any point I would say the statement is more of a generality then a direct one to one comparison seeing as both men have made great strides in the world of animation whether you like walt disney or not you have to respect that. also i said if.
@Dash_Stryker: I know you said "if" in your particular statement but you aren't the only person to use the names Disney and Miyazaki in the same sentence, that the comparison is made at all is what bothers me. I mean both Picasso and Leonardo da Vinci made great strides in painting but nobody ever compares them.
I used to love Anime in the olden days (heh) of the 80s and early 90s but I feel like lately the stuff that comes out is massed produced drivel with nowhere near the quality of writing and richness of some of the old works.
Satoshi Kon is an exception and I'm grateful he's around and making films. Definitely looking forward to this one.
@Motoki: Then you seem to be ignoring some of the great series that are appearing nowadays, most notably the manga xxxHolic by CLAMP. It might not be animation, but it certainly has a lot of heart, depth, and richness to it. A modern classic, in my opinion.
@themixingitsession: Admittedly I have not read much manga in years, though I've heard there are some good ones out now and may have to do some digging.
In terms of Anime though, I have not seen anything that I was crazy about outside of Satoshi Kon in years.
Miyazaki is cute and sentimental and at least not total drivel, but I like a little more to my stories.
The original Ghost in the Shell film from the 90s was quite good in my opinion, but the recent iterations of it have just been bleh for me.
@Motoki: Well on the Anime front, I have to agree with you: there's not that many interesting or good ones going around. Although the same can be said about any other genre or type of entertainment. You have to dig around a pile of crap before you can find the real gems.
The GITS movie: I have nothing but love for it. Funny enough, I've never seen Akira, which everyone seems to favor.
@themixingitsession: If you want some suggestions for anime films and TV series that are worth watching, check out the website Spectrum Nexus. [www.thespectrum.net] They have some wonderful and in depth reviews.
you just gave me the scariest thought, and i cannot remember the movies name. Recently there was a movie out, about a poor robot from a poor family, gone to me the king to save all the other poor robots from the recycling pile.
where did all the original robot creators go? did humanity get killed off? was this movie the ultimate end of the terminator franchise?
did the human soul that get recycled into the earth at the end of the stich-punk animated movie '9' create that cybertron of the poor versus articratic robot class war?
I pronounce Biku the winner of this thread. You win 3 internets that take double A batteries, but it cannot be hooked up to your TV. You are going to have to speak my manager about how to use the DVD in the microwave though.
@tetracycloide: you mean that robot movie, i could not fathom a title for, also caused the same reaction of the entire creative marketing team that produced it?
finally a doctor who that might be worth watching, the last one i enjoyed was the paul mcgann one shot they did back in the 90s. anyone know which production house is doing the animation? #doctorwho
@Tomb: R.O.A.C.H.: There was definitely an "excellent" in there too though. That kind of made me squee a little 'cause I miss me some of that. Every once in awhile my girlfriend makes me say "excellent" in the Cyberleader voice, only she makes me say it so it sounds like "egg-salad." #doctorwho
I was considering trying my hand at constructing a 4th Doctor audio adventure using sound bites from the Tom Baker version of Hound of the Baskervilles and a few other sources, but this it going *way* overboard when it comes to fan productions. #doctorwho
It's things like this that make me overjoyed to be a fanboy. The uneasy collision of 70's British sci-fi with classic Japanese animation? Effing genius! I can't wait to see it completed.
(And I think they meant "Macross" more in style than content, kids.) #doctorwho
Love that "Out of the Eye" Cyberman shot in the second clip. The transition between fast/smooth to slow/ridged animations is a bit jarring, something that could definitely use a bit more smoothing. Using the voices from the TV show for the principle actors is a good idea, although when you hear the non-professionals (or at those thugs), it definitely reminds you this a fan work. Still, looks really interesting. The "stereotypical anime girl" is a good idea, but it remains to be seen if she'll work and how deep her character is. #doctorwho
@comics0026: That was a really nice transition. It shows a great deal of the exuberance of an amateur production, along with some of the flaws, but I would like to see it continued.
And anime Brigadier Aleister Lethbridge-Stewart equals pure win. #doctorwho
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then Satoshi Kon is the Hitchcock of anime.
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Miyazaki is a way to get children into Anime, Kon is how you keep the adults interested.
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I would recommend Paprika.
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Satoshi Kon is an exception and I'm grateful he's around and making films. Definitely looking forward to this one.
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In terms of Anime though, I have not seen anything that I was crazy about outside of Satoshi Kon in years.
Miyazaki is cute and sentimental and at least not total drivel, but I like a little more to my stories.
The original Ghost in the Shell film from the 90s was quite good in my opinion, but the recent iterations of it have just been bleh for me.
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The GITS movie: I have nothing but love for it. Funny enough, I've never seen Akira, which everyone seems to favor.
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where did all the original robot creators go? did humanity get killed off? was this movie the ultimate end of the terminator franchise?
did the human soul that get recycled into the earth at the end of the stich-punk animated movie '9' create that cybertron of the poor versus articratic robot class war?
why is there no bacon in the future?
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I pronounce Biku the winner of this thread. You win 3 internets that take double A batteries, but it cannot be hooked up to your TV. You are going to have to speak my manager about how to use the DVD in the microwave though.
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(And I think they meant "Macross" more in style than content, kids.) #doctorwho
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And anime Brigadier Aleister Lethbridge-Stewart equals pure win. #doctorwho
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