@fraying: stay tuned... My theory is that the entire ood race is the Time Lords in disguise, through some process similar to the Chameleon Arch. and RtD has just been hiding them in plain sight for 4 years :). #doctorwho
@Dunny0: actually thats not a bad analogy for what i'm going at. think of the giant Ood Brain being whats keeping the Oods minds in check, unaware that they're actually the Time Lords so yea sort of like the matrix in a sense. then, their second brains/Translator Orbs could act as a sort of "Fob-watch" if the reference makes sense. but i'm just grasping at broken straws. it'd make for one hell of a reveal though. #doctorwho
@dethklokso: I was thinking more of "the matrix" as in the giant super-computer thinggie the Time Lords of the "classic" series had, not the franchise staring Theodore Logan.
Although the two did have their similarities, what with the virtual worlds and storage of consciousness. #doctorwho
@fraying: an Ood at the end told him again (First time was the psychic woman in Planet of the Dead) that his "song was coming to an end". He's seeing an Ood because he feels like he's getting closer to that #doctorwho
I found myself fast forwarding through 80 percent of it. It was just too heavy, especially after CoE. I did see RTD managed to shoehorn in another OMG-He-said-husband-instead-of-wife!!! moment. Ugh... could you be a little more hamfisted there Russ?
The Doctor needs Rose, or at least Donna. Watching him go through the universe on his own like this is breaking *my* heart. #doctorwho
I love Tennant's Doctor, but both this and the Pompeii episode pissed me off to no end with the whole pointless "this point is fixed, so I can't save you" malarkey.
Obviously, the Doctor can't save everybody he meets, but it should have been bloody obvious that grabbing a couple of survivors, and then plonking them down on a peaceful alien planet with an Earth-like atmosphere billions of light years and several thousand years away from their home wouldn't affect the timelines one jot.
Maybe it'd be different if it was the Titanic or the Hindenburg where there were bodies to recover, but a giant volcano or point-blank atomic explosion? No contest. Quit feeling so emo all the time and at least save the people in the same room with you. #doctorwho
@bluehinter: But what's the point of them living if they can't resume the life they leave behind? Billions of light years from home. Just a handful of people. I don't think that'd make a happy life anyway. #doctorwho
@Pessimippopotamus: It'd certainly be a tough choice, and not everyone would want to take it.
But given the choice between death by boiling lava, point-blank nuclear explosion, or a new existence on an alien world, I'd choose option C.
Of course, that's assuming the Doctor wasn't a total dick, and found them a planet that already had a friendly helpful population on it that didn't mind taking in a few strays, or one that was unusually idyllic, with plenty of food, moderate temperatures, and no large angry carnivores.
Also, if the Doctor has got off his ass a little earlier, he could have easily saved dozens of citizens from Pompeii, plus at least 5 of the Bowie Base crew. If the Doctor rescued everybody he could during these situations and plopped them all down on the same planet 5 minutes apart, they'd have a viable (if a bit unusual) community started by lunchtime! #doctorwho
@bluehinter: That was the first thought I had watching the episode. Why not play it like Millennium (the movie) and take everyone out of there and put them somewhere where they won't change the timestream? The base blew up, so it's not like anyone's going to notice there are no bodies. #doctorwho
i kept thinking, what would be happening if Donna had been there.
first of all, the tardis would have been closer to the station.
second, there would have been more humor.
third, she would have yelled at the universe and it would have listened.
fourth, the 27yo and nurse would have been orientated to the concept of time travel and spacial geometry.
fifth, it would have broken your heart even worse.
sixth, felspoon has mountains that sway in the breeze. mountains that move.
seventh, charlie chaplin.
eightth, did you see her face in the End of time Preview... omfg... she better not die.
great episode. definitely rewatchable. applying the 5 stages of Fanboy Grief. Knowing that Matt Smith is close and seeing Riversong in a preview picture, I am emotionally ready for that eventuality.
I forgive RTD and crew for Planet of the Dead and The New Doctor specials earlier this year. #doctorwho
@PostMarque: If Donna had been there, she'd be all "Screw Mars for a box of cornflakes, this is all boring rocks and shit. Let's go meet Marilyn Monroe. " And the Doctor would be like, "Well, okay I suppo--" and then they'd be gone. #doctorwho
I loved the part where she's giving the speech about time and all "No one should have that much power" and he just looks are her and says "TOUGH" I was ALL WHOA! #doctorwho
I'm wondering how much of Adelaide's suicide was righting the Doctor's wrong and how much of it was guilt - after all, the crew had been on Mars for years and Adelaide was clearly the matriarchal figure. She's watched her family die and survived them.
What's more, she's cheated death when she'd come to terms with it (and realised how important her life and death would be) and seen the rules - something she's been a stickler for - thwarted in the most contemptuous manner. Everything that gave her life meaning has been taken from her and the only way for her to regain it was to end her life on her terms.
What the Doctor sees through her actions is that he's almost destroyed the person he so admired - who had such a profound effect on humanity, his favourite species. That's what really gets him.
The great thing about this episode was that it felt like a classic Who set-up and carried on that way right up until the end when the Doctor says "sod it" and screws with what he holds most dear just to get his own way. And there was no bloody romance. #doctorwho
11/21/09
I am disappointed with the whole of creation.
I WANT THE DOCTOR!
the whoverse is propagating a culture of exclusion.
11/20/09
*Ahem* Clever use of the time gap to tie up loose ends.
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11/21/09
#tips
11/20/09
And yes Doctor, it was funny. Now give the Ood some warm mild with honey and tuck them into bed.
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11/17/09
#doctor whore cap
What does that say about me? #doctorwho
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Although the two did have their similarities, what with the virtual worlds and storage of consciousness. #doctorwho
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The Doctor needs Rose, or at least Donna. Watching him go through the universe on his own like this is breaking *my* heart. #doctorwho
11/16/09
Especially the "Life on Mars" gag. Cheeky! #doctorwho
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Obviously, the Doctor can't save everybody he meets, but it should have been bloody obvious that grabbing a couple of survivors, and then plonking them down on a peaceful alien planet with an Earth-like atmosphere billions of light years and several thousand years away from their home wouldn't affect the timelines one jot.
Maybe it'd be different if it was the Titanic or the Hindenburg where there were bodies to recover, but a giant volcano or point-blank atomic explosion? No contest. Quit feeling so emo all the time and at least save the people in the same room with you. #doctorwho
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But given the choice between death by boiling lava, point-blank nuclear explosion, or a new existence on an alien world, I'd choose option C.
Of course, that's assuming the Doctor wasn't a total dick, and found them a planet that already had a friendly helpful population on it that didn't mind taking in a few strays, or one that was unusually idyllic, with plenty of food, moderate temperatures, and no large angry carnivores.
Also, if the Doctor has got off his ass a little earlier, he could have easily saved dozens of citizens from Pompeii, plus at least 5 of the Bowie Base crew. If the Doctor rescued everybody he could during these situations and plopped them all down on the same planet 5 minutes apart, they'd have a viable (if a bit unusual) community started by lunchtime! #doctorwho
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11/17/09
Orville Redenbacher bowtie aside, his Doctor seems to be far more light-hearted and Troughton-y. #doctorwho
11/16/09
I flipped through a bunch of Doctor Who episodes to get my fix.
Fires of Pompeii was an option, but it was to similar. And I could have felt sad.
I landed on Turn Left.
Because she gets her Doctor back at the end. #doctorwho
11/16/09
She went to the same school as my sister.
Fuck, she got old!
*checks mirror*
"Nooooooo!" #doctorwho
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11/16/09
first of all, the tardis would have been closer to the station.
second, there would have been more humor.
third, she would have yelled at the universe and it would have listened.
fourth, the 27yo and nurse would have been orientated to the concept of time travel and spacial geometry.
fifth, it would have broken your heart even worse.
sixth, felspoon has mountains that sway in the breeze. mountains that move.
seventh, charlie chaplin.
eightth, did you see her face in the End of time Preview... omfg... she better not die.
great episode. definitely rewatchable. applying the 5 stages of Fanboy Grief. Knowing that Matt Smith is close and seeing Riversong in a preview picture, I am emotionally ready for that eventuality.
I forgive RTD and crew for Planet of the Dead and The New Doctor specials earlier this year. #doctorwho
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11/16/09
"donna, that wasn't edison"
"whatever space-man... can we go? i am not fitting into Rose's space suit." #doctorwho
11/16/09
They did say it was their last chance to send the Doctor on a silly fun romp. They weren't kidding. #doctorwho
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What's more, she's cheated death when she'd come to terms with it (and realised how important her life and death would be) and seen the rules - something she's been a stickler for - thwarted in the most contemptuous manner. Everything that gave her life meaning has been taken from her and the only way for her to regain it was to end her life on her terms.
What the Doctor sees through her actions is that he's almost destroyed the person he so admired - who had such a profound effect on humanity, his favourite species. That's what really gets him.
The great thing about this episode was that it felt like a classic Who set-up and carried on that way right up until the end when the Doctor says "sod it" and screws with what he holds most dear just to get his own way. And there was no bloody romance. #doctorwho