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BadUncle
08/18/09

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There's also one adjacent to north west Balboa Park, in San Diego.
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Klebert L. Hall
08/18/09

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These things are cool, but I wouldn't call $50K "cheap". They're really more like cabins than houses, and not all that mobile unless you have the helicopter that was intended for transport... They're pretty dang wide for towing.
-Kle.
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joetato
08/18/09

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The Jitterbug Atom (#6) reminds me of the movie Demon Seed, where the supercomputer Proteus uses wedge shaped blocks to kill.
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J_Frank_Parnell
08/17/09

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Wow, that crappy looking plastic furniture didn't sell? What a shocker.
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crashedpc - Haifisch
08/17/09

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Nooo! I wanted a Buckminster Fuller diagram! Damn you rich nerds!

It wouldn't surprise me if those 3-eyed aliens from the Toy Story movies lived in that house in the first picture.
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Drunkenlobster
08/17/09

@crashedpc : It says unsold
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crashedpc - Haifisch
08/17/09

@Drunkenlobster: I wanted the Monohex and the Non-Symmetical Tension Integrity ones, though.
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hamshank
08/17/09

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I'd have the Bucky blueprints in an instant, but I like my UFOs to have wheels or at least feet, rather than a couple of I-beams and a pile of planks...
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Gann
08/17/09

@hamshank: The "I-beams and a pile of planks..." is the trailer you would need to move it. Here it is installed.
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Evil Tortie's Mom: R.O.A.C.H.
08/17/09

@Gann: That sumbitch would make all the Winnebagos, Airstreams, and double-wides wither in inferiority.
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Garro
05/24/09

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If you don't earn your right to live, what's the point of living at all? If there isn't any driving need, then everyone would get really decadent, really fast. There will never be a world like Star Trek unless we're all hyper-evolved or technology provides for us to sit on our asses and do nothing.

As the world works right now, if you live in certain countries I suppose, you can "do what you want to do." For everything that comes close to being a hobby, there's a profession. This guy has a really bleak outlook on things.
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capntim
05/24/09

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"This is what happens on Star Trek and with every living creature on Earth - except humans."

Bullshit. Every living creature on earth does what their gene's gear them toward. Which is the propagation of their genes. Humans have more elaborate song and dance routines they perform to do this, but its still nature.

and to present the idea of bee's or ant's doing what they want to do and find fulfilling is laughable. That imagery is almost always used to portray slavish labor and industry.
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Pope John Peeps II
05/24/09

@capntim: Apparently your genes are steering you towards brutally misusing apostrophes.
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ParryLost
05/24/09

@capntim:I hate to be a grammar Nazi, but I hate it even more when a person blithely calls the ideas of others "bullshit" and "laughable" when said person can't even use apostrophes properly. "Gene's" = of or belonging to the gene. "Genes" = plural of "gene." Same for bee's and ant's. Maybe learn a bit of grammar before making posts describing what other people write as "bullshit?"
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capntim
05/24/09

@ParryLost: the reason you hate to be a grammar nazi is because its a cheap method of composing a retort to an argument without actually making one. The point is bullshit. So I misused some punctuation. You pointed it out. We haven't advanced the discussion any further and now people just hate grammar nazi's a little bit more. Address my point rather than the way in which my point was presented. Or at least be funny about it like Pope John Peeps was.
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Pope John Peeps II
05/24/09

@capntim: Well, there's no real point in making that argument, is there? They're two fundamentally different world-views, from the ground up. I personally think that genetic desire is maybe the last on a long list of reasons to do anything, and that the people who ascribe "genetic desire" to things like the establishment of civilization, the desire to work, the desire to create art are being reductive about the nature of human desires and of the human creature as a whole.

But why make that argument? It's impossible to present, lengthy to write and won't actually resolve anything.
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Garrison Dean: R.O.A.C.H.
05/24/09

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Sounds good to me. Though I find that there is always a large group of people who feel it would never work, and they are usually the ones who would work their hardest to see that it wouldn't.

"Something like this could never work!!!"

"Why?"

"We wouldn't let it!"
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Trystero
05/24/09

@Garrison Dean: R.O.A.C.H.: Wait...aren't you in that group?
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Garrison Dean: R.O.A.C.H.
05/24/09

@Trystero: Are you kidding me! Half the reason I, I mean someone, started ROACH is to create a new global status quo where everyone works to their own abilities. And much like Star Trek, they don't get paid. The biggest difference is that unlike Star Trek if they don't play along I'll have them killed and ultimately they all work for me! This is why I'm going to legally change my name to "The Greater Good" so then when people say I'm working for The Greater Good, they'll be right 100% of the time!
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sandchigger
05/24/09

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Okay, I've said this before and I will say this again: the characters in Star Trek? They are all part of the Federation military. As such, their housing, food, clothing and so on is all provided for by the government (the UFP in this case). This is true today, as well, in the US military. There has *never* been a Star Trek series about life outside the military. The closest we've come is DS9 (and maybe Enterprise, I didn't bother watching it...) which showed us that, indeed, there is still money and poverty in the future.

Also: slave girls imply someone bought them and someone else sold them.
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Pope John Peeps II
05/24/09

@sandchigger: they made it pretty clear in all the Star Trek shows that replication technology basically just ensured that all people had a fundamentally basic standard of life. All they eliminated was want. But the universe had a whole economy of trade and commerce. It seems the same in this Star Trek

I mean, the dock worker told kirk "nice ride". Which means that he desired it. He for some reason couldn't have one. Kirk also offered to buy uhura drinks. Why offer to buy if everything was free. Obviously money is recreational.
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EthanRing
05/24/09

@Pope John Peeps II:

Because someone says "nice ride" doesn't imply desire to posses something. A compliment does not equate with want to own.
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KhaiJB
05/24/09

@Pope John Peeps II: bingo. if you've got a society that all your basic needs - food, clothes, transport, medicine is met with Replicator tech and bascially for nothing (just the energy cost and it seems the Federation has that to spare....) then money's just a plaything.
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Don't Make Me Ang Lee. You wouldn't like me when I'm Ang Lee.
05/24/09

@Pope John Peeps II: I think the replicators eliminated need, not want - like you say, the basic standards are provided. Above and beyond requires fiduciary considerations.
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Pope John Peeps II
05/24/09

@c0dek: Well, I'm using the word "want" as in "lack". So a want of food or clothes, meaning a lack of food or clothes.

@Lincolnsbeard33: I don't know how picard got paid. But he did. Everyone must for the simple practicality of living in the rest of the universe. In DS9 lots of people used money. The Promenade was full of stores. However, for the purposes of the show, starfleet crews are not shown rich or poor but just equal.
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Pope John Peeps II
05/24/09

@EthanRing: Well, if he liked it so much and it was free, why didn't he own one already? What was the purpose of Kirk's giving him his? Why bother even mentioning it if you could just order one materialized in a fraction of a second?

I mean, I don't say "nice skittles" to someone with skittles. I just go and buy one, because I can get them anywhere.
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bluewyvern
05/24/09

@Pope John Peeps II: Your Skittles example doesn't work because all Skittles are the same. But not all "rides" are the same.

You can say to someone "nice shirt" -- it doesn't mean you don't have a shirt, can't afford one, or couldn't go out and get that exact same shirt. You probably don't even want one. It just means you're complimenting them on their taste.
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Pope John Peeps II
05/24/09

@bluewyvern: I didn't think I had to explain this but yes, all rides are the same if they're all replicated because they're made from a template. JUST LIKE SKITTLES.

If they're NOT the same, then obviously somebody has CUSTOM MADE one and thus has made a commodity which someone else might be willing to purchase. Ta daaa. You have an economy.

@Lincolnsbeard33: "If you're wondering how they breathe and eat, and other science facts (da da da!) You should think to youself "this is JUST A SHOW, I SHOULD REALLY JUST RELAX"."
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bluewyvern
05/25/09

@Pope John Peeps II: You think there's only one style of motorcycle in the replicator database?

I would think you could get any kind/style/color of motorcycle or whatever, just like with shirts, or furniture, or anything you choose to use and surround yourself with. Someone complimenting you on your choices doesn't mean they couldn't have had the same thing if they wanted. Hell, I could go to someone's house and see a big telescope on the back patio and go "nice telescope" -- I might not be into astronomy, I might not even want a telescope of my own, but I'm complimenting them on having something cool. I could also say "nice ride" about someone's motorcycle, even though I can't ride a motorcycle and wouldn't want one. But maybe I appreciate the leather seat and the purple flame decals on the side.

It's not about money or scarcity, or even envy. It's about style and taste.
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Pope John Peeps II
05/25/09

@bluewyvern: This thread is just idiotic. Clearly there's some form of luxury economy going on in this frigging movie because all the evidence points to that. Drinks are purchased, motorcycles are given. But all you tiresome frigging pain in the asses are just ignoring all that to muster up the most ridiculous explanations possible just so that you can be as right as you can be.

In this, as in all good arguments, what does the OBVIOUS EVIDENCE POINT TO. Simplest explanations are best explanations.

Christ Io9 is fucking boring. I'm going to log out for a month. I'm actually sick of reading this.
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dantebays
05/24/09

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If there's no money in the future, why was Bones grumbling about how his ex-wife got the "whole damn planet" in the divorce?
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Garrison Dean: R.O.A.C.H.
05/24/09

@dantebays: I took that to mean that he couldn't be near her and that he had to leave earth to get away from her.
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