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    Image of cjschmidt cjschmidt
    12/14/09

    In reply to Marvel: The First Hit Is Free (Or $1, At Most)
    I'd love to see the comic publishers keep a $1 series running monthly. Reprint older stories - get current fans into other books & bring in newbies. Anything that gets people back into comic shops regularly is good for the business.

    What I really want to know why DC and Marvel aren't jumping on ebooks. They are cheap to distribute and don't really compete against high quality printed material. Similar to those giant collections that just print the line art on cheap paper.
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    12/16/09

    @cjschmidt: Marvel is down like a clown with the ebooks. they have their Digital Comics you can subscribe to. i think the big thing holding all the publishers back from the portable ebook format is the lack of color display (yet)

    i'd also love to see affordably priced comics. i stopped buying them when i started moving around a lot, switching to TPBs. now whenever i got into a shop, it always makes me look twice at the cover prices. 5.00 for 18 pages of light dialogue? for the same price i could get a mass market paperback novel. this is their biggest problem that they need to overcome if they want new readers, and save their old ones. i still think the best way out is to go 100% OGN/TPB. that way, a new reader can pick up a whole story and read it rather than sampling the first few pages, waiting a month to get the next few, overpaying all the way, before they are finally let down six months later by a story that goes nowhere. And old readers as well as the new ones would all benefit from the lower prices that publishing in that format brings inherently.

    the cost of print comic serialization FAR outweighs it's novelty in today's world and undermines the industries wishes and hopes to someday be taken seriously by the outside world. If they want to be taken seriously as a publisher, than publish like a serious publisher, not a novelty company. They have to decide, are they making magazines, or are they publishing long form fiction?
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    Edited by Bootknife-Jackson at 12/16/09 12:06 AM Bootknife-Jackson was starred Bootknife-Jackson was unstarred
    Image of cjschmidt cjschmidt
    12/16/09

    @Bootknife-Jackson: I just saw the comic reader for PSP was released today. Seems like a much classier option than the "motion comics" that were being released. Hope there is an iPhone release in the near future (and that DC joins in the fun).

    My ideal situation is a large cheap color Kindle. I subscribe to my local newspaper, blogs, Green Lantern, Superman, etc and they just show up. If I really enjoy a series I can press a button and the tpb shows up at my door. If I could digitally subscribe to my favorite series for $1 an issue I can guarantee they'd get a lot more of my cash each month than they do now. Imagine the opportunities for indie/self publishers!

    We seem to be at a frustrating point where the tech is good enough that most of us know where it's going and are excited about the potential, but the technology is just taking too long to get here.

    2 years ago (when I got my Sony Reader) people would talk about "the smell of paper" and brush my gadget off as a novelty. Now, almost everyone I know has accepted the fact that iPhones and Kindles will replace the cheap mass-market paperback eventually. Even my mother has an ereader on her wishlist.
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    Image of Bootknife-Jackson Bootknife-Jackson
    12/16/09

    @cjschmidt: yeah i'd definitely like to get one. i think once the Apple Tablet comes out, that'll be a big push in the direction of mass adoption as well (as their track record shows. ipods, iphones, itunes, etc.)

    the big hold out is still the color display. and we do have the technology, but i think that it's still more cost effective to target the MMPB market, and really hone that 'like paper' feel in B/W first, before moving to incorporate color, if it's even compatible technology.

    maybe a big boon for that push will be to incorporate Manga, and some other B/W works of graphic fiction for the Kindle, etc.
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    Image of Byronotron Byronotron
    12/14/09

    In reply to Marvel: The First Hit Is Free (Or $1, At Most)
    i've thought the digital comics thing was pretty great, till they bumped up the price.
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    Image of submalst submalst
    12/14/09

    In reply to Marvel: The First Hit Is Free (Or $1, At Most)
    Its a good idea, but at the end of the day, comics are still way over priced considering you get maybe 20 pages with full size images taking up most pages.
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    Image of GreyHammer GreyHammer
    12/14/09

    @submalst: yeah i know what you mean. same reason i just HATE paintings. waste of money for one scene and it takes up the whole canvas. and it just sits on a WALL. pshhh
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    Image of Communist Pope Communist Pope
    12/14/09

    @GreyHammer: Comparing comics to paintings is no more equal than comparing comics to novels. Comics are a merger of art and words, and when you can read a comic in 5 minutes, don't get a complete story, and have to pay $3-$4 for it... yeah, they've become way overpriced.

    Not to mention that the number of comic artists who have the talent and/or time to match the level of artistry in even a decent painting is very small. (Though of course this is a matter of opinion.)

    But if you find modern comics to be a great or even fair value, good! No one's stopping you.
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    12/14/09

    @Communist Pope: Actually, the fact that they take oly 5 minute to read is an advantage rather than a detriment. Why? Because tit means you can re-read them way more often. How often do you re-read a book , compared to how often you re-read a comic?
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    Communist Pope promoted this comment collex was starred collex was unstarred
    Image of Communist Pope Communist Pope
    12/14/09

    @collex: No offense, but I don't see a five-minute read as a benefit. But I don't begrudge you for viewing it as such in the least.
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    Image of fudgenuts002 fudgenuts002
    12/14/09

    @GreyHammer: Except most paintings don't come with about 10 extra paintings of paid advertisements stapled to the frame. Comics are awfully expensive for an ad-supported medium.
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    Image of collex collex
    12/14/09

    @Communist Pope: Okay, 5-minutes is exagerated, I usally read those I read in 15 minutes. But I read comics exactly because they are fast to read. I read big, dense novel like everyone, and love them, but sometimes I just want to sit for an hour and read 5 issues of Tony Stark bashing his way trough rank-and-file minions. Or read the continuing adventure of Buffy.

    I do agree TPB is a better deal all-in-all. I buy most of my comics in TPB. But I get some monthly just for the fun of getting a small new piece of reading every two weeks.
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    Image of schrodingers-katana schrodingers-katana
    12/14/09

    In reply to Marvel: The First Hit Is Free (Or $1, At Most)
    Not a bad idea, Marvel. I got back into reading comics because of those little flip comics they had a few years back, which had two comics for a little over the price of one. It was Whedon's first issue of Astonishing and the decidedly more mediocre first part of New X-Men as I recall.
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    Image of BrendCh06 BrendCh06
    12/14/09

    @schrodingers-katana: New X-Men, is that the one with Armor?
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    schrodingers-katana promoted this comment BrendCh06 was starred BrendCh06 was unstarred
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    12/14/09

    @BrendCh06: I think she originated in Astonishing. New X-Men had Surge, Elixir, Hellion, etc. It wasn't that notable until Craig Kyle and Christ Yost took over.
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    12/15/09

    @schrodingers-katana: Wait, aren't you thinking of Academy X? I read New X-men, the series E for Extinction? Planet X? Great books.
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    Image of schrodingers-katana schrodingers-katana
    12/15/09

    @BrendCh06: Yeah, that might have helped clarify it better I suppose. I keep forgetting they used to call it that, as they dropped the sub-title when Kyle/Yost took over.
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    Image of BrendCh06 BrendCh06
    12/15/09

    @schrodingers-katana: Ahh I see. I think I might have stopped reading right before the switchover. Not because I didn't like the switch, just a coincidence.
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    Image of schrodingers-katana schrodingers-katana
    12/15/09

    @BrendCh06: It's definitely worth picking up, if you can. It sets up a lot of stuff that's going on now, especially in X-Force, like the X-Necrosha zombie craze cash-in event.
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    Image of BrendCh06 BrendCh06
    12/15/09

    @schrodingers-katana: I pretty much stopped paying attention to the X-Universe after the Messiah Complex, much happening?
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    Image of schrodingers-katana schrodingers-katana
    12/15/09

    @BrendCh06: To be honest, the only things really doing much for me are Matt Fraction's run on Uncanny and Peter David's incredible X-Factor (my favorite comic series currently). The former has easily supplanted post-Whedon Astonishing as the X-book of choice in my opinion. The latter is just all around great storytelling and good fun if you haven't read it yet, definitely one of the most under-rated titles in comics (and not just from Marvel, I'd say the title holds up to the best of any publisher period).
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    Image of atrus123 atrus123
    11/13/09

    In reply to Marvel Studios Gets New Co-President
    And here I thought it was going to be Tony Stark. #ironman
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    Image of burlybax burlybax
    11/13/09

    @atrus123: I think Marvel executives should be required to dress as Marvel characters to work everyday... Just picture a conference room with Iron Man, Wolverine, Captain America, Spiderman, and The Hulk, with Professor Xavier doing a presentation on 3rd quarter profits... #ironman
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    Image of Bootknife-Jackson Bootknife-Jackson
    11/13/09

    @burlybax: this is like my idea of forming The Drinking Avengers, where a bunch of people dress as marvel superheros and pub crawl all over town about once a month. in character. oh the battles we will have....

    what!? drinking is work! #ironman
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    Image of theblazeuk theblazeuk
    11/14/09

    @Bootknife-Jackson: We'd have to leave the wife-beater and the angry one out of the team, and it'd have to be Ultimate Iron Man if we were in character (teetotal Tony in 616 after all).

    Seriously though, that would be great. When leaving/drinking time arrived - "Avengers Assemble!". And if you have a designated driver, they have to be Jarvis.

    If only my geeky friends could drink, and if only my drinky friends were geeks. #ironman
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    11/14/09

    @theblazeuk: EXACTLY! well, if you're ever in portland oregon, drop by Avengers Mansion #ironman
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    Image of HowIsYourFlat HowIsYourFlat
    11/11/09

    In reply to 10 Favorite Faux Deaths In Science Fiction
    Spock death and resurrection was the best scene i remember. #startrek
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    Image of Wookie1972 Wookie1972
    11/14/09

    Another excuse for a youtube clip.. #startrek
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    Image of Wookie1972 Wookie1972
    11/09/09

    In reply to 10 Favorite Faux Deaths In Science Fiction
    Can't beleive I forgot Hank and Dean! #startrek
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    Image of tnmnsquare tnmnsquare
    11/09/09

    In reply to 10 Favorite Faux Deaths In Science Fiction
    So Boba Fett is the only Star Wars creation who simultaneously lives in and out of SW canon? #startrek
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    Image of Wookie1972 Wookie1972
    11/09/09

    @tnmnsquare: Schroedinger's Fett? #startrek
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    Image of LordMaim LordMaim
    11/14/09

    @Wookie1972: You don't know if he's alive or dead until you look inside the armor.

    ...of course these days, he could also be a zombie. Goddamn Star Wars. #startrek
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    Image of Wookie1972 Wookie1972
    11/14/09

    @LordMaim: Oh, goodness. I think the Death Troopers thing is the final straw for me and the Star Wars universe. I'm stuck with the name Wookie, however. #startrek
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    Image of crbuchleiter crbuchleiter
    11/08/09

    In reply to 10 Favorite Faux Deaths In Science Fiction
    Um, guys..... three words: Dr. Daniel Jackson (SG-1)
    How many times did he die to Ascend to the Asgard and be sent back for some reason or other. I think the final count was 5?

    The Borg Queen - Killed by Data in Star Trek: The First Contact, only to come back at some point during Star Trek: Voyager and fight Janeway.....several times.

    Captain Kirk - Died at the beginning of Star Trek:Generations when part of the starship he was on was ripped off by a strange magnetic wave. This wave is later identified as the Nexus, where he is found by Picard. He's then brought back from the Nexus to die because a bridge falls on him? How lame is that! Little known fact: when Kirk and Picard first stand on the bridge that is later Kirk's doom, Shatner ad-libbed "Captain on the bridge." When said bridge fell on Kirk, Shatner ad-libbed "Bridge on the Captain." Both lines were cut from the movie.

    Neo. - "I think you're waiting for something. Another life, perhaps."

    Agent Smith - "Were you listening to me just now, or were you looking at that lady in the red dress?"

    Juan Sanchez Villa-Lobos Ramirez (Highlander I & II) - Because you simply can't kill Sean Connery
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    Image of Lampbane Lampbane
    11/09/09

    @crbuchleiter:

    [en.wikipedia.org])#.22Deaths.22 #startrek
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    Image of tammygarrison tammygarrison
    11/09/09

    @Lampbane: He is kind of the Kenny of the Stargate universe, isn't he? #startrek
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    Image of Lampbane Lampbane
    11/09/09

    @tammygarrison: They were both gone for a season and only present as spiritual beings... #startrek
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    Image of thetieninja thetieninja
    11/08/09

    In reply to 10 Favorite Faux Deaths In Science Fiction
    No Fox Mulder? Shame
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    Image of gigshaft gigshaft
    11/08/09

    In reply to 10 Favorite Faux Deaths In Science Fiction
    I can't believe no one's mentioned Doctor Who. A franchise built entirely on the idea of the lead character's undeath. #startrek
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    Image of Discodave: R.O.A.C.H. M.O.T.E.L. Discodave: R.O.A.C.H. M.O.T.E.L.
    11/08/09

    @gigshaft: In fairness, that's probably because he hasn't died yet - the regeneration has (almost) always been part of the canon, so it's not like he's apparently died as William Hartnell and then been reborn next season as Patrick Troughton.

    I see where you're coming from, but this is too much of a cheating death device to be included as a faux death one, imho. #startrek
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    Image of Jesse Astle Jesse Astle
    11/09/09

    @Discodave: R.O.A.C.H. M.O.T.E.L.: He regenerates just before death, not after it. So technically it isn't coming back from the dead, its cheating death. All I'm saying is that somewhere out there, Death is waiting patiently next to his chess set. #startrek
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    Image of CarrerCrytharis CarrerCrytharis
    11/09/09

    @Discodave: R.O.A.C.H. M.O.T.E.L.: Well, he did suffer temporary death by alternate timeline that one time in Season 4 of the new series. #startrek
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    11/09/09

    @Discodave: R.O.A.C.H. M.O.T.E.L.: you can't make that argument if jean grey is on the list #startrek
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    11/09/09

    @CarrerCrytharis: I thought that was more using Donna's potential life to power something nebulous that I never quite understood, more than the Doctor actually dying? #startrek
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    @Jesse Astle: Um, isn't that what I said? #startrek
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    @whormongr: Well, I sort of can in that the Doctor never actually died and it was never assumed he had - unlike Jean Grey both in the comic and the film (before the retcon). #startrek
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    Image of CarrerCrytharis CarrerCrytharis
    11/09/09

    @Discodave: R.O.A.C.H. M.O.T.E.L.: Whatever the reason for trapping her in an alternate timeline, the result was that for several months, the Doctor was well and truly dead. (Donna went back and reset the timeline later on, thereby undoing the death. I think that counts, especially if we also have Superboy-Prime punching a wall on this list.) #startrek
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    11/08/09

    In reply to 10 Favorite Faux Deaths In Science Fiction
    Re-naming this thread "There's Something About Kenny" in honor of the most-dead cartoon character ever. Even if I hate the show, Kenny has the title. #startrek
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    11/08/09

    In reply to 10 Favorite Faux Deaths In Science Fiction
    On the topic of resurrection, has anyone else been keeping track of how many times Sam and Dean die in Supernatural? I watched it once, then re-watched them with my husband (had to introduce him to the show because of the cars and music) and the second time through I almost fell out of my chair laughing every time a Winchester died. It's like a drinking game. #startrek
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    Image of Dr Emilio Lizardo Dr Emilio Lizardo
    11/08/09

    In reply to 10 Favorite Faux Deaths In Science Fiction
    How about Jadzia Dax and her reincarnation as Ezri? Does that count? #startrek
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    Image of geesejuggler geesejuggler
    11/08/09

    In reply to 10 Favorite Faux Deaths In Science Fiction
    I showed this article to my mom and sister, which then launched into this arguement on whether or not Spock actually died. This is, of course, after the long lecture from my mom on why time travel is implausible and sucks as a story line. Having a geek family is a two-edged sword.

    *Update: Does Deadpool and/or Anyone from Smallvile count?
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