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    Johnny Depp Is Not In The Next Nolan Batman, Sorry

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    Image of jfpierce jfpierce
    09/22/09

    In reply to Johnny Depp Is Not In The Next Nolan Batman, Sorry
    I know very few people would agree with this, but if Nolan does a third Batman film, I think they should re-cast the Joker. Very few of Batman's villains fit the atmosphere Nolan has created, and he's sort of painted in a corner with killing two-face.
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    Paul_Is_Drunk promoted this comment jfpierce was starred jfpierce was unstarred
    Image of Paul_Is_Drunk Paul_Is_Drunk
    09/22/09

    @jfpierce: I'd like to see the Joker return in a Hannibal Lector kind of role. Something's happening that Batman must solve using Joker's assistance. There's already precedent for it in The Last Laugh & the recent Death of Batman.

    This way you could have him hide in the shadows & whatnot. It'd help my sense of immersion, at least. (Though, oddly, losing Katy Holmes wasn't a problem).
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    Image of micah1_8 micah1_8
    09/22/09

    @Paul_Is_Drunk: I've said it before, and I'll say it again... cast Mark Hamill as the joker--- he does the best Joker laugh ever, and with just a little makeup and creative lighting, he would look enough like Ledger to pull it off.
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    Evil Tortie's Mom: R.O.A.C.H. promoted this comment micah1_8 was starred micah1_8 was unstarred
    Image of Presidentpez Presidentpez
    09/22/09

    @jfpierce: I completely agree. I think Joseph Gordon Levitt might be the guy for the job.
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    ThisDudeRufus promoted this comment Presidentpez was starred Presidentpez was unstarred
    Image of Swearengen Swearengen
    09/22/09

    In reply to Johnny Depp Is Not In The Next Nolan Batman, Sorry
    Alfred, what's in the box? What's the the motherfucking box?
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    BlueBeard promoted this comment Swearengen was starred Swearengen was unstarred
    Image of BlueBeard BlueBeard
    09/24/09

    @Swearengen: Are you suggesting brad Pitt be Batman?
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    Image of micah1_8 micah1_8
    09/22/09

    In reply to Johnny Depp Is Not In The Next Nolan Batman, Sorry
    Depp as the Riddler? No thanks. As much as I like him, I don't think this would be the role for him.

    Some villains I'd like to see on screen:
    Clock King (Ralph Fiennes, anyone? He rocks the bowler like no other!)
    Bane (can you imagine a Nolan version of a drugged out, paralyzed Batman?)
    The Mad Hatter (Seriously, Tom Petty--I'm just sayin')
    Clayface (Bruce Campbell as a down-on-his-luck B-movie Actor---with a dash of CG which Hollywood thinks is beyond necessary in any movie these days)
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    Evil Tortie's Mom: R.O.A.C.H. promoted this comment micah1_8 was starred micah1_8 was unstarred
    Image of Super_fly Super_fly
    09/22/09

    In reply to Johnny Depp Is Not In The Next Nolan Batman, Sorry
    i keep sayin if you want the Riddler you have to cast Crispin Glover
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    J_Frank_Parnell promoted this comment Super_fly was starred Super_fly was unstarred
    Image of J_Frank_Parnell J_Frank_Parnell
    09/22/09

    @Super_fly: Good call, actually. He's a total freak and would add some nice insanity to the character.

    I also think Jeffrey Combs might make a good Riddler. The man is completely under-utilized in Hollywood.
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    Image of TheGreenRanger TheGreenRanger
    09/22/09

    @J_Frank_Parnell: He makes an excellent freak (glover), problem is, he's a freak in real life too. He caused tons of problems on the back to the future set, and they ended up just using his voice overs in the 2nd movie, for which he sued them over. The last thing i want is this guys ego ruining the batman franchise.
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    Edited by TheGreenRanger at 09/22/09 1:21 PM TheGreenRanger was starred TheGreenRanger was unstarred
    Image of Grey_Area Grey_Area
    09/22/09

    In reply to Johnny Depp Is Not In The Next Nolan Batman, Sorry
    But Cher is still in as Catwoman, right?
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    Image of dredgman dredgman
    09/22/09

    In reply to Johnny Depp Is Not In The Next Nolan Batman, Sorry
    I'm so glad this didn't happen. I'm really sick of Johnny Depp. Ever since Pirates, he's been that character in every movie.
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    Kpibca promoted this comment dredgman was starred dredgman was unstarred
    Image of TheGreenRanger TheGreenRanger
    09/22/09

    @dredgman: which movie has he been in that he portrarys a character using the jack sparrow model?
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    Image of disatess disatess
    09/22/09

    In reply to Johnny Depp Is Not In The Next Nolan Batman, Sorry
    We don`t another rehash of the riddler ,we need a new villain .

    Batman has so many .

    want to add a touch of horror add clayface , where he could look like anyone else . and still have mystery for batman to contend with.
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    Image of TheGreat&PowerfulTurtle TheGreat&PowerfulTurtle
    09/22/09

    @disatess:

    The Riddler has a wealth of as-yet-untapped potential, if done right. The confessional Zodiac Killer of a sort, obsessed with outsmarting his own honest tendencies.

    Lord knows if they can improve on Romero & Nicholson's Joker with Heath, they can certainly improve on Gorshin & Carrey's goofball takes.
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    Image of OW-Holmes:Bringer of Fear OW-Holmes:Bringer of Fear
    09/22/09

    @disatess: I'm still holding out for Calendar Man or Tally Man.
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    Image of CodenameV CodenameV
    09/22/09

    In reply to Johnny Depp Is Not In The Next Nolan Batman, Sorry
    oh god no

    As for Jim Carrey...he's a good actor but that just isn't what the Riddler is; he was playing him as a knockoff Joker.

    Once again, the Bruce Timm animated Riddler essentially got it right: the point is that he's an intellect that equals Batman, but unlike Batman, he's just in it for the attention.

    Batman would willingly let people think he committed the Twoface murders, a self-less act ruining his reputation for the greater good.

    The Joker has Narcissistic Personality Disorder....he NEEDS to taunt the police, like Bundy or the Zodiac killer.

    Just as the Joker represents Chaos, the Riddler represents Order taken to a ridiculous extreme: while the Joker is Batman's polar opposite, the Riddler is eerily too similar to Batman for comfort; he has all of Batman's mental powers...granted he doesn't have the martial arts skills or money/access to technology, but he doesn't need to. The point is that Batman's "superpower" is an incredible capability for self-discipline and his intellect; he can drive himself to do anything and, applying his intellect, solve any problem.

    what I think "Batman 3" should be about is...just as "Batman Begins" set up the Joker at the end by hinting about "escalations", the Joker himself in "the Dark Knight" kind of hints at the rise of the Riddler: "You know what I've noticed? People don't panic when things go 'according to plan', even if the plan is horrible..."

    I imagine that line playing over the cold open of the first batman 3 trailer;

    the idea is that after the Joker's reign of terror....people would be disturbingly willing to let the Riddler basically take over the city and restore "Order". because the Riddler isn't a maniac like the joker: how can society appreciate his genius if he destroys society? How can people appreciate his intelligence if he blows up all the libraries?

    So the way to play the Riddler is that basically he's a sort of vigilante that's as crazy as Rorschach but as brilliant as Batman....and this will lead to a disturbing debate....similar to the Two-Face one....about how Batman is or is not like the "villains"

    Two-Face already played the revenge/vigilante angle. Riddler has to be slightly different; the point being that he doesn't use physical violence but is like a warped Sherlock Holmes, tricking his enemies into killing each other off.
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    BlueBeard promoted this comment CodenameV was starred CodenameV was unstarred
    Image of BlueBeard BlueBeard
    09/22/09

    @CodenameV: You know what? I was against another Riddler rehash, thinking it would be better to avoid all the common and already used bat-villains, just like I was against yet another Joker movie (and wow was I wrong on that one, but I still think two-face sucks)

    That essay totally sold me on using the Riddler, crafting a unique and logical progression of the story. I just hope there's room for a Catwoman in Nolan's batman that can be morally ambiguous, yet available to give him support now that he's on the wrong side of the law. And look hot in a skintight suit, high heeled boots and a whip.
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    Image of TheGreat&PowerfulTurtle TheGreat&PowerfulTurtle
    09/22/09

    @CodenameV: An interesting take. My question is, how would this manifest exactly?

    The other question I have is what villain would balance this Riddler out, the way Scarecrow's low level work balanced out Ra's Al Ghul larger plan or Two Face representing the Joker's final act of chaos.
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    Image of Cory Gross Cory Gross
    09/22/09

    @BlueBeard: My own thought for the next Batman movie would be to have both Catwoman and Robin as "crimefighters" who live in the Gotham slums. Catwoman could be a madam protecting her own and Robin a homeless or broken-home kid going back to the character's Robin Hood inspiration. It would contrast interestingly against Batman's wealth, privilege and ability to hide out in his mansion on the hill... Y'know, the rich white guy who thinks he has the solution to everybody's problems. Catwoman and Robin would have to deal with all that crime and poverty without being able to escape it.

    But man, CodenameV NAILED Riddler.
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    Cory Gross was starred Cory Gross was unstarred
    Image of TheGreenRanger TheGreenRanger
    09/22/09

    @CodenameV: interesting
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    TheGreenRanger was starred TheGreenRanger was unstarred
    Image of Harlot Harlot
    09/22/09

    In reply to Johnny Depp Is Not In The Next Nolan Batman, Sorry
    David. Tennant. I know people hate that suggestion, but I think it would be brilliant.
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    Harlot was starred Harlot was unstarred
    Image of Davio Davio
    09/22/09

    @Harlot: Agreed.
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    Evil Tortie's Mom: R.O.A.C.H. promoted this comment Davio was starred Davio was unstarred
    Image of CoffinDodger (If the typos crap. Blame my keyboard) CoffinDodger (If the typos crap. Blame my keyboard)
    09/22/09

    In reply to Johnny Depp Is Not In The Next Nolan Batman, Sorry
    I always thought Jim Carrey played an awesome Riddler. But the film was just all wrong. Shame really, I wish another film star could have been sacraficed for that role then Jim Carrey would be up for this. I think Carrey as Nolans Riddler would have been something else!!! Besides....what IS going on with this bloody Bats film. Its on, its off, its being filmed on the moon!!! And why did SIR Michael Caine get in trouble. If theres nothing to talk about, theres nothing to get in trouble for. Oh...theres no film being made yet! Thanks Michael we already knew that due to the lack of a Batman 3 film, and now your going to get in trouble. Silly.
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    Image of HyMinded HyMinded
    09/22/09

    @CoffinDodger (If the typos crap. Blame my keyboard): I agree. Carrey actually was the one flicker of decent in that crap film.
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    CoffinDodger (If the typos crap. Blame my keyboard) promoted this comment Edited by HyMinded at 09/22/09 7:56 AM HyMinded was starred HyMinded was unstarred
    Image of CoffinDodger (If the typos crap. Blame my keyboard) CoffinDodger (If the typos crap. Blame my keyboard)
    09/22/09

    @HyMinded: I think if he brought a bit of the character from the Number 23, a bit darker but still insane. That would probably be awesome and very fitting for a Nolan film.
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    CoffinDodger (If the typos crap. Blame my keyboard) was starred CoffinDodger (If the typos crap. Blame my keyboard) was unstarred
    Image of iameleveneight iameleveneight
    09/22/09

    @CoffinDodger (If the typos crap. Blame my keyboard): As much as I like Jim Carrey, especially back then, I always wanted Paul Reubens to be Riddler, but I guess that would end up being too much of him just being PeeWee in green spandex.
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    CoffinDodger (If the typos crap. Blame my keyboard) promoted this comment iameleveneight was starred iameleveneight was unstarred
    Image of CoffinDodger (If the typos crap. Blame my keyboard) CoffinDodger (If the typos crap. Blame my keyboard)
    09/22/09

    @iameleveneight: I suppose with a sandex costume. If Reubens starts masturbating in public (which he's very fond of doing), its easy to wipe down!!!
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    Edited by CoffinDodger (If the typos crap. Blame my keyboard) at 09/22/09 8:27 AM CoffinDodger (If the typos crap. Blame my keyboard) was starred CoffinDodger (If the typos crap. Blame my keyboard) was unstarred
    Image of aquajaws aquajaws
    09/22/09

    @CoffinDodger (If the typos crap. Blame my keyboard): I've always thought Carey did a great job as the Riddler in Batman: Forever. He nailed the role that was written for him doing what he does best. He's also got some decent acting chops at his disposal if he ever gets the chance to use it. He's just been typecast as the general crazy-comedy person for so long that people fail to see it. He did a great job in Man On The Moon, and Truman Show was a bit more than his Ace Ventura style of crazy but still some decent acting on his part. I think it would be a good, if not at least interesting, choice to see him do a darker Riddler in a Nolan-style Batman where he brings in his darker side like in 23 a bit more.
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    CoffinDodger (If the typos crap. Blame my keyboard) promoted this comment aquajaws was starred aquajaws was unstarred
    Image of edicius edicius
    09/22/09

    In reply to Johnny Depp Is Not In The Next Nolan Batman, Sorry
    Thank god. I'm so friggin' sick of Johnny Depp and his overly-quirky characters.
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    goldfarb promoted this comment edicius was starred edicius was unstarred
    Image of goldfarb goldfarb
    09/22/09

    @edicius: +1...I like him but enough already
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    Image of Rumtum Rumtum
    09/22/09

    In reply to Johnny Depp Is Not In The Next Nolan Batman, Sorry
    I heard Charlie Sheen as the Penguin
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    CmdrHunt (aka Clarence Colton) promoted this comment Rumtum was starred Rumtum was unstarred
    Image of cityfolk232 cityfolk232
    09/22/09

    @Rumtum: Yep, and Donny Osmond as Clayface.
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    Image of Rumtum Rumtum
    09/22/09

    @cityfolk232: And Paul Rueben as Scarface (with Kelsey Grammer as Dummy).
    Good times, good times.
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    OW-Holmes--Upset with Polling promoted this comment Rumtum was starred Rumtum was unstarred
    Image of ggodo, the man from R.O.A.C.H. ggodo, the man from R.O.A.C.H.
    09/22/09

    @Rumtum: Isn't this the one with Stan Lee as Venom?
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    Image of CmdrHunt (aka Clarence Colton) CmdrHunt (aka Clarence Colton)
    09/22/09

    @Rumtum: In a fat suit and nose prosthesis right?

    Good call though on Charlie.
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    CmdrHunt (aka Clarence Colton) was starred CmdrHunt (aka Clarence Colton) was unstarred
    Image of OW-Holmes:Bringer of Fear OW-Holmes:Bringer of Fear
    09/22/09

    In reply to Johnny Depp Is Not In The Next Nolan Batman, Sorry
    Wait I heard Hugh Grant is going to play Killer Croc?
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    OW-Holmes:Bringer of Fear was starred OW-Holmes:Bringer of Fear was unstarred
    Image of spicylunch spicylunch
    09/22/09

    @OW-Holmes--Upset with Polling: No, that's Hugh Laurie
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    ggodo, the man from R.O.A.C.H. promoted this comment spicylunch was starred spicylunch was unstarred
    Image of speed321 speed321
    09/22/09

    @OW-Holmes--Upset with Polling:
    "Well, I, um, well, that is to say, I had him cornered, you see. And I was thinking that, well, I should, you see, I had decided to throw a rock at him. Ah, yes, no, maybe, don't think that about me! It was, in truth, a rather large rock."
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    redqueenmeg promoted this comment speed321 was starred speed321 was unstarred
    Image of CmdrHunt (aka Clarence Colton) CmdrHunt (aka Clarence Colton)
    09/22/09

    @OW-Holmes--Upset with Polling: Dang, I was hoping for a sophisticated sounding Killer Croc.
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    Image of Qwertyfreak Qwertyfreak
    07/09/09

    In reply to Harold Ramis Talks Ghostbusters 3, Zombieland Gets Us Stoked, And Smallville Takes A Leap Forward
    Oh my god, burning hot and ice cold? What will they think of next?
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    Image of littlewade littlewade
    07/09/09

    In reply to Harold Ramis Talks Ghostbusters 3, Zombieland Gets Us Stoked, And Smallville Takes A Leap Forward
    the thing that made ghostbusters funny was the humour the joke and the situations not the low tech equipment???
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