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    Image of Whitworthian Whitworthian
    11/23/09

    In reply to Producers of America: Congratulations, Joss! Now Leave Television Alone
    He wrote some good X-Men comics a few years back... and they're turning them into motion comics.

    That's new media, right?
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    Image of tande04 tande04
    11/23/09

    @Whitworthian: But wouldn't you also say its a Marvel thing and not a Whedon thing?
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    Image of Whitworthian Whitworthian
    11/24/09

    @tande04: I'm scrapin' the barrel here... gotta meet me halfway!
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    Image of HappyCthulhu HappyCthulhu
    11/23/09

    In reply to Producers of America: Congratulations, Joss! Now Leave Television Alone
    Dr. Horrible is great, but the only thing he's ever done that I can obsess over is Firefly.
    [/pout]
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    twDarkflame promoted this comment HappyCthulhu was starred HappyCthulhu was unstarred
    Image of twDarkflame twDarkflame
    11/23/09

    @HappyCthulhu: Oddly, I'm the reverse. Firefly was more excellent characters rather then excellent story's. Dr Horrible on the other hand was a pretty perfect way to tell a high-impact story in 45minutes. Which I thinks amazingly hard.
    I can obsess over Horrible much more because of that.
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    Image of HappyCthulhu HappyCthulhu
    11/24/09

    @twDarkflame: I agree that the stories weren't all that great, but they really didn't have time to get into the swing of things before it was all over.
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    Image of burlybax burlybax
    11/23/09

    In reply to Producers of America: Congratulations, Joss! Now Leave Television Alone
    New Media? The Internet is new?
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    vulcanized promoted this comment burlybax was starred burlybax was unstarred
    Image of vulcanized vulcanized
    11/23/09

    @burlybax: Professionally making shows with a budget and legit actors specifically for the internet is new. Well, newish.
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    Image of Eridani Eridani
    11/23/09

    @burlybax: I think they mean, "Whedon figured out how to make money off those lazy-ass pirating Internet lowlifes!" when they say "success in new media."
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    Evil Tortie's Mom: R.O.A.C.H. promoted this comment Eridani was starred Eridani was unstarred
    Image of ZenithPuzzle ZenithPuzzle
    11/23/09

    In reply to Producers of America: Congratulations, Joss! Now Leave Television Alone
    "And if I'm not, why is he being recognized now for something that's more than a year old!

    Because the awards are for 2008?
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    tande04 promoted this comment ZenithPuzzle was starred ZenithPuzzle was unstarred
    Image of geesejuggler geesejuggler
    11/23/09

    In reply to Producers of America: Congratulations, Joss! Now Leave Television Alone
    Honestly, my only question about this is if this award is for the all of the Whedon family for Dr. Horrible or just Joss for directing it?
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    Image of tetracycloide tetracycloide
    11/23/09

    In reply to Producers of America: Congratulations, Joss! Now Leave Television Alone
    it's fun watching fans of dollhouse view the world through dollhouse-tinted lenses. hint: everything is not about dollhouse.
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    Image of gorehound gorehound
    11/23/09

    @tetracycloide: i agree on that one.firefly rocked not dollhouse for me.
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    Image of firstanointed firstanointed
    11/23/09

    In reply to Producers of America: Congratulations, Joss! Now Leave Television Alone
    There's a saying among writers that every writer has one story to tell, and he/she attempts to tell that one story in a variety of ways. Like the cliche says, there are many sides to a story, and if Joss hasn't finished telling those sides, which we know he isn't, regardless of what audiences/production companies think, he's going to do his best to tell those stories in whatever format is available for him to use. Firefly, Buffy, Dollhouse, the man's going to keep going.
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    Image of mp15622 mp15622
    11/23/09

    In reply to Producers of America: Congratulations, Joss! Now Leave Television Alone
    "Ninjas can't catch you in the Whedonverse" This is my new motto, if I ever decide to have a motto.
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    Image of Hamslicer Hamslicer
    11/23/09

    @mp15622: Ninjas, I hate ninjas.
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    Image of evildead1971 evildead1971
    11/23/09

    @Hamslicer: Ninjas. Why'd it have to be ninjas?
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    Image of Hamslicer Hamslicer
    11/23/09

    @evildead1971: That's my pet ninja, Reggie!

    #calendar
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    Image of evildead1971 evildead1971
    11/23/09

    In reply to Producers of America: Congratulations, Joss! Now Leave Television Alone
    we'll hold till joss gets back
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    Image of Kishi Kishi
    11/23/09

    @evildead1971: We're not going to get canceled. You know why? Because we are just too pretty to be canceled. Look at that chiseled jaw!

    ...oh.
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    evildead1971 promoted this comment Kishi was starred Kishi was unstarred
    Image of Garrison Dean: R.O.A.C.H. Garrison Dean: R.O.A.C.H.
    11/23/09

    In reply to Producers of America: Congratulations, Joss! Now Leave Television Alone
    I think by newest technology they are referring to the Imprinting device on Dollhouse. Because if the PGA is gonna give Whedon an award for anything after that suck-fest it's proof that they are all dolls and Joss is their master.
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    Garrison Dean: R.O.A.C.H. was starred Garrison Dean: R.O.A.C.H. was unstarred
    Image of Kubaker1 Kubaker1
    11/23/09

    In reply to Producers of America: Congratulations, Joss! Now Leave Television Alone
    You know what finished Dollhouse?

    Dummy Eliza Dushku Writing On Twitter that She was a socialist. She did. check it out! She put that She was raised by socialist parents and was a

    "Loud, proud Socialist "

    And rupert Murdoch is A Hardcore Conservative see the connection?

    Blame Eliza Dushku.
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    Lassus promoted this comment Kubaker1 was starred Kubaker1 was unstarred
    Image of JerryA JerryA
    11/23/09

    @Kubaker1: Then why do they allow shows like The Simpsons or all of McFarland's stuff? Because while they are very much non-conservative they rake in the money while Dollhouse was not.
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    Wookie1972 promoted this comment JerryA was starred JerryA was unstarred
    Image of iliad2099001 iliad2099001
    11/23/09

    @Kubaker1: I think I'd rather blame Murdoch. And Murdoch is a businessman first, callow fascist second. If Dushku were making him tons of money, he would fellate the Little Red Book in public in her support.
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    Evil Tortie's Mom: R.O.A.C.H. promoted this comment Chip Overclock approved this comment iliad2099001 was starred iliad2099001 was unstarred
    Image of Wookie1972 Wookie1972
    11/23/09

    @JerryA: Agreed. The news and the entertainment ends of Fox have little connection, other than occaisonaly Fox News gets outraged by something that's on the Fox channel. Dollhouse just didn't get enough viewers.
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    Image of Lassus Lassus
    11/23/09

    @Kubaker1: You cannot believe this is why the show was canceled.
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    Image of firstanointed firstanointed
    11/23/09

    @Kubaker1: ROFL! I love her even more now.
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    Image of winshape winshape
    11/23/09

    @Kubaker1: Murdoch is a capitalist first, and will chase the almighty dollar.

    Dollhouse failed because Dushku can only play one character, "Faith" on Buffy the Vampire Slayer. If she has to play any other character type, she fails miserably and painfully.

    If Murdoch doesn't show anything involving Socialist actors, then we'll be stuck with the Clint Eastwood/Chuck Norris/Charlton Heston channel.
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    Evil Tortie's Mom: R.O.A.C.H. promoted this comment winshape was starred winshape was unstarred
    Image of evildead1971 evildead1971
    11/23/09

    @JerryA: my brother pointed out that i didnt watch dollhouse despite the fact i've watched all of joss previous projects. i'm sure some of us are to blame cause we didn't support joss from the beginning and watch dollhouse. considering we read articles (right here on io9) that dollhouse had a rocky start to begin with, the pilot being a problem etc etc. i was still mad at fox for cancelling firefly and futurama so i didnt want to watch dollhouse and be let down if/when it got cancelled. joss has a unique style and picks people for his staff that share/have his same style. i'm sure he's not done with tv/movies/comics/webisodes. we'll hold till he gets back!
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    Image of tande04 tande04
    11/23/09

    @Kubaker1: Oh I blame Eliza Dushku but not for that reason.

    It has more to do with the fact that time and time again she has shown herself to not be suitable for a lead role and not capable of carrying a show in any way shape or form.

    The socialist stuff is just stupid.
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    Image of Chuck Chuck
    11/23/09

    @Kubaker1: If there was a targetable high-spending demographic that wanted to hear socialist-slanted news-o-tainment 24/7, I have little doubt that News Corp would set a land speed record setting up a channel to service it.

    I'm a Joss fan from way back, and I actually like Dollhouse, but you can't expect a show that turns in ratings that would be low for a basic cable channel on the same night to survive long on a network -- not even Fox.

    Joss needs to either a) find a venue where the number of people who can be attracted to a smart, challenging show are enough to sustain the production budget, or b) make the shows more attractive to larger segment of viewers -- at least until they've got a season or two of solid ratings under their belt.
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    Image of Smeagol92055 Smeagol92055
    11/23/09

    In reply to Producers of America: Congratulations, Joss! Now Leave Television Alone
    Joss Whedon is never done.
    Now every man there go back inside or we will blow a new crater in this little moon.
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    Image of GarnetLynne GarnetLynne
    11/23/09

    In reply to Producers of America: Congratulations, Joss! Now Leave Television Alone
    I still think Joss should do a soap, then he could do anything he wanted as long as the cast got naked while flying through the verse. I think he's ready for daytime.
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    geesejuggler promoted this comment GarnetLynne was starred GarnetLynne was unstarred
    Image of geesejuggler geesejuggler
    11/23/09

    @GarnetLynne: Is it wrong that I would watch that?
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    Image of GarnetLynne GarnetLynne
    11/25/09

    @geesejuggler: not at all, we need something to watch during the day, wish he would.

    #calendar
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    GarnetLynne was starred GarnetLynne was unstarred
    Image of mordicai mordicai
    11/23/09

    In reply to Producers of America: Congratulations, Joss! Now Leave Television Alone
    I feel like Dollhouse is the system WORKING. It was challenging, so rather than cancel it, Fox gave it a second chance. Then we saw it was challenging but ultimately not that good, either. So it got canceled. I feel like that is the right set of events.

    Though I WOULD watch an "Epitaph" spin-off.
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    tetracycloide promoted this comment mordicai was starred mordicai was unstarred
    Image of danataf2 danataf2
    11/23/09

    @mordicai: It was damaged by being placed on Friday nights, by a really poor start, and by a terrible marketing campaign that accented Eliza Dushku being naked, rather than promotion of the plotlines.
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    Mary Ratliff promoted this comment danataf2 was starred danataf2 was unstarred
    Image of PriceIsWrong PriceIsWrong
    11/23/09

    @danataf2:

    If the actual plotlines couldn't save the show, then they absolutely needed that marketing campaign.

    I watched out of hope it would get better, but I only really liked a handful of the episodes, if that.
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    tetracycloide promoted this comment PriceIsWrong was starred PriceIsWrong was unstarred
    Image of danataf2 danataf2
    11/23/09

    @PriceIsWrong:

    By the time the plotlines got better the audience had shrivelled from 4.7 million to 2.3 million viewers. It did stop shrinking however. Audiences were dropping by like 10% a week through the first 6 or 7 episodes.

    The marketing campaign of Eliza Dushku naked was useless for a variety of reasons. First, it'll alienate potential female viewers by coming off as being some sort of soft porn for scifi geeks, which it isn't. Secondly, even if that weren't an issue, Dushku is not the hottest woman on TV and not even the hottest on Friday night, people who watch shows based on eye candy would not be watching dollhouse.
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    Mary Ratliff promoted this comment danataf2 was starred danataf2 was unstarred
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    11/23/09

    @danataf2: But at the same time, the core thing is that the show wasn't compelling enough to drive a large enough audience.

    It had a chance, but even people who worship Whedon have admitted they just don't like it that much. That has nothing to do with the marketing, the time slot, or anything aside from the quality of the show.

    I know Whedon doesn't like to admit his faults, but Dollhouse was flawed, and Fox can't be blamed for it's success or failure because the show itself couldn't stand on it's own.
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    Mary Ratliff was starred Mary Ratliff was unstarred
    Image of Mary Ratliff Mary Ratliff
    11/23/09

    @danataf2: I think saying women didn't watch Dollhouse because of the marketing is probably incorrect. I don't know a lot of women who would be alienated and avoid a show just because the ad campaign featured the actress naked. We're kind of used to that, and being ignored by marketing guys.

    It was no secret what the show was about, and female fans of Whedon are legion. But they didn't respond to THE SHOW. I know of no one who stayed away because of the marketing, but who dropped it because of the show itself.
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    Image of twDarkflame twDarkflame
    11/23/09

    @mordicai: ". Then we saw it was challenging but ultimately not that good, either. So it got canceled."

    You say that now, but wait till you see the last half :P

    Dollhouse s2 seems like Fringe s2 to me.
    Its only (finaly) got as good as the end of the last season after a very slow/reset like start.
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    Image of mordicai mordicai
    11/24/09

    @twDarkflame: "Wait till you see X!" was the entire story of Dollhouse. "I know it is slow going but wait till this episode!" or "but wait till you meet Alpha!" or "Wait till next season!" or...well, eventually I get tired of waiting.
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    Image of tipsymongoose tipsymongoose
    11/23/09

    In reply to Producers of America: Congratulations, Joss! Now Leave Television Alone
    I still cry myself to sleep every night over Firefly. Fox killed my dreams.
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    OW-Holmes:Bringer of Fear promoted this comment tipsymongoose was starred tipsymongoose was unstarred
    Image of Wookie1972 Wookie1972
    11/23/09

    @tipsymongoose: It's been five years. Get over it.
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    Image of tetracycloide tetracycloide
    11/23/09

    @Wookie1972: it's been over a year since 24 died, you really think you'll be over it after just another 4 years? i know i won't be.
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    Image of tipsymongoose tipsymongoose
    11/23/09

    @Wookie1972: Is that a Castle reference?
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    tipsymongoose was starred tipsymongoose was unstarred
    Image of Wookie1972 Wookie1972
    11/23/09

    @tipsymongoose: Never watched Castle, sorry. I actually like Fillion, though.
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    Wookie1972 was starred Wookie1972 was unstarred
    Image of Wookie1972 Wookie1972
    11/23/09

    @tetracycloide: For a second I thought you meant 24 the show, which I've never watched and could disappear off the face of the earth for all I care. But yeah, I guess you have a point there. Although why did he buckle up?
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