@OW-Holmes--Upset with Polling: We can't, because if we travel into the future from this point in time, it will be the future of THIS reality, in which Biff is corrupt, powerful, and married to your mother, and in which THIS has happened to ME!! [holds up newspaper reading "EMMETT BROWN COMMITTED"] No, our only chance to repair the present is in the past, at the point where the time line skewed into this tangent. In order to put the universe back as we remember it and get back to our reality, we have to find out the exact date and specific circumstances of how, when, and where young Biff got his hands on that sports almanac.
@Grey_Area: Aww, thanks! :) Here's a secret, though, I already have a 4-year-old. But he thinks I am cool too. And he watches LOTR. So we have that going for us, which is nice.
@OW-Holmes--Upset with Polling: If you're referring to the description of Frank Miller's Martha Washington, it works out like this:
1.In the 1990s Frank Miller wanted to write a political satire. He set it in the future so it wouldn't be about any specific person but about general concepts in politics and socioeconomics.
2.In the 1990s the 21st Century was still in the future.
3.Much of the story takes place in what is now our present day --the early 21st Century.
4.Frank Miller is a good writer but not a prescient one. His fictional details of 21st Century life are entertaining but of course have no connection with the actual 21st Century we find ourselves in. They diverge quite a bit.
What's the difference between the "Left Behind" series of books and films and Ron Moore's "Battlestar Galatica"?
150,000 Years and a lot less pretension!
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Seriously, Moore ruined BSG by making it nothing but the story of a vengeful god forcing humanity to live his way. Why blame the Cylons when they were nothing more than a god's tool to force humans to live according to his rules?
At least the "Left Behind" authors were honest from the beginning that they were writing fire and brimstone sci-fi.
@EthanRing: The concept of God in BSG is actually very different from Left Behind. The traditional Christian God is presented as an entity totally separate from his creation. He is described as a good being in conflict with evil. The BSG god is described by Baltar as a force of nature beyond "good and evil" which is closer to pantheistic or panentheistic views of god. Unlike the God depicted in the Bible and the Left Behind novels, a force of nature beyond good and evil can not be vengeful. You're reading more into the final episodes of the series than is actually there.
Secondly, it is abundantly clear from the very beginning that some concept of god would play out in the finale of the series. Religion and god are topics of discussion in nearly every episode. From its very conception in the 1970s , one of the major themes of Battlestar Galactica series was man's relationship to the divine. The difference between Glen Larson's conception and Ron Moore's is that Larson made his version of god more concrete and anthropomorphic than Moore's. If anything it is Larson's version that is in line with Left Behind, not Moore's.
@Grey_Area: is it that obvious? maybe you’re right, i've been neglecting my responsibilities to feed this obsession and... *bolts for the window YOU CAN'T MAKE ME GO BACK!!!
@Meredith Woerner: I think Chimaera is right, the past, that is unless you are assuming there is going to be a return of Cylons... because they rose twice already... thousands of years ago... crap now I'm getting confused.
It would be interesting to see a BSG DVD movie that takes you back to that period.
It was dumb of Ron Moore and David Eick to push off the idea of more movies. But then maybe they figured everyone would be so disgusted by the fourth season that no one would want to see anymore.
No cause George Lucas invented everything himself and original. Star Wars was not inspired by various good and bad WW2 movies, 1940s movie serials, Kurosawa films or the Japanese movie, The Hidden Castle. No siree, not one damned bit. /end snarky fanboy reply
Sadly, the one character that was a true Lucas original was Jar-Jar Binks.
I wonder, tho, if in the not-to-distant-future we'll see those same Nerdy McRichy-Pants' (love it!) happily shelling out for, say, 'Official' or 'Original' .obj files (or whatever format) of the virtual ship models used in the show.
No more useful than a non-virtual film model, and, as our lives increasingly come to include virtual spaces, no less nerd-cred-worthy an object to display on your virtual mantlepiece...
@Truthseeker_Young: But like all things digital, much easier to copy. Everyone will be able to have their own copy, which you can't do with real stuff. So I don't think McRichy-Pants would pony up as much.
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1.In the 1990s Frank Miller wanted to write a political satire. He set it in the future so it wouldn't be about any specific person but about general concepts in politics and socioeconomics.
2.In the 1990s the 21st Century was still in the future.
3.Much of the story takes place in what is now our present day --the early 21st Century.
4.Frank Miller is a good writer but not a prescient one. His fictional details of 21st Century life are entertaining but of course have no connection with the actual 21st Century we find ourselves in. They diverge quite a bit.
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150,000 Years and a lot less pretension!
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Seriously, Moore ruined BSG by making it nothing but the story of a vengeful god forcing humanity to live his way. Why blame the Cylons when they were nothing more than a god's tool to force humans to live according to his rules?
At least the "Left Behind" authors were honest from the beginning that they were writing fire and brimstone sci-fi.
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Secondly, it is abundantly clear from the very beginning that some concept of god would play out in the finale of the series. Religion and god are topics of discussion in nearly every episode. From its very conception in the 1970s , one of the major themes of Battlestar Galactica series was man's relationship to the divine. The difference between Glen Larson's conception and Ron Moore's is that Larson made his version of god more concrete and anthropomorphic than Moore's. If anything it is Larson's version that is in line with Left Behind, not Moore's.
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"You mean the past?"
"EXACTLY!"
- Doc Brown and Marty McFly, Indian Themed Drive-In, 1955.
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somtimes it's so easy i don't know why i even bother.
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Oh, and tetracycloide? You need to seek professional help. Get a new hobby.
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*bolts for the window
YOU CAN'T MAKE ME GO BACK!!!
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It was dumb of Ron Moore and David Eick to push off the idea of more movies. But then maybe they figured everyone would be so disgusted by the fourth season that no one would want to see anymore.
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LOL.
So that's the connection between Star Wars and BSG.
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No cause George Lucas invented everything himself and original. Star Wars was not inspired by various good and bad WW2 movies, 1940s movie serials, Kurosawa films or the Japanese movie, The Hidden Castle. No siree, not one damned bit. /end snarky fanboy reply
Sadly, the one character that was a true Lucas original was Jar-Jar Binks.
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I'm sure some Nerdy McRichy-Pants would have paid some coin for a Galactica, Pegasus, Basestar, or Colonial One filming model.
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I wonder, tho, if in the not-to-distant-future we'll see those same Nerdy McRichy-Pants' (love it!) happily shelling out for, say, 'Official' or 'Original' .obj files (or whatever format) of the virtual ship models used in the show.
No more useful than a non-virtual film model, and, as our lives increasingly come to include virtual spaces, no less nerd-cred-worthy an object to display on your virtual mantlepiece...
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