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    Image of Wookie1972 Wookie1972
    10:07 AM

    In reply to 10 Favorite Faux Deaths In Science Fiction
    Can't beleive I forgot Hank and Dean! #startrek
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    Image of gigshaft gigshaft
    11/08/09

    In reply to 10 Favorite Faux Deaths In Science Fiction
    I can't believe no one's mentioned Doctor Who. A franchise built entirely on the idea of the lead character's undeath. #startrek
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    Image of Discodave: R.O.A.C.H. M.O.T.E.L. Discodave: R.O.A.C.H. M.O.T.E.L.
    11/08/09

    @gigshaft: In fairness, that's probably because he hasn't died yet - the regeneration has (almost) always been part of the canon, so it's not like he's apparently died as William Hartnell and then been reborn next season as Patrick Troughton.

    I see where you're coming from, but this is too much of a cheating death device to be included as a faux death one, imho. #startrek
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    Image of Jesse Astle Jesse Astle
    03:14 AM

    @Discodave: R.O.A.C.H. M.O.T.E.L.: He regenerates just before death, not after it. So technically it isn't coming back from the dead, its cheating death. All I'm saying is that somewhere out there, Death is waiting patiently next to his chess set. #startrek
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    Discodave: R.O.A.C.H. M.O.T.E.L. promoted this comment Jesse Astle was starred Jesse Astle was unstarred
    Image of CarrerCrytharis CarrerCrytharis
    06:44 AM

    @Discodave: R.O.A.C.H. M.O.T.E.L.: Well, he did suffer temporary death by alternate timeline that one time in Season 4 of the new series. #startrek
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    Discodave: R.O.A.C.H. M.O.T.E.L. promoted this comment CarrerCrytharis was starred CarrerCrytharis was unstarred
    Image of whormongr whormongr
    07:20 AM

    @Discodave: R.O.A.C.H. M.O.T.E.L.: you can't make that argument if jean grey is on the list #startrek
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    Discodave: R.O.A.C.H. M.O.T.E.L. promoted this comment whormongr was starred whormongr was unstarred
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    09:57 AM

    @CarrerCrytharis: I thought that was more using Donna's potential life to power something nebulous that I never quite understood, more than the Doctor actually dying? #startrek
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    09:58 AM

    @Jesse Astle: Um, isn't that what I said? #startrek
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    10:00 AM

    @whormongr: Well, I sort of can in that the Doctor never actually died and it was never assumed he had - unlike Jean Grey both in the comic and the film (before the retcon). #startrek
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    Image of bookwench bookwench
    11/08/09

    In reply to 10 Favorite Faux Deaths In Science Fiction
    Re-naming this thread "There's Something About Kenny" in honor of the most-dead cartoon character ever. Even if I hate the show, Kenny has the title. #startrek
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    11/08/09

    In reply to 10 Favorite Faux Deaths In Science Fiction
    On the topic of resurrection, has anyone else been keeping track of how many times Sam and Dean die in Supernatural? I watched it once, then re-watched them with my husband (had to introduce him to the show because of the cars and music) and the second time through I almost fell out of my chair laughing every time a Winchester died. It's like a drinking game. #startrek
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    Image of Dr Emilio Lizardo Dr Emilio Lizardo
    11/08/09

    In reply to 10 Favorite Faux Deaths In Science Fiction
    How about Jadzia Dax and her reincarnation as Ezri? Does that count? #startrek
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    Image of geesejuggler geesejuggler
    11/08/09

    In reply to 10 Favorite Faux Deaths In Science Fiction
    I showed this article to my mom and sister, which then launched into this arguement on whether or not Spock actually died. This is, of course, after the long lecture from my mom on why time travel is implausible and sucks as a story line. Having a geek family is a two-edged sword.

    *Update: Does Deadpool and/or Anyone from Smallvile count?
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    Edited by geesejuggler at 11/08/09 7:36 PM geesejuggler was starred geesejuggler was unstarred
    Image of smithereen smithereen
    11/08/09

    In reply to 10 Favorite Faux Deaths In Science Fiction
    John Locke from Lost.
    Died by hanging, but then undied when he "returned" to the Island.
    Cause of undeath: WHO THE FRAK KNOWS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! #startrek
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    Evil Tortie's Mom: R.O.A.C.H. promoted this comment smithereen was starred smithereen was unstarred
    Image of Evil Tortie's Mom: R.O.A.C.H. Evil Tortie's Mom: R.O.A.C.H.
    11/08/09

    @smithereen: But... dun dun dun... that's not really Locke, remember? It's someone or something else in Locke's body or using his form.

    The real John Locke is dead.

    So far. #startrek
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    Image of Dresan Dresan
    11/08/09

    @Evil Tortie's Mom: R.O.A.C.H.: Oh GOD how much until LOST comes back? #startrek
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    Image of SJ_Edwards SJ_Edwards
    11/08/09

    In reply to 10 Favorite Faux Deaths In Science Fiction
    Allison (Young) from Palmdale.
    Died: 2026
    Undied: altered future 2007-2026
    Cause of death: Trachea crushed after interrogation by Terminator Cameron, ostensibly for failure-to-cooperate in an attempt to kill 2026 John Connor.
    Does it count as death: "Apparently not".....

    Allison's failure-to-cooperate was a self-sacrificial attempt to save John Connor in 2026.
    Which may or may not have worked.
    Terminator Cameron was caught, whilst attempting to kill John, scrubbed and sent back to 1999 to find John and jump him forward to 2007.
    2007 John and Cameron caused the removal from Depot 37 of the Coltan that Terminator Cameron would have been built from, at Depot 37 in 2026, thus preventing Cameron from existing in 2026 and killing Allison. Thus establishing a future where Allison continues to live.
    Later John jumps from 2009 to this 2026.
    Thus establishing a future where no John Connor had existed since 2009 because he had jumped out of its past.
    So John and Allison then exist together again in an altered future 2026.

    Cameron's chipless endoskeleton is left back in this future's 2009 past, along with the physical Turk/John Henry AI (which may have merged with Cameron's chip either just prior to the jump or earlier when Cameron's chip briefly merged with the (Crom?)ARTIE traffic control network) and Sarah Connor.
    Cameron's chip (+AI?) is in Cromartie's endoskeleton along with Terminator Catherine Weaver in this future, with a live Kyle Reese and Uncle Derek Reese,
    who.....
    Died: 2009
    Undied: altered future 2009-2026
    Cause of death: "Bullet to the brainpan, squish."
    Does it count as death: Every death counts. #startrek
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    Image of Im_your_Huckleberry Im_your_Huckleberry
    11/08/09

    @SJ_Edwards: Better take some Tylenol after all of that. Damn, my head hurts just reading all of that. #startrek
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    Image of SJ_Edwards SJ_Edwards
    11/08/09

    @Im_your_Huckleberry: I did my best to shorten and simplify it :)
    I suspect that Season 3 of TSCC may have been more complicated...... #startrek
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    Image of Im_your_Huckleberry Im_your_Huckleberry
    11/08/09

    @SJ_Edwards: Yea, most series hit their stride in their third season. Look at Heroes........wait...... crap, tried to keep a straight face. :)
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    Image of Dr Emilio Lizardo Dr Emilio Lizardo
    11/08/09

    @SJ_Edwards: This is beautiful on so many levels. #startrek
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    Image of Smeagol92055 Smeagol92055
    11/08/09

    @SJ_Edwards: Marry me. #startrek
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    Image of blackoak blackoak
    11/08/09

    In reply to 10 Favorite Faux Deaths In Science Fiction
    What about Blake from "Blake's 7" (though he is - or, since it is set in the future, will be - dead again)?

    If you include "Riverworld" does that mean everyone is included on the list? #startrek
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    Image of Wookie1972 Wookie1972
    11/08/09

    In reply to 10 Favorite Faux Deaths In Science Fiction
    Oh, and what about the original oh-sh*t-he's-still-popular-so-I-have-to-bring-...: Sherlock Holmes? Not sci-fi at all, but still genre. #startrek
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    Image of Evil Tortie's Mom: R.O.A.C.H. Evil Tortie's Mom: R.O.A.C.H.
    11/08/09

    @Wookie1972: The classic example, an influence on many of these. #startrek
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    Image of Smeagol92055 Smeagol92055
    11/08/09

    @Wookie1972: I disagree. Sherlock Holmes was urban fantasy at the very least, which counts here at io9. #startrek
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    Image of J. Heretic J. Heretic
    11/08/09

    In reply to 10 Favorite Faux Deaths In Science Fiction
    How about Aeryn Sun, killed by Scorpius's mental clone in the body of John Crichton during a dogfight over an ice planet, then brought back to life by Pa'u Zotoh Zhaan at the eventual cost of Zhaan's life? #startrek
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    Image of Jeb_Hoge Jeb_Hoge
    11/08/09

    @J. Heretic: Not to mention both Aeryn and Crichton at the end of the series, then back for the movie? #startrek
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    Image of madnys madnys
    11/08/09

    In reply to 10 Favorite Faux Deaths In Science Fiction
    To heck with Jean Grey, I think you'd be hard pressed to find a single one of the X-Men who hasn't died at some point or other, only to be brought back at some future date. (Most likely when sales start to slow.)

    "..in mutant heaven there are no pearly gates, but instead revolving doors." #startrek
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    Image of AmishJohn AmishJohn
    11/08/09

    @madnys: Sign seen in front of Xavier's mansion: "________ has just died. Back in 30 Minutes." #startrek
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    Image of Wookie1972 Wookie1972
    11/08/09

    In reply to 10 Favorite Faux Deaths In Science Fiction
    Oh, and on the subject of Batman, what about Alfred? #startrek
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    Image of Daniel-Midnight Daniel-Midnight
    11/08/09

    @Wookie1972: Ah, when he died then came back as the villain" The Outsider" who had skin like the surface of the moon? #startrek
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    Image of Wookie1972 Wookie1972
    10:00 AM

    @Daniel-Midnight: Yeah. In fact they brought him back because of the TV show, I believe. Shows you that the TV show's influence on the comic wasn't all bad. #startrek
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    Image of Wookie1972 Wookie1972
    11/08/09

    In reply to 10 Favorite Faux Deaths In Science Fiction
    Um, wasn't the whole "Phoenix force was never really Jean Grey" Thing a big ol' Retcon in the first place? That was pretty much the moment I stopped caring about Marvel comics, especially since Jim Shooter was all sanctimonious about how Phoenix "had to die." #startrek
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    Image of TickMan TickMan
    11/08/09

    @Wookie1972: If that is what made you hate Marvel. I can't help but imagine where the DC hate started. Or did the alternate universe crisis junk seem ok with you. Even I can't wrap my head around the proper canon in the DC universe. One day they have a cool non-canon story, but it's so awesome they somehow morph it into the universe, but then they wipe everything out with a crisis and Superhorse disappears along with the other Superpets.
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    Image of Wookie1972 Wookie1972
    10:03 AM

    @TickMan: Well, I got into DC post-Crisis, mostly because of the Miller Dark Knight. But basically I like the way DC writers (especially Morrison) try to bring in all the weirdness rather than sweep it under the carpet. I mean, he used BatMite, for pete's sake! #startrek
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    Image of Rocketknight Rocketknight
    11/08/09

    In reply to 10 Favorite Faux Deaths In Science Fiction
    Every time I see shitty, ridiculous retcons that bring back characters, my desire to pay attention to the franchise starts to take a nosedive.

    For instance, I read on Wikipedia that Gwen Stacy dies in Ultimate Spider-Man, just like in the mainstream universe. Cool, right? I heard soon after that she was brought back. Now I have zero desire to read it past that point.

    I wish people would kill off their characters and leave them that way. DC and Marvel especially. #startrek
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    Image of Wookie1972 Wookie1972
    11/08/09

    @Rocketknight: The trouble is that any given continuity can last, at beast, a few years. You can't have Peter Parker still haunted by the death of Gwen Stacy (or Uncle Ben, for that matter), when it in fact happened over 40 years ago. #startrek
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    Image of Rocketknight Rocketknight
    11/08/09

    @Wookie1972: So don't have him haunted by the death for 40 years. Have him get the hell over it and show him enter a new phase in his life. Or better yet, finish up the character's story and move on to a new franchise!

    But that would be asking too much. #startrek
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    Image of TickMan TickMan
    11/08/09

    @Rocketknight: Sadly. Superheroes are like the days of our lives. They go on forever. All my children seem to love Spiderman. #startrek
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    Image of Rocketknight Rocketknight
    11/08/09

    @TickMan: Yes, I know. And the people responsible for that should be kicked in the groin until they pee blood. #startrek
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