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Sounds a little like Abrams' Superman script or Aronofsky's Batman in terms of messing with the character. Why do screenwriters feel the need to put their own stamp on something iconic?
@Belabras: And Raimi Turned spiderman from a wise-cracking goof with occasional moments of seriousness into SPAWN/BATMAN with his constant brooding.
By the third movie I was waiting for the entire soundtrack to be replaced with Mcr and Spiderman to talk like he had smoked 3 packs a day for 35 years. Ugh. Mel Brooks had it right in spaceballs:
"Lone Starr: I wonder, will we ever see each other again?
Yogurt: Who knows? God willing, we'll all meet again in Spaceballs 2: The Search for More Money. "
@Belabras: I had a long and mostly pointless fanboy Fart/Rant about the spiderman films, Praising the effects and (most) of the casting (Topher Grace and Kirsten dunst???), and mostly making snide remarks about the overly-serious tone of the films when the marvel spiderman I grew up with was a wise-cracking everyman who tried to have a good atitude even when life was constantly crapping on him.
But this is the internet, as you say, and the internet is full of opinions. I still think there are very few good examples of Comic book movies, and spiderman excels visually but fails when it comes to being really faithful to the characters.
Back around '91, I was driving limousines, and one day I drove a guy named Terry Stewart, who was wearing a black satin jacket with a Spidey logo on it.
I said, "Lemme guess... you work for Marvel Comics?"
"Yeah, I've got the best job in the world: They let me run the place."
"Ohhh, cool! Honor to meet you..."
So we got to talking on the way to the airport, and he told me they had a Spider-Man movie coming out, and that Jim Cameron was gonna direct it. So I was excited to hear that.
Then I said, "Y'know what I'd really like to see him do—Iron Man! He'd be perfect for that!"
"Well, Iron Man's his favorite character, but we wanted him to do Spider-Man first."
@braak: You are, as usual, completely correct.: I agree that it sounds truly terrible, but I'd challenge you to read a script treatment from the 80's (and I'm sorry, that's what 1991 was) - even from someone you respected - that read much differently.
It was the language of the time, I think, entertainment-wise. This one probably sucked more than average, but I'd guess not appreciably so.
@phypidialown: You might as well ask if sexism still exists. Yes, it does. And though it shouldn't matter, gender is an issue. So the effects of our ingrained cultural sexism comes up in all kinds of pop culture mediums.
Yes, a man wrote Strangers in Paradise. Which was an independent comic. Not mainstream. It really does matter what Marvel or DC do when it comes to this.
What does it say about me that I liked the mating ritual part? I know, I know, it would have been terrible but I kind of want Cameron to film just that scene.
@Dr.Quatermass Sc.D: Purveyor of Truth, Disseminator of Lies: Gosh, I think they missed a bet by not including "real" spider attributes in Spider Hyphen Man. Can't you just see Maguire doing the "Spider Dance" around Dunst, thrusting his arms in the air with sexy Jazz Hands? How's about anatomically correct webbing (since they went the biological route) and Spidey would swing through Manhattan from a string he shouts out his butt?
My god, the possibilities.
@ultra76: According to the great book Greatest Sci Fi Movies Never Made, the "scriptment" was well known enough that the organic web-shooters thing came from it.
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She's, like, Buffy of the Marval world.
(and, in some ways, Dan Slotts She Hulk run was more like Buffy in tone then Buffys season8 comic).
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By the third movie I was waiting for the entire soundtrack to be replaced with Mcr and Spiderman to talk like he had smoked 3 packs a day for 35 years. Ugh. Mel Brooks had it right in spaceballs:
"Lone Starr: I wonder, will we ever see each other again?
Yogurt: Who knows? God willing, we'll all meet again in Spaceballs 2: The Search for More Money. "
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I'm one of those rare birds on the interweb who will admit to liking the 3rd movie, so I'm really not with you on this rant. Sorry.
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But this is the internet, as you say, and the internet is full of opinions. I still think there are very few good examples of Comic book movies, and spiderman excels visually but fails when it comes to being really faithful to the characters.
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I said, "Lemme guess... you work for Marvel Comics?"
"Yeah, I've got the best job in the world: They let me run the place."
"Ohhh, cool! Honor to meet you..."
So we got to talking on the way to the airport, and he told me they had a Spider-Man movie coming out, and that Jim Cameron was gonna direct it. So I was excited to hear that.
Then I said, "Y'know what I'd really like to see him do—Iron Man! He'd be perfect for that!"
"Well, Iron Man's his favorite character, but we wanted him to do Spider-Man first."
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"I love you baby but don't look at me while I cum inside you"
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It was the language of the time, I think, entertainment-wise. This one probably sucked more than average, but I'd guess not appreciably so.
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Yes, a man wrote Strangers in Paradise. Which was an independent comic. Not mainstream. It really does matter what Marvel or DC do when it comes to this.
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For lack of a better word, it's boner-rific.
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My god, the possibilities.
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"Hey look. It's Peter Parker popping a zit. For five minutes. This movie sucks."
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