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10/28/09
[thebox-movie.warnerbros.com] #richardkelly
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Perhaps Zero Population Growth advocate @psychiccheese down there would disagree. Mwahaha, I kid, I kid.
I still think this film is a ripoff of Black Button. [www.youtube.com] #thebox
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26 Freaky Stills From Cameron Diaz's Box Leave Us Confused And Scared
See how funny that is. It will never get old. It's like when you add "...in bed." to the end of every fortune you read from a fortune cookie. It makes our lives that much better. #thebox
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All I'm seeing is a whole bunch of reasons to do it, and the only thing standing in the way is some silly morals. #thebox
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Guess who the random stranger is that's going to die when THEY press the button?
Oh, but you don't know that in advance! It turns out that the Box is just a clever system for ridding humanity of shit-heads. #thebox
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It's the golden rule, easiest to follow of them all. #thebox
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Unless you go by the theory that it's only illegal if you get caught. Because really, there will be zero evidence linking you to the murder. #thebox
10/19/09
The answer to the second question is slightly more complex. I am not entirely sure, but I believe that if someone tells you they're going to kill someone if you do something, and you do it anyway, you aren't still liable for this person's death. In this case, the murder probably wouldn't technically be illegal, because I think that the box itself doesn't kill anyone--if you press the button, the organization that gave you the box kills them.
Though, if the box did indeed kill a random stranger when you pressed the button, then yes, you would be legally guilty of murder. #thebox
10/19/09
Villain X: You have a CHOICE, Amazo-Man! Save your love, or save the 20 people on the bus. Either way, I kill one when you save the other! MUA HA HA! Its all on you!
Amazo-Man: Actually, at any moment, you could, you know, just NOT kill either group. Its really up to you, not me, what happens.
Villain X: Oh, errm, right. #thebox
10/19/09
Of course, if they never really gave you a meaningful choice, or if it was a matter of "person A dies *or* person B dies," then it's rather different. Or if you had to do something immoral, or give up your own freedom, etc., etc., as an alternative. The exact situation matters. But if it's a matter of "push the button, and we'll give you money, but we promise you we will go out and kill someone too," then, though you aren't really a murderer by virtue of pushing the button, your decision and your actions still led to someone's death, and you, too, are responsible. And -- assuming you actually believe what the box-people told you -- you are a monster, since after all it would take a complete lack of compassion and empathy, and a complete disregard for the value of human life, to push the button in those circumstances.
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At any rate, that's not the point I was making at all. You got to the "terrorist is bad and it's their fault" bit, and I accept that, but then I sort of kept going. Having *accepted* that fact, assuming you are presented with an actual choice in which one alternative involves people dying and the other one does not involve anything particularly immoral, even if it is someone else who commits the murders, and even though they are horrible and totally at fault and could have chosen to talk things out etc., the decision that you make, and its consequences, must still lie on your conscience.
Remember, in this case the choice is apparently "don't push button and nothing at all happens whatsoever," or "push button and we give you money and kill people." In this situation, if you push the button, yes, you are at fault -- which in no way detracts from the fact that the terrorists actually carrying out the murders are totally at fault and bad and should have talked things out etc. Both things can be true.
Obviously if the options you are given are different this might not be the case, like if both are pretty horrible or if one of them demands you do something immoral/dangerous/unreasonable/that violates your basic rights to save people, etc. But then, I already said this. #thebox
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Obviously, the way that you make a movie out of it is that you have the people decide to find the guys that made the box and fight them, in an attempt to destroy the box forever.
Probably, those people are hiding behind a wall of water. On account of how secure such a hiding place would be. #thebox
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