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Tomb: R.O.A.C.H.
11/16/09

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Breaking funny news: [www.nypost.com] #buffythevampireslayer
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AshThePirate
11/16/09

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Motion comic? Really?

*is underwhelmed* #buffythevampireslayer
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Motoki
11/16/09

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They really need to do something with the Harmony Bites stuff, especuially now that Jane Espenson, err, has more time on her hands. That bit was hillarious. #buffythevampireslayer
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OW-Holmes:Bringer of Fear
11/16/09

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How many more rumors about restarting old Whedon works can there be?

BREAKING NEWS: TITAN AE live action sequel web series! #buffythevampireslayer
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Dunny0
11/16/09

@OW-Holmes: Bringer of Fear: You had me at Titan AE, and lost me at live action. #buffythevampireslayer
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AshThePirate
11/16/09

@OW-Holmes: Bringer of Fear: He did a live action Titan A.E., Firefly. #buffythevampireslayer
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octaslash
11/16/09

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"No Future For You" was probably the best arc of the comics. It felt more like the TV show than some of the other arcs anyway.

I'm not a big fan the recent "Retreat". The idea of Scooby Gang wielding machine guns and rocket launchers is a little ridiculous, but facing a modern army (tanks and all) with them is just weird.

I would love another spinoff on television. A Giles or Faith centered show would kick ass.
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ggodo, the man from R.O.A.C.H.
11/16/09

@octaslash: "What does that do?" #buffythevampireslayer
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omgwtflolbbqbye
11/16/09

@octaslash: Yea I tried to get into the first arc of 'Season 8' since it first came out but couldn't sit through it.

It was kind of boring and didn't feel like a continuation of the t.v. series.

Also they keep bringing back old characters and villains I had totally forgotten about which got confusing. #buffythevampireslayer
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AllOfUsAreLost.
11/16/09

@octaslash: Giles spin-off, HELL YES PLEASE!! I would watch many seasons of "Ripper".

Faith spin-off.. Yeah, no thanks. Eliza Dushku is a liability IMO. #buffythevampireslayer
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tande04
11/16/09

@AllOfUsAreLost.: Faith spin off would have worked when it was first kicked around right after Buffy. Now I agree it wouldn't work and she may well be a liability.

Really its the same with any of the spin-offs. Ripper, Spike, etc. #buffythevampireslayer
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vinylrake
11/16/09

@octaslash: omg the Giles series rumors have been floating around since at least 2001 - LET THEM GO. and Faith? We had that show, it was called DollHouse. Think about the parallels.

Troubled Past including brushes with the law? Faith? Check. Echo? Check.

Recent death of a very significant male influence which changed her life substantially? Faith? Check (mayor) Echo? Check (boyfriend)

Strong desire to run away and just forget the past?
Check. Check.

Impulsive and somewhat reckless? Creative - thinks outside the box? Check. Check.

Close relationship with evil mastermind?
Check. Check.

I think it's OBVIOUS that the Dollhouse is where Faith went for her recuperation. Just look at all the similarities - and heck, the two characters even LOOK alike. You can't tell me that is just coincidence.

(I am pretty sure Angel was getting a pretty large 'referral fee' for all the troubled people he sent to Adele. All those people traumatized by demonic violence who couldn't deal with reality as they suddenly discovered it to be. The fees are the only way to explain how he was able to afford the upkeep/taxes/utilities to maintain an entire hotel in LA) #buffythevampireslayer
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ggodo, the man from R.O.A.C.H.
11/16/09

@tande04: I would watch Mr. Head do anything, but for now I will have to settle for his brother, singing.
[www.youtube.com] #buffythevampireslayer
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tande04
11/16/09

@ggodo, the man from R.O.A.C.H.: Did you see REPO? I was going to watch it for him alone but I could never get around Paris. #buffythevampireslayer
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ggodo, the man from R.O.A.C.H.
11/16/09

@tande04: I would fast forward her, and I'm not going to rent a movie to fastforward most of it. #buffythevampireslayer
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OlavRokne
11/16/09

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Please, no.

This is a bad idea.

Let Buffy end. The series had a premise, a philosophy, and reached the full arc of every important character by the end of season 6. Everything since then has only detracted from the brilliance of the first five seasons. #buffythevampireslayer
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octaslash
11/16/09

@OlavRokne: Season 8 has been going on for over 2 years now, a little too late for complaints. #buffythevampireslayer
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OlavRokne
11/16/09

@octaslash:

And Season 8 is by far the least interesting thing Joss Whedon has done.

Whedon's a genius, and Buffy was amazing, but it's sad to see him, and fans, dwelling on a property that has long passed its expiry date. #buffythevampireslayer
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brentbent: C.O.C.K.R.O.A.C.H. )for all the queer super villians out there(
11/16/09

@OlavRokne: I'm a big Buffy fan and my best friend is a super massive Buffy fan--the kind that reads philosophical musings about Buffy--and neither of us read beyond the first six issues. #buffythevampireslayer
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tande04
11/16/09

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Whew! Dodged that bullet with your misleading title.

Motion comics are stupid. Plus how are they even remotely a real project? All he needs is some animators (and not very good ones) and he can wash his hands of it. Its already written.

I thought you meant that he was actually going to film a web centric version of season 8. Which would suck on a whole different level.
A. I've already said multiple times i'd rather see new Whedon than recycled Whedon.

B. The season 8 comics weren't that great. I followed the show religiously and I've got to say I was a bit lost when season 8 started. Lesbian Buffy would be a nice (but weird) touch on screen. #buffythevampireslayer
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NightMystic
11/16/09

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what on earth is a motion comic? dont tell me its panels just being panned and such #buffythevampireslayer
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ggodo, the man from R.O.A.C.H.
11/16/09

@NightMystic: Yea, more or less. #buffythevampireslayer
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tande04
11/16/09

@NightMystic: Its a little more. Early ones were little more then that. The new ones actually animate the mouths, move arms, etc.

Its still as stupid as it sounds. #buffythevampireslayer
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BoomingEchoes
11/16/09

@tande04:

I liked them better when they were called poorly animated cartoon. #buffythevampireslayer
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vinylrake
11/16/09

@tande04: motion comics make my eyes bleed. if i want crappy half-a***ed 'animation' where the 'animation' is basically digitized paperdolls I'll go watch a power point presentation (smoother transitions). Hell, even Clutch Cargo had better animation than what they are calling 'motion comics'.

I thought with technology things were supposed to improve, not go backwards. #buffythevampireslayer
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tande04
11/16/09

@vinylrake: I hate all of that.

Then on top of that I hate the fact that they always get referred to as "new". Making Wolverine sing and dance doesn't change the fact that I read the comic a year ago. #buffythevampireslayer
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CoffinDodger (If the typos crap. Blame my keyboard)
11/16/09

In reply to Post-Dollhouse, Whedon Returns To Buffy?
I hope that Whedon gets onto making another Buffy series in another town. I mean he's on Dollhouse and that by io9's articles looks like its on the brink of cancellation. Serenity was awesome but we never saw a Firefly rebirth. So why not go back to something he knows and clearly loves. He doesnt need to get involved in this comic, its got to be his heart talking.

Buffy is sucsesful, it made it to the end. The spin off was just as popular. It brought Vamps and monsters back onto the scene and in a good way (not like this twishite)!! And most of the characters were left open for a plausable return!!

I cant see any studio turning down this cash cow OR giving it any less than a 5 season contract. The DVD'S and videos made a packet alone. The merch...I dont wanna think!!!!

It just seems like a good time to strike again while the Twilight (ahem) iron is hot! #buffythevampireslayer
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Dirk Anger
11/16/09

@CoffinDodger (If the typos crap. Blame my keyboard): DH is already cancelled, they're just going to emit the rest of the season, but it's officially over after that #buffythevampireslayer
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CoffinDodger (If the typos crap. Blame my keyboard)
11/16/09

@Dirk Anger: Oh!!! Whedon....COME BACK TO BUFFY!! lol. #buffythevampireslayer
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vinylrake
11/16/09

@CoffinDodger (If the typos crap. Blame my keyboard): I am holding out hope for a Tara spin-off. She could come back as a ghost and help Dawn solve crimes. It would be like grown-up Harriet the Spy meets Ghost Whisperer. It would be teh awesome. #buffythevampireslayer
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reddingofish
11/16/09

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I can't stand motion comics. #buffythevampireslayer
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ggodo, the man from R.O.A.C.H.
11/16/09

@reddingofish: I hate them. Absolute waste of time. #buffythevampireslayer
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jbq
11/16/09

@ggodo, the man from R.O.A.C.H.: Useless things. #buffythevampireslayer
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Wookie1972
11/16/09

@jbq: I like 'em.

Not really, just wanted to break up the monotony. #buffythevampireslayer
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jbq
11/16/09

@Wookie1972: Well, Ah nevah---! #buffythevampireslayer
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Wookie1972
11/03/09

In reply to Aliens Invade In "V" Reboot, Plus Supernatural Goes Super-Meta
I'm going to give V a chance, but nothing - NOTHING - can match this. A defining moment in my childhood. #v
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Atomictao
11/02/09

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White Collar is becoming a collecting pool -- it stars Bryce Larkin from Chuck, has Wendy Watson from the Middleman and Charlie from Fringe as FBI agents, with Kelly from Saved by the Bell in there for good measure.

It's a very watchable show, too, but it helps that its got a lot of very likable actors. #v
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JimBonJovi
11/02/09

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I don't understand why they keep re-airing Threshold. It's as if they enjoy making me sad. How about a 2 hour movie to tie everything up SyFy? Don't those things cost you like 5 dollars to make over there? #v
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Dr Emilio Lizardo
11/02/09

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I remember "Threshold."

More specifically, I remember Carla Gugino in "Threshold." #v
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Atomictao
11/02/09

@Dr Emilio Lizardo: Was Threshold the one with the alien virus that found an excuse to put her in a flimsy nightgown most episodes?

Yeah, she was really, really good in that. #v
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disatess
11/02/09

@Atomictao: the series was pretty good ,better than sci-fi crap of today ,and it`s infinite remakes .

hell... let`s just remake star wars and really make it a parasitic giant . #v
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Atomictao
11/02/09

@disatess: I always get Threshold mixed up with that other show that had the water monsters taking over people's bodies. Threshold was pretty interesting thanks to the characters.

Beyond Carla Gugino being fairly hot, even. #v
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disatess
11/03/09

@Atomictao: other one was called surface . #v
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Starwatcher
11/02/09

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I sat through the entire V: The Final Battle marathon on the SyFy Channel yesterday . . . with my grandma, who quite enjoyed it. Last time I saw it I was like 12 or 13. It's amazing how much I'd forgotten. The scenes that had really stuck with me in childhood were mostly inconsequential, like Diana biting the head off the bird and Elizabeth spitting acid on another little girl. You know, the fun kids' stuff.

That said, the series really needed a remake. It could've been so much better with a larger budget and modern tech. Some of it is really dated, like the special effects during Julie's conversion, which were rather humorous in spots rather than being frightening (The giant iguana? Maybe if it had whipped out it's giant double penis . . .) Anyway, I assume this remake will be loosely based on the series, so I'm expecting lots of flash and a dumbed-down plot.
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Bill-Lee
11/02/09

@Starwatcher: "...so I'm expecting lots of flash and a dumbed-down plot..." Yeah, the original V was so smart with its obvious symbolism, one dimensional villains, hokey sentimentality, and corny dialog. All that was missing was Marc Singer turning to the camera and saying, "This story is about fascism. The aliens are Nazis from outer space." #v
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disatess
11/02/09

@Bill-Lee: I don`t have high hopes for the remake , and to think of it ,

what`s the fine line between remake and copying ? #v
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Bill-Lee
11/03/09

@disatess: I don't think the new series will be that great but the original was hardly high art. It starred Marc Singer for Pete's sake. The one truly alien quality they gave the Visitors besides the green skin was the habit of eating live meat. #v
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Starwatcher
11/03/09

@Bill-Lee: Well, it wasn't spectacular, but it could've been a lot worse. So, the symbolism was obvious. So what? Many of the best Twilight Zone eps had rather obvious symbolism too. I really don't have a big problem with polemical fiction, as long as it tries to be fair, and I think V did. Here you had humans siding with the aliens and some of the aliens siding with humans. And we are talking about alien lizards here--do you really think they would be anything other than predatory fascists? #v
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Bill-Lee
11/03/09

@Starwatcher: It just shows that Johnson doesn't know much about reptile behavior, lizards aren't particularly social animals and fascism requires a large measure of social cooperation. Predatory? Yes. Nazis from space? No. The humans who sided with Visitors were the unwashed masses who were easily duped by the Visitor's empty promises, individuals brainwashed by the conversion process, or complete assholes to begin with -- like Donovan's mom. So that's hardly even handed. The Visitors who sided with humans were either dimwits like Robert Englund's character or using the human resistance for their own ends like Martin. I would have liked to know more about Martin's motivations but Johnson never bothers to show us. Johnson's script is so poorly written that he barely even gives Martin anything to do but be convinced by Donovan's arguments. I don't remember all of his lines but they were mostly amounted to "I want to help you but your plan seems dangerous. My people can't risk that much for you."

The Twilight Zone was written in the late 1950s and early 60s. TV was still a novelty and TV writers weren't sure how subtle they could be with it yet. And the audience was still getting a grasp of TV drama. By the time Johnson created V, TV had been around for 30 years, viewers were used to it, and TV writers were beginning to experiment with realistic dialog and subtle themes. Johnson wrote V as if he were writing it for a the original Twilight Zone. His Jewish character practically screams, "These aliens remind me of Poland in 1939, when the Nazis took over. Take special note of the parallels that Kenny Johnson has included such as their swastika style logo, uniforms, and rounding up of scientists. I am here as a Jewish character to remind you of the Holocaust. Remember the Holocaust?" It was dreck. Entertaining and high minded dreck but still dreck. The remake can't be lamer than the original. It can equal it but it can't be worse. #v
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