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vulcanized
10/29/09

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Don't know if this is correct, but I found this brief description. Spoiler, obviously.
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Olmos does 'The last Battlestar.........Galactica.' rant the old series had at the end of each ep. along with a very similar shot of the Galactica and fleet. #battlestargalacticatheplan
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Cash907Censored
10/29/09

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Is it an apology from RDM and Eick for the despicable insult to fans' intelligence that was the bogus "the angels did it" series finale? #battlestargalacticatheplan
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danield3013
10/29/09

@Cash907Censored: What makes me angriest about the ending is that the whole religious theme/ending came out of the blue. I mean after four years you think they would have given us a hint in even a single episode that there was some sort of overarching theism at play. All would have asked for even once would have been something like "God has a plan for you Gaius," or a political leader being declared a prophet and seeing visions. Using ancient temples to find Earth or someone like Kara Thrace keeping iconographic statues in her locker, or whatever. But no! We get Deus ex machina out of nowhere! Nowhere! How dare they. Although watching Six have sex was pretty damn close to a religious experience every time. #battlestargalacticatheplan
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Alessar
10/30/09

@danield3013: It's not that there was a lack of foreshadowing -- Head Six said VERY early on, "I'm an Angel." No the thing is, since it's a science fiction show, nobody believed her because that would be VERY VERY STUPID and pretty much contravene the very nature of Sci Fi. To have religion in a future culture? Sure. Religion is a part of culture, a part of any setting. But to have truly divine intervention from a seemingly omniscient, omnipresent diety? Makes it fantasy, craps on free will, and turns the entire show into a story of god playing with people.

I think that what a lot of people were expecting was some kind of advanced, evolved race ala the Ancients in Stargate (perhaps the Lords of Kobol?) or some other agency *posing* as god. A Kobollian supercomputer trying to play the pure humans and the pure technos against each other to create a true new hybrid race. Tigh went on about THAT angle but in the end... it totally fizzled too. #battlestargalacticatheplan
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CodenameV
10/29/09

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the original series is not a "Scifi classic even today"...it doesn't date very well and while a "landmark" for its time, it also has a lot of problems

do they....seriously think the show succeeded, even now after EVERYTHING...because of the HANDFUL of TOS fans?

I would have watched it if it was "Untitled Ron Moore Dark Political Scifi Show with Robots"

I got interested, originally, because I heard it was being made by disgruntled scifi writers (Moore, also Bradley&Thompson) as a "reaction to Voyager".

Even after four seasons, the Original Series fans are still trying to ride *our* coat-tails? #battlestargalacticatheplan
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dougdirac
10/29/09

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Hopefully someone will just tell us what it is. That certainly isn't enough to make me buy that lame movie. #battlestargalacticatheplan
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ChuckEye
10/29/09

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Muffit II? #battlestargalacticatheplan
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atrus123
10/29/09

@ChuckEye: Please make it so. #battlestargalacticatheplan
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edosan
10/29/09

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So for those of us that can't be bothered to rent The Plan -- someone just tell us what it is. #battlestargalacticatheplan
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cletar
10/29/09

@edosan: Kill the humans. The simplest plans are the best, really. #battlestargalacticatheplan
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Srynerson
10/29/09

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Of course this gets posted just an hour or so after I drop my NetFlix envelope with The Plan into the mailbox! :( #battlestargalacticatheplan
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Jim Topoleski
10/29/09

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Wasnt this leaked a while back? Where they CGd the opening of the old show as well as some of the iconic shots from it and leaked it onto youtube like a month ago? #battlestargalacticatheplan
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Cobra-Commander
10/29/09

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I love both. THe new BSG was great, except for a too-weird ending, but the original has a special place in my heart. Someone needs to spoil this though. I am unlikely to remember to look for this even if I do buy this DVD. #battlestargalacticatheplan
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G8-167/Super Aguri
10/29/09

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There were fans of the old show? #battlestargalacticatheplan
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atrus123
10/29/09

@G8-167/Super Aguri: I think my dad liked it... sorta. #battlestargalacticatheplan
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EugeniaBSG
10/29/09

@G8-167/Super Aguri: Yes. And I still am.

I never claimed it was "the best show ever", just "my favourite show". If other people don't like it, fine, but I got tired of people (particularly Moore and Eick) tearing it down so let's just skip the "cheesy, disco, 70's hair" stuff, okay?
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AngriestGeek
10/29/09

@EugeniaBSG: I enjoyed the original series myself, but never got over the sheer idiocy of them finding a new human settlement every week. Given the Cylons were following them, I think we can guess what happened to those people. #battlestargalacticatheplan
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Lassus
10/29/09

@G8-167/Super Aguri: I was completely and utterly into the old show. Loved it.

Granted, I was eight years old. Even so, it was awesome. #battlestargalacticatheplan
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EugeniaBSG
10/29/09

@AngriestGeek: It certainly had its flaws. There's no arguing about that.

However, I tend to let some things slide if I get unashamed space opera/adventure with a sense of humour and a cast that is clearly enjoying the "dress up and act silly" theatricality of it all.
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G8-167/Super Aguri
10/29/09

@EugeniaBSG: Hair wasn't the problem - poor writing was. Not that BSG had a monopoly on that back then. But as soon as I saw the required kid and mechanical dog (and I mean during the first run) I was skeptical. After seeing a few shows, I was pretty turned off. To each his own - if you like it, more power to you. #battlestargalacticatheplan
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Evil Tortie's Mom: R.O.A.C.H.
10/29/09

@EugeniaBSG: Yeah, Moore in his infinite ego always overlooked the tiny little differences like, oh, 30 years of time, development of TV, network vs. cable, changing society, different audience. Minor things like that.

Pretty sure if he'd been a writer on the original, he wouldn't have written as well as the actual ones did.

If it sucked so much, why did he remake it instead of coming up with his own idea? #battlestargalacticatheplan
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EugeniaBSG
10/29/09

@G8-167/Super Aguri: "Required kid and mechanical dog" vs. "Hera, the amazing hybrid conceived through true love with blood that can cure cancer (until Moore decides that was a mistake) and is the central subject of various cylons and people's 'visions' who becomes the 'Mitochondrial Eve'"?

Does "The Plan" even address why Gaius and Laura were having the same "visions"? Caprica Six (or was that Gaius's Head-Six? Or both Sixes?) and Sharon Agathon being Cylons could possibly share "visions" (by "projecting") as demonstrated by Sharon Valerii and Tyrol, but I can't think of any reason given in the series for Gaius and Laura...other than "God (who doesn't like being called that) did it".

Damn. I hate it when I try to make sense out of Moore's "re-imagined" series.
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emag
10/30/09

@EugeniaBSG: There's nothing about Baltar (apart from a few old shots from the mini-series and early season 1) or Laura in The Plan.

The Plan centers around 1) "Brother" Cavil on Battlestar Galactica telling the other BSG-based Cylons what to do and 2) Anders leading the Buccaneers on Caprica. #battlestargalacticatheplan
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Roklimber
10/29/09

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Lemme guess... it's Lorne Greene, who traveled in time to our present, just to complain about how Ron Moore frakked the last couple of seasons of BSG and, by extension, tarnished the memory of the old series. #battlestargalacticatheplan
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Jeff Weidner
10/29/09

@Roklimber: That's true. Because Galactica 1980 did nothing to tarnish the original series.... #battlestargalacticatheplan
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TemporalSword
10/29/09

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Hmmm, strange. I didn't think fans of the old BSG were allowed to mingle with fans of the new. #battlestargalacticatheplan
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redqueenmeg
10/29/09

@TemporalSword: That's silly. My husband and I have only seen the new show but we always watched it with our neighbor, who is a rabid new-and-old-show fan. #battlestargalacticatheplan
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vulcanized
10/29/09

@TemporalSword: It's possible to love them both. You just love them in different ways. #battlestargalacticatheplan
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AngriestGeek
10/24/09

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I walked away when the conclusion was "Jeebus" and haven't looked back. Nothing I've read here is going to encourage me to change that. #battlestargalactica
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Klebert L. Hall
10/24/09

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"We also discover that the Cylons never really had a "plan" at all"

Hey, just like the writers!

Does that mean the writers are anti-human skinjobs? It would certainly explein some things...
-Kle. #battlestargalactica
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Klebert L. Hall
10/24/09

@Klebert L. Hall:

Hmm... can't make the edit work.

"explain".
-Kle. #battlestargalactica
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Alessar
10/26/09

@Klebert L. Hall: Yeah .... the series didn't just go off the rails, the tran rocketed off the tracks and exploded at the bottom of the ravine like the horse-drawn carriage in Van Helsing. I don't care a fig about this new movie. There isn't a retcon in the universe big enough to save the series unless the entire last half of the last season is a fantasy going through the mind of someone about to pull the trigger and kill herself. #battlestargalactica
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Guang
10/24/09

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Not gonna watch it. Watching the last season of BSG was depressingly painful. I wanted to find out what happened, figuring that it all would make sense in the end...but that didn't happen.

It was pretty obvious that the story-arc writer didn't have a plan, and if he didn't have a plan, how are the Cylons supposed to have a plan? #battlestargalactica
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