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    If Cavemen Wrote Pessimistic Science Fiction, We'd Never Get Anywhere

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    Image of Raw_fishFood Raw_fishFood
    10/05/09

    In reply to If Cavemen Wrote Pessimistic Science Fiction, We'd Never Get Anywhere
    I am very happy to see Dresden Codak get a mention on io9. It's been one of my favorite webcomics since I first found it. Now if it could just be updated a little more regularly...
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    10/05/09

    @Raw_fishFood: Agreed. We demand more genius!
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    Image of Anekanta - killed by a cacodemon Anekanta - killed by a cacodemon
    10/05/09

    In reply to If Cavemen Wrote Pessimistic Science Fiction, We'd Never Get Anywhere
    Lame. The cautionary tale in science fiction is there for a reason--quite often people DO go too far; because they didn't consider the potential consequences of their actions.

    You may not think so if you believe in the bizarre mixture of Christianity and science, prevalent in Western culture, that says that mankind's role is to dominate nature, especially since nature is seen as a commodity to be manipulated rather than an end in itself.

    But such a worldview not only justifies the ways we dominate each other as well as nature, it is also unsustainable in the long-term.
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    Image of deworde deworde
    10/05/09

    @Anekanta: Things that are also unsustainable in the long-term:
    Breathing
    Sapience
    The existence of life
    The expansion of the universe, and thus all physical laws
    Everything man is capable of understanding

    People who long for a simpler way of life generally fail to adequately grasp the staggering amount of things we would lose by going back to that life. They remember the farms, without remembering the wars.
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    Image of bakana bakana
    10/05/09

    @deworde: I, too, am glad that there are no more wars (or farms) in the world.
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    Anekanta promoted this comment bakana was starred bakana was unstarred
    Image of Anekanta - killed by a cacodemon Anekanta - killed by a cacodemon
    10/05/09

    @deworde: No one said we had to give up understanding. We just have to think before we act, and not treat the world around us as if it's all here for our own amusement.

    However, technology has certainly not eliminated war--it's only made it more bloody and apocalyptic.

    The main historical uses of technology, as you yourself pointed out, are drawing more resources from the land (through agriculture), and/or taking resources from your neighbours by force--i.e. war.

    The most technologically primitive (stone-age) societies on the Earth are also the most peaceful. So maybe there's an inverse relationship, or no relationship at all, between technological advancement and social development / maturity.
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    Image of Cory Gross Cory Gross
    10/05/09

    @Anekanta: Tisk Anekanta! You forget that unless you're pro-Atomic War, you must want to live in a cave. Those are the only options. There can be no inbetween.
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    Image of RICoder RICoder
    10/05/09

    In reply to If Cavemen Wrote Pessimistic Science Fiction, We'd Never Get Anywhere
    Am I the only one who thinks the creator of this strip is trying REALLY HARD to artificially create a MEME?

    Maybe am pesimist...
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    braak promoted this comment RICoder was starred RICoder was unstarred
    Image of braak: You are, as usual, completely correct. braak: You are, as usual, completely correct.
    10/05/09

    @RICoder: Yes.

    It's obvious to the rest of us that he's actually just lampooning the fact that most science-fiction "cautionary tales" have the same two conclusions.
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    Edited by braak: You are, as usual, completely correct. at 10/05/09 11:16 AM braak: You are, as usual, completely correct. was starred braak: You are, as usual, completely correct. was unstarred
    Image of braak: You are, as usual, completely correct. braak: You are, as usual, completely correct.
    10/05/09

    @RICoder: Yes.
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    Image of RandomFrequentFlierDent RandomFrequentFlierDent
    10/05/09

    In reply to If Cavemen Wrote Pessimistic Science Fiction, We'd Never Get Anywhere
    While the Caveman Science Fiction is hilarious by itself, I'd like to thank you io9 for leading me to this.

    [dresdencodak.com]

    "You just got Huxxed"

    (The Huxleys are one of my favourite families containing numerous illustrious individuals)
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    Edited by RandomFrequentFlierDent at 10/05/09 10:07 AM RandomFrequentFlierDent was starred RandomFrequentFlierDent was unstarred
    Image of Smeagol92055 Smeagol92055
    10/05/09

    In reply to If Cavemen Wrote Pessimistic Science Fiction, We'd Never Get Anywhere
    Dresden Codak on io9! Sweet!

    Actually, now I'm trying to remember if it was io9 that originally turned me on to his work. Which came first, the sci-fi blog or the posthuman polymorphic comic series?

    The world may never know.
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    Image of OW-Holmes:Bringer of Fear OW-Holmes:Bringer of Fear
    10/05/09

    In reply to If Cavemen Wrote Pessimistic Science Fiction, We'd Never Get Anywhere
    And that is why I dont use toilets.
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    Image of Gospel X Gospel X
    10/05/09

    In reply to If Cavemen Wrote Pessimistic Science Fiction, We'd Never Get Anywhere
    This was great, but there definitely needs to be one about pursuing the sciences in general versus just accepting nature for what it is.
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    Image of Smeagol92055 Smeagol92055
    10/05/09

    @Gospel X: You should seriously link to the website, then. His work is absolutely brain-meltingly awesome.
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    Image of Nivenus Nivenus
    10/05/09

    In reply to If Cavemen Wrote Pessimistic Science Fiction, We'd Never Get Anywhere
    That's both funny and accurate. I've really gotten fed up with the anti-technology vibe that seems to be popular recently (BSG, anyone?).

    The author is right on.
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    Image of Motoki Motoki
    10/05/09

    In reply to If Cavemen Wrote Pessimistic Science Fiction, We'd Never Get Anywhere
    Bwahaha! Someone needs to send this to Ron Moore.
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    Image of Rasselas Rasselas
    10/05/09

    In reply to If Cavemen Wrote Pessimistic Science Fiction, We'd Never Get Anywhere
    Me build calculating machine, ease human burdens. Me bombed by Skynet!
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    Image of acrobatic rabbit acrobatic rabbit
    10/05/09

    In reply to If Cavemen Wrote Pessimistic Science Fiction, We'd Never Get Anywhere
    haha.. caveman humor never fails. ME AM PLAY GODS!
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    Image of MinervaAlpaca MinervaAlpaca
    10/05/09

    In reply to If Cavemen Wrote Pessimistic Science Fiction, We'd Never Get Anywhere
    A cautionary tale for us all . . .
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    Image of Jesse Mrozowski Jesse Mrozowski
    10/05/09

    In reply to If Cavemen Wrote Pessimistic Science Fiction, We'd Never Get Anywhere
    That was f'n brilliant. ME AM PLAY GODS will now forever be in my lexicon.
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    Image of braak: You are, as usual, completely correct. braak: You are, as usual, completely correct.
    10/05/09

    In reply to If Cavemen Wrote Pessimistic Science Fiction, We'd Never Get Anywhere
    2 pts for Dresden Codak. Where are Dungeons and Discourses!?!?!?
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    Image of DrMathochist DrMathochist
    10/05/09

    @braak: Oh, another installment of actual DC stuff will take six months as usual.
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    Image of NotGodot NotGodot
    10/05/09

    In reply to If Cavemen Wrote Pessimistic Science Fiction, We'd Never Get Anywhere
    A good dresden codak? holy crap!

    Huh. It doesn't seem to have his male gazey author self-insert. I wonder if there's a connection...
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    Image of Smeagol92055 Smeagol92055
    10/05/09


    @NotGodot:
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    Image of braak: You are, as usual, completely correct. braak: You are, as usual, completely correct.
    10/05/09

    @Smeagol92055: heheheh. I love that guy.
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    braak: You are, as usual, completely correct. was starred braak: You are, as usual, completely correct. was unstarred
    Image of Smeagol92055 Smeagol92055
    10/05/09

    @braak: Just doing my job.
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    Image of crashedpc - Haifisch crashedpc - Haifisch
    10/05/09

    @braak: Oh, Donald.
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