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    Image of TheGreenRanger TheGreenRanger
    01:36 PM

    In reply to Grossman: Failure Of Imagination > Harry Potter
    THAT RAT BASTARD! How dare he defile rowlings work! Ahem...cough. That reaction is a bit extreme i'd say, but still, what a twat. Sounds like this guy is jealous that his work isn't even close to providing the level of enjoyment people get from jk. "Astounding failure of imagination"...really gross man? really!? After 7 fantanstic books, after creating a world from the ground up, you are going to call her an epic failure because of a few paragraphs of epilogue? Thats just low. HP was a fantasy world that didn't involve big boobied elves in minimal armor or bulging heroes screaming death to Nar's Gook! I'm sure he would have ended the series with harry just banging a hard bodied witch as she asks him not to leave while he puts on some shades and says 'not now babe, i got a rogue wizard to kill'. In case he hadn't read the books, harry's whole life was full of turmoil. The ending: finally able to live in peace, was the completion of the story. I thought the ending was fitting, but im not a gross man. I'm sure it would make more sense for harry, who spent his whole life fighting v-mort (not to mention losing friends to him) to wish to continue fighting. Or he could want to settle down and live his life without worrying whether his wife will get whacked while out shopping. Personally, i prefer the ending as is. #harrypotter
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    Image of bookwench bookwench
    01:25 PM

    In reply to Grossman: Failure Of Imagination > Harry Potter
    I thought, at first glance, that it was a disappointment - that Harry should have ended up replacing Dumbledore or something.

    Then I contemplated how people who have been through horrors in their teens can imagine no better future than normalcy; that perhaps for someone who spent their entire teenage life fighting for freedom and justice and saving the world, being able to create a nice, normal home for their kids might be the absolute pinnacle of their hopes.

    So then I thought, cool.

    And now I think Mr. Grossman has had a failure in perspective. #harrypotter
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    Image of Rasselas Rasselas
    01:21 PM

    In reply to Grossman: Failure Of Imagination > Harry Potter
    It's pretty rich for a books editor of Time to condemn "bourgeois suburban mediocrity." #harrypotter
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    Image of omgwtflolbbqbye omgwtflolbbqbye
    01:19 PM

    In reply to Grossman: Failure Of Imagination > Harry Potter
    I didn't like the epilogue either.

    Well not as much as this guy, who thinks it crapped the bed for the entire series, I just thought it was a bit unnecessary and felt kind of awkwardly tacked on, like, as others have mentioned, a fanfic written by someone else.

    My theory was that it was Rowlings way of

    1. Sabotaging any future attempts by someone else to resurrect the series or publish unwarranted sequels and add ons

    and/or

    2. To protect herself from the countless fans who would have inundated her until her death with letters and email and pleas as to know what she thinks happened to Harry Potter afterward.
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    01:36 PM

    @omgwtflolbbqbye: If number 2 was her intent, she failed at it, cause she still gets questions about what the characters did after the books. Heck, I think that was all she was asked about for like a month after Hallows came out. #harrypotter
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    Image of AaronProtesilaus AaronProtesilaus
    01:40 PM

    @omgwtflolbbqbye:

    Agreed! #harrypotter
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    Image of psybab psybab
    01:19 PM

    In reply to Grossman: Failure Of Imagination > Harry Potter
    I must say, I enjoyed "The Magicians" immensely (maybe my favorite book of the year), but Grossman needs to not bite the hand that feeds.

    And everyone knows the true ending of Harry Potter - [achewood.com] #harrypotter
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    Image of 0kami 0kami
    01:18 PM

    In reply to Grossman: Failure Of Imagination > Harry Potter
    "And the best she can imagine is that he marries his high school sweetheart and puts on a big gut and lives in the suburbs. What a disaster!"

    :D "What a disaster", eh Grossman? #harrypotter
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    Image of Aidan_ Aidan_
    01:18 PM

    In reply to Grossman: Failure Of Imagination > Harry Potter
    Guy's missing the whole point of the damn endeavor. A lot of people seem to. Sort of like the folks who watch Highlander and think "But but being immortal was so cool!"

    The Prize and Harry's reward are both the same thing: a life where they can love and be loved with their families. It is Life (with the capital L), and it's not flashy or exciting but it is true. #harrypotter
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    Image of Garrison Dean: R.O.A.C.H. Garrison Dean: R.O.A.C.H.
    01:03 PM

    In reply to Grossman: Failure Of Imagination > Harry Potter

    " I think that's something of the message of [Grossman's new book] The Magicians "
    oh... a new catagory... Publicity Troll #harrypotter
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    Image of Platypus Man Platypus Man
    12:53 PM

    In reply to Grossman: Failure Of Imagination > Harry Potter
    "Somewhere, a million Potter fans are sharpening their knives in preparation for revenge."

    No, they don't use knives. They're preparing their wands for battle! #harrypotter
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    Image of hamshank hamshank
    12:52 PM

    In reply to Grossman: Failure Of Imagination > Harry Potter
    I was a little letdown, also - I thought Harry might end up moving to Germany, raising a magic man-made mountain in Berlin and running the world from there. It's what I would have done. #harrypotter
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    Image of redqueenmeg redqueenmeg
    12:51 PM

    In reply to Grossman: Failure Of Imagination > Harry Potter
    I didn't like the epilogue but I wouldn't say it invalidates the series. I just think of that part as fanfic. #harrypotter
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    Image of tetracycloide tetracycloide
    12:50 PM

    In reply to Grossman: Failure Of Imagination > Harry Potter
    i don't think the issue with the epilogue of harry potter is that one character went on to lead a life of bourgeois suburban mediocrity but that all of them did. borrow a page from lord of the rings and throw a little more variety in. the endings for every character were as varied as the characters themselves but for harry potter they're each more or less identical to one another. #harrypotter
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    Image of Jeb_Hoge Jeb_Hoge
    01:05 PM

    @tetracycloide: Actually, the epilogue that Rowling wrote in DH was of a moment in time. The characters DID go on to a lot of bigger things, which she described in a post-release interview (which I can't point to a reference right now, but it's out there). In fact, I was thinking this morning that in theory, there was plenty of room for post-DH fiction, sort of like Star Wars Expanded Universe material. JK Rowling may not do anything with it, but George Lucas didn't write the Thrawn Trilogy, either. #harrypotter
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    Image of enderwiggin13 enderwiggin13
    12:47 PM

    In reply to Grossman: Failure Of Imagination > Harry Potter
    I agree with him too. The Magician wasn't without it's flaws, but I appreciated that it didn't reek of predictability and mediocrity. It felt like a much more realistic take on the boy wizard trope. #harrypotter
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    Image of Bill-Lee Bill-Lee
    12:39 PM

    In reply to Grossman: Failure Of Imagination > Harry Potter
    Was he hoping Rowling would copy the Lord of the Rings where Frodo and Bilbo disapear across the sea with the Elves? Maybe she should have copied Le Morte D'Arthur and have Harry die in the end with a note that says: Here fell Harry Potter, the Once and Future Wizard? What exactly is the chosen one supposed to do once he's defeated his evil nemesis? Is Harry supposed to travel around the world picking fights with other wizards until he finds another dude who is basically evil incarnate? What is so wrong with Harry settling into a nice, quiet life and fading into obscurity? #harrypotter
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    Image of J_Frank_Parnell J_Frank_Parnell
    12:37 PM

    In reply to Grossman: Failure Of Imagination > Harry Potter
    he marries his high school sweetheart and puts on a big gut and lives in the suburbs

    Sounds like a pretty good gig to me. What's so bourgeois about living a quiet, happy life?

    And really, after you defeat the enemy of humanity, what else is there to do? #harrypotter
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    Image of SinisterBill SinisterBill
    12:51 PM

    @J_Frank_Parnell: I totally agree, but to aging hipsters, it's a fate worse than death. #harrypotter
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    12:53 PM

    @J_Frank_Parnell: Go on Oprah? #harrypotter
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    Image of Darklighter Darklighter
    12:53 PM

    @J_Frank_Parnell: It's boring and cliched. #harrypotter
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    Image of I_Like_TDs I_Like_TDs
    01:19 PM

    @Darklighter: Obviously you've never had a girlfriend or kids. Boring?

    @Faustroll: Being in love and having children is "drudgery"? What a sad life you must lead. #harrypotter
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