I've been finding short-story anthologies giving me more bang for my buck than novels the past year or two. And I don't think I read any of these Eclipses; trade paperbacks are too pricey.
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Hooray for the Eclipse series! I hope these yearly anthologies will win over more readers and writers to find the best that is possible in speculative fiction short stories.
Another note, all these stories are seeing print for the first time but you will be seeing some of them again in award nomination lists and Year's Best anthologies.
Already looking forward to Eclipse Four!
I read the book, and am back with a resounding "meh". Imaginative, yes. Suspenseful, yes. But there were lots of tired old cliches in here, and the overall plot felt like a retread Clancy novel. (Only this time, with Moloch!)
Really, this read like a book without much of a heart or soul. I liked the creepy characters, I liked the way they were described in appearance and in action, but never felt like I should really care about any of them. Gabriel is rootless, as are most of the people he comes across. So it's a bunch of rootless people, an evil government, and demonic forces with very little motivation other than "I'm evil, just because that's how I roll."
I know I won't reread this. If you like shadowy political suspense or demonic-style occult stuff, then this might be your thing. If you prefer more intrapersonal stories, then... maybe pick one of the other io9-reviewed books. #johnshirley
I was pretty disappointed. I couldn't stand how Ren was sloppily retconned into Jimmie's life. (actually, the whole character of Ren was annoying) I could see involving Glenn with the Gardeners and exploring how their their ideas (the waterless flood) would have influenced his decision to, you know, destroy humanity, but Atwood shied away from that and instead focused on Ren's inexplicable lifelong crush on Jimmie.
In the end, I finished it just to finish it. I didn't really care about any of these characters and the end was a little to "neat" for me (hey, welcome to the end of the world, how convenient that we all know each other). Which is a shame because Oryx and Crake is one of my favorite books and I'm a huge Atwood fan, Cat's Eye and The Blind Assassin are also favorites. #yearoftheflood
@Fate'sBitch: I was in the same boat. I love Atwood, Oryx and Crake is my favorite of hers, but I didn't like this one as much. The relationships between the characters in general rang false, in my opinion. In Oryx and Crake, relationships like Crake and Jimmy's snippy-but-affectionate co-dependency and Jimmy's maybe-one-sided obsession with Oryx felt authentic and intense. In The Year of the Flood, I felt like the only reason these characters were connected was because they were all briefly mentioned in the last book. Ren's crush especially was dull--maybe it was supposed to mirror Jimmy's long-lived pining for Oryx, but it just felt tagged on. #yearoftheflood
@Fate'sBitch: These were pretty much my thoughts too. The Year of the Flood felt more like fanfiction than a continuation or companion piece to Oryx and Crake. I also felt there was a lot less "science" this time around. The concepts from the first book, though "fanciful," were at least interesting and well-developed. This time around, it just felt like a re-hash of what was mentioned previously.
I also agree about not really connecting with the characters. I didn't find them all that engaging and I wasn't invested in what would happen to them. #yearoftheflood
Just a small quibble: they're always called Gardeners, but the actual name is God's Gardeners.
And to call the science in a work of science-fiction "fanciful at best" seems weirdly derogatory? Unless there is some definite template on what exactly a lion/lamb hybrid would look like? I mean, what other option is there but to imagine the science of the future? #yearoftheflood
@Pope John Peeps II: I'm no scientist, but to me, the science in Oryx and Crake and The Year of the Flood didn't seem that implausible (well...maaaaybe the neon herpes in Oryx and Crake, but who knows?). It seemed to be in the general vein of what current scientists and corporations are looking into. I also wonder if that's why Atwood has called her work "speculative fiction" instead of "science fiction." Maybe she feels that science fiction features only purely fictional science? #yearoftheflood
@englishmajorennui: Well, she's given a bunch of interviews on that subject, so I don't think anynoe has to repeat any of what she has said. Just go Bing it! hahah. microsoft. nice try. #yearoftheflood
@englishmajorennui: Nah, she's just always had a derogetory view of science fiction. Robert J. Sawyer's commented on it once or twice. And just so I don't get pegged as a bandwagon jumper, I've been reading Sawyer for 11-12 years now.
@Pope John Peeps II: Again, as I said before, it wouldn't matter if Atwood hadn't said stuff like "my book isn't science fiction because it's about things that could actually happen." #yearoftheflood
@Wookie1972: Once an author tries to present their work as some sort of prophecy of an inevitable dystopia my interest begins to wane. There's a reason there isn't a section in the bookstore called "Fiction...FOR NOW!!1!" #yearoftheflood
@Pope John Peeps II: The science in both books is appallingly bad. There is a good reason why Atwood refuses to be called a science fiction writer. She doesn't give a crap about science, or scientific realism. All of the science in this novel and in Oryx and Crake were purely intended as symbolism.
@Rumblytums: I can imagine. Very dark but also some really funny ones. It's a rare comic strip that I remember so vividly. One of my favorites is this one. #theperrybiblefellowship
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Another note, all these stories are seeing print for the first time but you will be seeing some of them again in award nomination lists and Year's Best anthologies.
Already looking forward to Eclipse Four!
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Really, this read like a book without much of a heart or soul. I liked the creepy characters, I liked the way they were described in appearance and in action, but never felt like I should really care about any of them. Gabriel is rootless, as are most of the people he comes across. So it's a bunch of rootless people, an evil government, and demonic forces with very little motivation other than "I'm evil, just because that's how I roll."
I know I won't reread this. If you like shadowy political suspense or demonic-style occult stuff, then this might be your thing. If you prefer more intrapersonal stories, then... maybe pick one of the other io9-reviewed books. #johnshirley
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I was pretty disappointed. I couldn't stand how Ren was sloppily retconned into Jimmie's life. (actually, the whole character of Ren was annoying) I could see involving Glenn with the Gardeners and exploring how their their ideas (the waterless flood) would have influenced his decision to, you know, destroy humanity, but Atwood shied away from that and instead focused on Ren's inexplicable lifelong crush on Jimmie.
In the end, I finished it just to finish it. I didn't really care about any of these characters and the end was a little to "neat" for me (hey, welcome to the end of the world, how convenient that we all know each other). Which is a shame because Oryx and Crake is one of my favorite books and I'm a huge Atwood fan, Cat's Eye and The Blind Assassin are also favorites. #yearoftheflood
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I also agree about not really connecting with the characters. I didn't find them all that engaging and I wasn't invested in what would happen to them. #yearoftheflood
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And to call the science in a work of science-fiction "fanciful at best" seems weirdly derogatory? Unless there is some definite template on what exactly a lion/lamb hybrid would look like? I mean, what other option is there but to imagine the science of the future? #yearoftheflood
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@Pope John Peeps II: I'm thinking a lion/lamb hybrid would be sort of like this... #yearoftheflood
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HOF material, and 175% awesome. #theperrybiblefellowship
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@Rumblytums: I can imagine. Very dark but also some really funny ones. It's a rare comic strip that I remember so vividly. One of my favorites is this one. #theperrybiblefellowship
11/06/09
"How 'bout now??"
"HELP ME JENKINS"
It's just too bad he doesn't update anymore. #theperrybiblefellowship
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