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    Image of eviladrian eviladrian
    07/20/09

    In reply to Babbage and Lovelace Fight Crime with the Power of Math
    I sometimes wonder about people like Babbage, who feature heavily in alternate-history novels.
    Does living all those possible lives wear them out? A sort of fatigue of the soul?
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    Image of Grey_Area Grey_Area
    07/20/09

    @eviladrian: Oh wow, what a cool concept! Imagine what would happen to Hitler's shriveled black little soul. Or any number of American Civil War figures.
    "All the Myriad Ways" by Niven sort of touches on this but not in a metaphysical manner. You should write something up with this.
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    Image of eviladrian eviladrian
    07/20/09

    @Grey_Area: I don't know that I have the vocabulary to properly express what I see in my head-movies, but when you're dead, how do you know who you are except as people remember you?
    And if everyone remembers you differently, might you not get stretched out like a sunbeam through a prism, all the colours going separate?
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    Image of Grey_Area Grey_Area
    07/20/09

    @eviladrian: Homes, you are not convincing me on the lack of vocab with that last comment.
    Work it out. You got the words, you got the ideas. Grab a style manual to get the grammar and shit down and go to town...
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    Image of rotwang rotwang
    07/21/09

    @eviladrian: "When you're dead, how do you know who you are except as people remember you?"

    There you go - you've started to write the pitch for the novel already!
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    07/20/09

    In reply to Babbage and Lovelace Fight Crime with the Power of Math
    This is great stuff. Thanks, Lauren.
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    Edited by rotwang at 07/20/09 1:24 PM rotwang was starred rotwang was unstarred
    Image of braak:  You are, as usual, completely correct. braak: You are, as usual, completely correct.
    07/20/09

    In reply to Babbage and Lovelace Fight Crime with the Power of Math
    This looks really good.
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    Image of Grey_Area Grey_Area
    07/20/09

    In reply to Babbage and Lovelace Fight Crime with the Power of Math
    Great art! I like the expressions and loose brushstrokes that convey all the action and emotion so economically. The glimpse of Ms. Padua's creative process with accompanying chart on the Salamander page is priceless.
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    Image of Doctor Who? Doctor Who?
    07/20/09

    @Grey_Area: I'd have to agree. This is one of the better webcomics that I've seen recently, and the writing is pretty good as well.
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    Image of CoffinDodger (If the typos crap. Blame my keyboard) CoffinDodger (If the typos crap. Blame my keyboard)
    07/20/09

    In reply to Babbage and Lovelace Fight Crime with the Power of Math
    io9...With all this black and white artwork. You are really spoiling us!!
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    Image of twDarkflame twDarkflame
    12/08/08

    In reply to Empathic Virtual Humans will Pass the Voight-Kampff Test
    Recognising is far different from understanding.


    For some sentient being to have empathy they have to have the capacity to "emulate" what they think someone else's point of view will be.

    This requires both recognition AND the ability to expirence what is being recognised.


    I'm sure emotion-detection has some use's, but its not empathy in itself.

    Personaly, I'm highly skeptical of all forms of top-down AI development.

    I think our best bet for true self-aware bits of software, is to set up a suitable enviroment, and evolve nural-nets based on selective critera.

    (we can be a lot more focused then real evolution, and we can also overclock the speed of the simulated environment....we dont need to wait billions of years to get a result :p).

    A good start would be to train nural-net bots to navigate maze's, and allow the bots to communicate at a simerla datarate to us, to exchange data about the maze to eachother.

    Put selective critera so that the bots can get the most "food" (aka, most change of reproduction) if they work together.


    This does a double-wammy of helping to evolve creatures able to communicate AND teaching them to the very core that co-operation is a good thing.

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    Image of crashedpc - Haifisch crashedpc - Haifisch
    12/08/08

    @twDarkflame: Wait, why are you advocating the hastening of the downfall of the human race via sentient robots? ARE YOU A ROBOT?
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    Image of TheFaithfulStone TheFaithfulStone
    12/08/08

    In reply to Empathic Virtual Humans will Pass the Voight-Kampff Test
    But isn't the reason that humans "pass" the Voight-Kampf test is that they fail it?


    So Leon is distressed because he's not helping the tortoise, but Rachel can unflinchingly kill a wasp. Humans are the ones without empathy, and that's how you can tell them from the machines?


    I'd be worried if my Sims developed emotional responses. I'm not sure how I would react if someone made me sleep in the yard a in a puddle of my own urine, but I doubt it'd be good.

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    Image of B B
    12/08/08

    In reply to Empathic Virtual Humans will Pass the Voight-Kampff Test
    Wait, since I don't have empathy, that means I'm a robot?
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    Image of RAHfanboy RAHfanboy
    12/08/08

    @B: More likely a replicant.
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    Image of Mount_Prion Mount_Prion
    12/08/08

    In reply to Empathic Virtual Humans will Pass the Voight-Kampff Test
    ...so...my Sims will finally love me back?


    /wrists

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    Image of Belabras: now with Kung Fu grip! Belabras: now with Kung Fu grip!
    12/08/08

    In reply to Empathic Virtual Humans will Pass the Voight-Kampff Test
    Stay out of the Uncanny Valley folks. Pick a side and stick with it.
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    Image of crashedpc - Haifisch crashedpc - Haifisch
    12/08/08

    @Belabras: That's what I figure. Either hyper-realistic or super-stylized.
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    Image of crashedpc - Haifisch crashedpc - Haifisch
    12/08/08

    In reply to Empathic Virtual Humans will Pass the Voight-Kampff Test
    AHHHHH! AHHHH!!!!! It's not even at Uncanny Valley levels and AHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!! MELDED TEEF
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