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    Del Toro's The Strain May Come to TV After All

    Steampunk Brothel Spies And Million-Year Quests, In June Books

    How Fox Ruined del Toro's "The Wire With Vampires" Pitch

    Guillermo Del Toro's The Strain Is An Antidote To Fey Vampires
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    Image of Mike Byhoff Mike Byhoff
    07/30/09

    In reply to Del Toro's The Strain May Come to TV After All
    This looks overstylized and awful. What a disappointment. The books had so much promise to do something really groundbreaking on film, and these just look campy, tired, faux-epic, and predictable.
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    07/30/09

    In reply to Del Toro's The Strain May Come to TV After All
    They should make a 24-style show, but with vampire zombies!! Apocalypse in real time, that's what turns people on.
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    Image of tetracycloide tetracycloide
    07/30/09

    In reply to Del Toro's The Strain May Come to TV After All
    it seems like every pitch to fox execs inevitably ends with them requesting it be rewritten as a comedy.
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    Image of bililoquy bililoquy
    07/30/09

    In reply to Del Toro's The Strain May Come to TV After All
    This was really a pretty poor novel. Some of the folklorish flashback bits (obviously Del Toro's) were all right, but the plot was tired and the characters flat. No desire to read two more books or watch a TV show.

    For all the marketing push it got, I don't think the book has sold terribly well either...
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    Image of smirkette smirkette
    07/30/09

    In reply to Del Toro's The Strain May Come to TV After All
    It was certainly a decent read, but like @geeky_reader, it didn't live up to my expectations. Del Toro's movies show a really unique aesthetic which doesn't show up quite so much in the novel. It is, however, a good antidote to sparkly and/or angst-ridden vampire stories, though. Not sure I'll read the next two books.
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    Image of tetracycloide tetracycloide
    07/30/09

    @smirkette: currently the list of authors i think could bring del toro's aesthetic to life with mere words is one name long: China Miéville.
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    Image of Julius Seizure - Gall Bladder Free Julius Seizure - Gall Bladder Free
    07/30/09

    In reply to Del Toro's The Strain May Come to TV After All
    Don't throw things, please, but I didn't get more than 50 pages into the book before I gave up.

    I found his writing style too heavy-handed - spelling things out for my in GIANT lettering: "knew something in there wanted to eat her" or "souls. we used to call them souls". After about a dozen of these I went on to a Greg Bear.

    That said, would I watch a movie or tv show based on the books? Yes, of course. Now that I reflect, maybe my fault with the book was that it was too cinematic and written with the thought of how it would look rather than how it'd feel.
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    Image of Mike Byhoff Mike Byhoff
    07/30/09

    @Julius Seizure. (the CANUCK one): It's basically The Da Vinci Code with vampires. Once I thought of it that way, I turned my brain off and enjoyed the ride.
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    Image of Grey_Area Grey_Area
    07/30/09

    @Mikey-B: That's really the only way to get through that book. Cheap dopey fun. So of course it'll be a TV show.
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    Image of geeky_reader geeky_reader
    07/30/09

    In reply to Del Toro's The Strain May Come to TV After All
    I liked The Strain, but only liked. I'll read the next 2 simply out of curiousity. I don't know, I guess I was just expecting more. To feel wowed, scared, to be creeped out as soon as I turned off the lights for bedtime. None of that really happened.

    I often really get into a book, to the point where my soul is invested. Sadly, it didn't happen with The Strain.
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    Alasdair5000 promoted this comment Edited by geeky_reader at 07/30/09 8:07 AM geeky_reader was starred geeky_reader was unstarred
    Image of FakingThroughLife FakingThroughLife
    07/30/09

    In reply to Del Toro's The Strain May Come to TV After All
    I don't remember the anal parasites in the book. Weren't they just parasites in general?
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    Image of Neiten Neiten
    07/30/09

    @FakingThroughLife: I'm sure there was a scene where a woman killed her former abusive husband in the attic. There was a pretty detailed description of the parasite crawling up her leg and entering her body via the rectum.
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    Image of Grey_Area Grey_Area
    07/30/09

    @Isharik: That was the scene.
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    Image of MonkeyT MonkeyT
    07/30/09

    In reply to Del Toro's The Strain May Come to TV After All
    I don't ever want to see the words "anal parasites" and "comedy" in the same paragraph again.
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    Image of tetracycloide tetracycloide
    07/30/09

    @MonkeyT: didn't you see dreamcatcher?
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    Image of MonkeyT MonkeyT
    07/30/09

    @tetracycloide: Yeah, but I can laugh at the term "shit-weasel".
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    Image of disatess disatess
    07/30/09

    In reply to Del Toro's The Strain May Come to TV After All
    Good ,we need real vampire horror , not

    whiney love triangle / buffy crap .

    serious horror.
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    Image of bamboompvk bamboompvk
    07/30/09

    In reply to Del Toro's The Strain May Come to TV After All
    I will watch anything with del Toro's name on it. I will also watch anything with vampires in it. I am now very excited.
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    Image of ticktockman ticktockman
    06/27/09

    In reply to Steampunk Brothel Spies And Million-Year Quests, In June Books
    I like the reviews here, too. If I want to know what Tor is putting out then I can look at the Tor website, or at the sci-fi section at the borders down the street. There's no good independent bookstore in town here for sci-fi, so all I see on the big book chain shelves are novels by Bujold--who I like, don't get me wrong--and Mcaffery and stack upon stack of awful licensed books. I'm more interested in reading about books I might not find on my own and in new editions of works by older writers that I might not see sitting on the shelf of a book store (Jack Vance, here I come).
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    Image of ticktockman ticktockman
    06/27/09

    @ticktockman: It seems my newborn son disagrees. He vomited all over me just as I finished writing that last post.
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    Image of Evil Tortie's Mom: R.O.A.C.H. Evil Tortie's Mom: R.O.A.C.H.
    06/27/09

    @ticktockman: Your kid won't be a hipster then. WTF are you feeding him?
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    Image of secretmission secretmission
    06/26/09

    In reply to Steampunk Brothel Spies And Million-Year Quests, In June Books
    David Hartwell's Year's Best SF 14 is even better than Dozois' anthologies...
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    Image of Franknbeans Franknbeans
    06/27/09

    @secretmission: Nope, wrong. All the best stories of the year are repeated in both anthologies, but Hartwell's unique picks are uniformly sub-par. Plus Dozois has more bang for your buck, more stories equals more enjoyment
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    Image of Evil Tortie's Mom: R.O.A.C.H. Evil Tortie's Mom: R.O.A.C.H.
    06/27/09

    @Franknbeans: Exactly. Dozois picks better quality and a wider variety. Always has.
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    Image of AileenPaterculus AileenPaterculus
    06/26/09

    In reply to Steampunk Brothel Spies And Million-Year Quests, In June Books
    I actually enjoy the way you guys do reviews because book specific sites and forums have always held tons of references for the less "arty" stuff. This site turns me on to stuff I wouldn't normally find that would fall through the cracks, and maybe I am just in tune with your style of hipster sci-fi lit, but your choices seem spot on to me.
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    Image of Grey_Area Grey_Area
    06/26/09

    @AileenPaterculus: "Hipster"? Ouch! well, as long as we are turning you on to stuff you like, cool.
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    Image of AlessandroGiraffe AlessandroGiraffe
    06/26/09

    In reply to Steampunk Brothel Spies And Million-Year Quests, In June Books
    The Strain sounds an awful lot like Scott Westerfeld's Peeps, with vampirism portrayed as a parisitic disease that threatens civilization.
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    Image of Grey_Area Grey_Area
    06/26/09

    @AlessandroGiraffe: The vampirisim as disease thing is hardly new and has been done better.
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