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    Image of Dresan Dresan
    12/09/09

    In reply to The Scariest Map Ever - At Least for Americans
    That was terrifying.
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    Image of Dr Emilio Lizardo Dr Emilio Lizardo
    12/09/09

    In reply to Future Hawaiian Cities Will Be Partly Underwater
    Two problems:
    One criticism of diets high in animal proteins is that we eat the animals who have to eat a large amount of vegetation which is wasteful as opposed to just eating the vegetation.

    Farmed fish are not as popular amongst environmentalist as you might think. Salmon, for instance, have been accused of affecting the population of wild salmon, being more contaminated (with PCB's for instance) since there dietmay be contaminated and they don't range as wide and are not as rich in Omega-3 FA's as wild.

    Funny, now this post looks like one where somebody complains that wind power turbines kill migrating birds.
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    Image of twophrasebark twophrasebark
    12/09/09

    In reply to Future Hawaiian Cities Will Be Partly Underwater
    "Future Hawaiian Cities Will Be Partly Underwater"

    That's good since the islands will probably be underwater anyway in a few decades.
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    Image of twophrasebark twophrasebark
    12/09/09

    I kid, actually. The islands are far above sea level. But the beaches are in danger.
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    Image of Ruthless, If you let me Ruthless, If you let me
    12/09/09

    In reply to Future Hawaiian Cities Will Be Partly Underwater
    Current Italian cities, er.. There's already a current Italian city partly under water. They don't have the farming down yet though.
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    Image of MargaretMoony MargaretMoony
    12/09/09

    @Ruthless, If you let me: But they have some bitching boats and glass!
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    Image of Anekanta - Go Play! Anekanta - Go Play!
    12/09/09

    In reply to The Scariest Map Ever - At Least for Americans
    Is it petty of me to blame this on the Bush administration?
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    Image of disatess disatess
    12/09/09

    @Anekanta - Go Play!: nope ,but he had help , but he opened the door or pandora`s box .
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    Image of Vulcan Has No Moon Vulcan Has No Moon
    12/09/09

    @disatess: Deregulation and cult-like worship of free markets and corporation really took off during Reagan.
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    12/09/09

    @Vulcan Has No Moon: agree ,but bush opened the other half of the gate .
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    Image of reddingofish reddingofish
    12/09/09

    In reply to The Scariest Map Ever - At Least for Americans
    Michigan and Mississippi were just screwed from the start.
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    12/09/09

    In reply to The Scariest Map Ever - At Least for Americans
    What's worse yet is that the unemployment figures aren't accurate. They only show the number of people currently drawing on unemployment and don't take into account the number of people that couldn't find a job since their unemployment has run out or that have been forced into taking two lower paying jobs and still can't make their bills.
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    Image of jabber jabber
    12/09/09

    @♠ Final ♠: You forgot those that just gave up looking for work so the percentage out of work is even higher. The number purportedly is around 17% give or take.
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    Image of ingenieur ingenieur
    12/09/09

    @♠ Final ♠: On the other hand, it doesn't account for recipients who shouldn't be receiving unemployment, e.g. people who don't need the $360/week or who are employed & get paid off the books. Lots of relatively wealthy layoffs & service industry workers take unemployment when they don't need it.
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    Image of Vulcan Has No Moon Vulcan Has No Moon
    12/09/09

    @♠ Final ♠: The unemployment rate doesn't count people who are under-employed (part-timers), or minors and students, or "discouraged workers", or those on unpaid leave, or certain family members who work in a family business, or people on furlough, or those in job training.

    Depending on the source, the real unemployment rate is probably between 18-20%.
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    Image of mxmarks mxmarks
    12/09/09

    In reply to The Scariest Map Ever - At Least for Americans
    From what I noticed, northern Alaska is the only area that seemed to go against the grain, as they started deep purple and ended up yellow.

    Just out of curiosity, any idea what happened up there in this span?
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    Image of redqueenmeg redqueenmeg
    12/09/09

    @mxmarks: Maybe people left?
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    Image of EugeniaBSG EugeniaBSG
    12/09/09

    @mxmarks: That's the North Slope where they extract oil. Besides the usual drilling operations, they've been doing a bunch of maintenance on the pipeline.

    They've had incentive since gas rose two years ago to $4.00 plus a gallon and never went back down to $1.25 a gallon.
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    Image of acrobatic rabbit acrobatic rabbit
    12/09/09

    In reply to The Scariest Map Ever - At Least for Americans
    it's like the plague. minus the "bring out yer dead!"
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    Image of Plague Plague
    12/09/09

    @acrobatic rabbit: I had nothing to do with it.
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    Image of Roklimber Roklimber
    12/09/09

    In reply to The Scariest Map Ever - At Least for Americans
    Thank you, George "Dubbia" B...
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    Image of tetracycloide tetracycloide
    12/09/09

    @Roklimber: honestly, the opinion that one man or even one public office, even the presidency, is solely responsible for this is part of the problem.
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    Image of Roklimber Roklimber
    12/09/09

    @tetracycloide: I don't think he alone is responsible, but his administration is, to a large extent. And since the president is "where the buck ends", it is not unreasonable to shorthand the blame to him.
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    Image of tetracycloide tetracycloide
    12/09/09

    @Roklimber: i think it would be more accurate to say that it's easier to consign the blame to a single individual or office; not only does that provide an effective rhetorical scapegoat it also makes solving the problem seem easier than it really is.
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    Image of Roklimber Roklimber
    12/09/09

    @tetracycloide: I agree with you. I also agreed with you on your previous post.

    This raises the question of whether the president is really where the buck ends.

    My (admittedly poor) knowledge of the American political system tells me that the president doesn't actually make the final decision on everything. There are the Congress and the Senate as well.

    Regardless, the point is that 8 years of the Bush administration's continuous blundering and inexcusable warring is the cause of our situation today.

    My recollection is that by the end of Clinton's second term, the US had a surplus in the trillions. By the end of Bush's second term, the US was in the mess it is now.

    It's that simple.
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    Image of roninpenguin roninpenguin
    12/09/09

    @Roklimber: I agree that the buck needs to stop somewhere and that somewhere tends to be the President. In the case of Bush, his party had power in the Congress during most of his term so saying that he had ultimate responsibility I feel is an apt description. There is a difference between responsibility and fault though.

    Congress is the body that voted to deregulate the financial institutions so they could make the bad loans. Yes Bush didn't make that call, but he could have Vetoed the bill. Bush is also in charge of choosing those that control the Regulators that were left.

    While I feel personally that this is the fault of deregulation that has been occurring for the last 25 years (and all of the administrations during that time) being the one "On Watch" when the event happens means something.
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    Image of roninpenguin roninpenguin
    12/09/09

    @Roklimber: Oh and one more thing (and this isn't to nit pick, it is to educate) the Senate is part of Congress. The Congress has two parts, the Senate (two reps per state no matter the population) and the House of Representatives (number of reps per state dependent on pop).

    You may not even live in USA so you may not care, but I find a lot of people who live here who don't know this.
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    Image of Roklimber Roklimber
    12/09/09

    @roninpenguin: Ah, yes, thanks for the correction. See, I'm not an US citizen, but I lived in the US for 20 years.
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    Image of Hamslicer Hamslicer
    12/09/09

    @Roklimber: This goes back farther than Dubbia.

    Reagan's pro-corporation programs are at the core. Deregulation ( some was good ), anti-union, private equity run amok, CEO compensation run rampant, these pull investment dollars out of the companies The inequity of wage increases leave the majority stagnant.
    Isn't this the same guy that wanted to save money in school lunches by saying ketchup was a vegetable?

    They talk about the poor insurance companies suffering at the hands of the public option.

    Letting corporations act as if they had the same rights that individual Americans do.

    We've reached the tipping point on the scale but there has to be so much more pain for people to really demand change.
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    Image of EugeniaBSG EugeniaBSG
    12/09/09

    @Roklimber: Clinton did not have a surplus. Clinton practiced "creative accounting".
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    Image of tetracycloide tetracycloide
    12/09/09

    In reply to The Scariest Map Ever - At Least for Americans
    we're adopting a european stance on economic issues and we're suprised our uemployment rates are raising to match those of europe?

    what's the definition of insanity again?
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    Image of Barnabus Barnabus
    12/09/09

    @tetracycloide: Definition of insanity: repeating the same action and expecting a different result. Like sitting back and letting a deregulated financial industry run wild, and then being surprised that they leverage themselves until they crash and take us all down with them. See: S&L scandal, current economic crisis.
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    Image of tetracycloide tetracycloide
    12/09/09

    @Citizen Kang: ad hominem
    @Barnabus: straw man

    this is going to be fun! first person to post an actual point devoid of logical falacies wins a prize!
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    Edited by tetracycloide at 12/09/09 9:29 AM tetracycloide was starred tetracycloide was unstarred
    Image of rhmoon rhmoon
    12/09/09

    @tetracycloide:
    There is no temporal nor causitive connection between the unemployment rates shown, and the perceived "europeanness" of adopted economic policies.

    Further, your initial statement is itself based on a logical fallacy, namely Questionable Cause. As well, your latest post is, itself, built upon an Appeal to Spite fallacy.

    Thank you for your time.
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    Image of LittleDragon LittleDragon
    12/09/09

    In reply to The Scariest Map Ever - At Least for Americans
    With the Canadian Ice Age warning and this, I just have an image of Grapes of Wrath with snow.
    I can't even thing of what to say. I am a worrier by nature, watching this does not help.
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    Image of Klebert L. Hall Klebert L. Hall
    12/08/09

    In reply to Thigh-High Boots Are The New Cyberpunk Hotness
    "Futurism/Cyberpunk: building upon the cyberpunk influences of recent years, some designers have thrown an element of dark futurism into the thigh-high boot mix. Particularly evident in the wound-and-bound effects of boots by Rodarte and Topshop Unique, this is a trend I expect we'll see more of in coming seasons."

    Well, I guess it's nice to see sci-fi terminology become so mainstrean that it's used as a buzzword by people with absolutely no clue what it means.
    -Kle.
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    12/07/09

    In reply to Thigh-High Boots Are The New Cyberpunk Hotness
    Rihanna wore that gray dress in # 2 during Paris Fashion Week. It doesn't look as cyberpunk on an average sized woman.
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    Image of Bill-Lee Bill-Lee
    12/07/09

    In reply to Thigh-High Boots Are The New Cyberpunk Hotness
    Why do fashion models always look like they're about to die? Why does number 6 look like the sleazy fetish magazine I...er...a friend told me about?
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