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    Image of SJ_Edwards SJ_Edwards
    05:03 PM

    In reply to 10 Favorite Faux Deaths In Science Fiction
    Allison (Young) from Palmdale.
    Died: 2026
    Undied: altered future 2007-2026
    Cause of death: Trachea crushed after interrogation by Terminator Cameron, ostensibly for failure-to-cooperate in an attempt to kill 2026 John Connor.
    Does it count as death: "Apparently not".....

    Allison's failure-to-cooperate was a self-sacrificial attempt to save John Connor in 2026.
    Which may or may not have worked.
    Terminator Cameron was caught, whilst attempting to kill John, scrubbed and sent back to 1999 to find John and jump him forward to 2007.
    2007 John and Cameron caused the removal from Depot 37 of the Coltan that Terminator Cameron would have been built from, at Depot 37 in 2026, thus preventing Cameron from existing in 2026 and killing Allison. Thus establishing a future where Allison continues to live.
    Later John jumps from 2009 to this 2026.
    Thus establishing a future where no John Connor had existed since 2009 because he had jumped out of its past.
    So John and Allison then exist together again in an altered future 2026.

    Cameron's chipless endoskeleton is left back in this future's 2009 past, along with the physical Turk/John Henry AI (which may have merged with Cameron's chip either just prior to the jump or earlier when Cameron's chip briefly merged with the (Crom?)ARTIE traffic control network) and Sarah Connor.
    Cameron's chip (+AI?) is in Cromartie's endoskeleton along with Terminator Catherine Weaver in this future, with a live Kyle Reese and Uncle Derek Reese,
    who.....
    Died: 2009
    Undied: altered future 2009-2026
    Cause of death: "Bullet to the brainpan, squish."
    Does it count as death: Every death counts. #startrek
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    Image of Im_your_Huckleberry Im_your_Huckleberry
    05:11 PM

    @SJ_Edwards: Better take some Tylenol after all of that. Damn, my head hurts just reading all of that. #startrek
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    Image of SJ_Edwards SJ_Edwards
    05:19 PM

    @Im_your_Huckleberry: I did my best to shorten and simplify it :)
    I suspect that Season 3 of TSCC may have been more complicated...... #startrek
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    Image of Im_your_Huckleberry Im_your_Huckleberry
    05:30 PM

    @SJ_Edwards: Yea, most series hit their stride in their third season. Look at Heroes........wait...... crap, tried to keep a straight face. :)
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    Edited by Im_your_Huckleberry at 11/08/09 5:31 PM Im_your_Huckleberry was starred Im_your_Huckleberry was unstarred
    Image of TrueCrime TrueCrime
    03:43 PM

    In reply to 5 Comics You're Not Reading (But Should Be)
    Thanks for giving Locke &Key the credit it deserves. It's a fantastic, creepy story, and the second volume was one of the trippiest thing's I've read in a while.

    I've been thinking of picking up Hill's fiction now. Is Heart-Shaped Box worth reading? #5comicsyoushouldbereading
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    Image of Wookie1972 Wookie1972
    03:21 PM

    In reply to 10 Favorite Faux Deaths In Science Fiction
    Oh, and what about the original oh-sh*t-he's-still-popular-so-I-have-to-bring-...: Sherlock Holmes? Not sci-fi at all, but still genre. #startrek
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    Image of Wookie1972 Wookie1972
    02:57 PM

    In reply to 10 Favorite Faux Deaths In Science Fiction
    Oh, and on the subject of Batman, what about Alfred? #startrek
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    Image of Wookie1972 Wookie1972
    02:51 PM

    In reply to 10 Favorite Faux Deaths In Science Fiction
    Um, wasn't the whole "Phoenix force was never really Jean Grey" Thing a big ol' Retcon in the first place? That was pretty much the moment I stopped caring about Marvel comics, especially since Jim Shooter was all sanctimonious about how Phoenix "had to die." #startrek
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    Image of Rocketknight Rocketknight
    02:43 PM

    In reply to 10 Favorite Faux Deaths In Science Fiction
    Every time I see shitty, ridiculous retcons that bring back characters, my desire to pay attention to the franchise starts to take a nosedive.

    For instance, I read on Wikipedia that Gwen Stacy dies in Ultimate Spider-Man, just like in the mainstream universe. Cool, right? I heard soon after that she was brought back. Now I have zero desire to read it past that point.

    I wish people would kill off their characters and leave them that way. DC and Marvel especially. #startrek
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    Image of Wookie1972 Wookie1972
    03:30 PM

    @Rocketknight: The trouble is that any given continuity can last, at beast, a few years. You can't have Peter Parker still haunted by the death of Gwen Stacy (or Uncle Ben, for that matter), when it in fact happened over 40 years ago. #startrek
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    Image of Rocketknight Rocketknight
    03:41 PM

    @Wookie1972: So don't have him haunted by the death for 40 years. Have him get the hell over it and show him enter a new phase in his life. Or better yet, finish up the character's story and move on to a new franchise!

    But that would be asking too much. #startrek
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    Image of Lassus Lassus
    02:10 PM

    In reply to 10 Favorite Faux Deaths In Science Fiction
    I'd like to give the first book shout-out in this list to Bella Lind at the end of Pushing Ice by Alastair Reynolds.

    There's a quick revival technique established early in the book by an alien race, but Bella's takes about 20 years due to the severity of her injuries. She's not even fully her, making the revival actually somewhat logical. #startrek
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    Image of icelight icelight
    04:46 PM

    @Lassus: No, that doesn't count, because the entire ending to that book was utterly worthless. It was very much still in Reynolds "I couldn't write and ending of a story to save my life" phase. Fortunately he's doing better now. #startrek
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    Image of Lassus Lassus
    04:56 PM

    @icelight: Well, I completely disagree in regards to your opinion on the ending (also, that book in actually in the latter part of his output, not the earlier), but considering the dreck of things like the ret-cons this article exposes it would most certainly count. #startrek
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    Image of icelight icelight
    05:01 PM

    @Lassus: No, I know where it is in his bibliography. (Right in the middle, counting collections of short stories.) I either didn't like, or actively hated, the ending of anything before The Prefect. The first 90% of his novels are great, just not how he wraps them up. But that's just me, of course. #startrek
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    02:07 PM

    In reply to 10 Favorite Faux Deaths In Science Fiction
    You could have made an equal list from the buffyverse. #startrek
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    Image of AmishJohn AmishJohn
    04:39 PM

    @Davio: And the Heroverse... #startrek
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    Image of Discodave: R.O.A.C.H. M.O.T.E.L. Discodave: R.O.A.C.H. M.O.T.E.L.
    01:26 PM

    In reply to 10 Favorite Faux Deaths In Science Fiction
    What about Whistler from Blade? Definitely, categorically dead (though offscreen) in the first, then appears as if by magic in the second. And let's not even go there with his having a daughter he never mentioned in the first two films... #startrek
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    Image of GreyHammer GreyHammer
    01:42 PM

    @Discodave: R.O.A.C.H. M.O.T.E.L.: they explained why he came back in the second tehy turned him into a vampire to spite him.

    also i think he wanted to keep his hot daughter away from blade. he was a closet racist.
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    Edited by GreyHammer at 11/08/09 1:43 PM GreyHammer was starred GreyHammer was unstarred
    Image of Bill-Lee Bill-Lee
    01:15 PM

    In reply to 10 Favorite Faux Deaths In Science Fiction
    John Sheridan doesn't even die after using up the 20 years of life given to him by Lorien -- he pulls a Frodo and is taken beyond the Galactic Rim by the First Ones. #startrek
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    01:08 PM

    In reply to 10 Favorite Faux Deaths In Science Fiction
    When it comes to Boba Fett, I think I accept the movie version of his death over Dark Empire's, although the idea that the sarlacc couldn't digest Fett was kind of funny. #startrek
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    Image of Wookie1972 Wookie1972
    02:53 PM

    @Bill-Lee: I really, really am trying not to be so bitter and such a nay-sayer, but doesn't anybody else think Boba Fett is the most overrated character ever? #startrek
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    Image of Bill-Lee Bill-Lee
    03:32 PM

    @Wookie1972: Yeah, he is pretty overrated. He's on screen for all of 15 mins. in the entire original trilogy and is killed accidentally by blind Han Solo. I think there is one cool moment involving Boba Fett and that's when Vader is talking to the bounty hunters and he specifically tells Fett, "No disintegrations". That implies that Fett is this huge badass...killed by someone accidentally setting off his jetpack.
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    Edited by Bill-Lee at 11/08/09 3:36 PM Bill-Lee was starred Bill-Lee was unstarred
    Image of bookling bookling
    03:49 PM

    @Wookie1972: I think the allure of Boba Fett was that oooh, he's a BOUNTY HUNTER and he wears a helmet so we never see his FACE, and he never TALKS, isn't he MYSTERIOUS? But yeah, pretty overrated, especially considering the only way he could catch Han was with Vader's help. #startrek
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    Image of OW-Holmes:Bringer of Fear OW-Holmes:Bringer of Fear
    12:47 PM

    In reply to 10 Favorite Faux Deaths In Science Fiction
    Where does Jason Todd go to unwind?

    A crow-bar. #startrek
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    Image of LoganAdams LoganAdams
    12:36 PM

    In reply to 10 Favorite Faux Deaths In Science Fiction
    Is anyone else left with this unquenchable desire to just call "Bullshit" on the entire science-fiction-industrial complex for all this? Doesn't it get old to have these characters killed, brought back, and re-killed all the blasted time just so the characters' creators can trick us all out of more of our money and time?

    Anyone? #startrek
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    Image of OW-Holmes:Bringer of Fear OW-Holmes:Bringer of Fear
    12:54 PM

    @LoganAdams: It definitely cuts any kind of drama out of the deaths. When Captain America "died" people who knew comics didn't even blink.

    The worse part about this is the ridiculous retcons. Seriously DC, Superboy punches on reality and that fixes everything? Why even explain it when it is just that nonsensical?

    Venture Bros. desperately needs to parody this. Just bring back Dr. Dugong and don't try to explain it at all. #startrek
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    Image of Byronotron Byronotron
    12:24 PM

    In reply to 10 Favorite Faux Deaths In Science Fiction
    I think Star Wars fandom has come back around on itself and the true fanboys just wish he had never made the damn movies in the first place. Ouroboros. #startrek
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    Image of Cash907Censored Cash907Censored
    12:09 PM

    In reply to 5 Comics You're Not Reading (But Should Be)
    What was the name of that comic you guys were talking up awhile ago, the one with the girl who gets hit with fragments of an exploded military armor suit, that turns her into this witchblade knockoff? Was looking for it the other day, but couldn't remember the name of it for the life of me. #5comicsyoushouldbereading
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    Image of TrueCrime TrueCrime
    03:38 PM

    @Cash907Censored: Pretty sure that's Echo, by Terry Moore. #5comicsyoushouldbereading
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