i don't know if anyone is interested, but in related news i read about this group who map where free food grows in my city of Auckland. I know foraging is a growing trend here, and the map is 'growing' every day (There is even a facebook group!)
so.. hang on.. what.. is this true? in the US you HAVE to pay a corporation a percenatgeof your profit if you growand sell your own vege???????????????? thats messed up #pharmaceuticals
@LittleDragon: I recently ate a dish at a vegan restaurant called "mac and yease" because they used yeast instead of cheese. Tasty dish. Poorly titled. #pharmaceuticals
If any drug researcher wants to get the attention of Big Pharma they should add the phrase "Makes Your Dick Hard" somewhere in the drug they're working on list of side effects.
@acrobatic rabbit: No joke: Viagra failed miserably as a blood pressure medicine. They were going to cut the clinical trials short, when a funny thing happened: the old guys in the trial refused to return their pills. Then someone broke into one of the labs and ransacked the dispensary, taking the pills for the trial. That's when they knew something was up and started asking questions about ancillary effects.
I'd like to think that the researchers stopped at the Mercedes dealership on the way home that night.
Long answer: Follow the money. Old men have it. Old men get impotence and baldness. Insurance companies can say these are not covered medical conditions so they don't have to pay for treatment. Drug company makes list price on the drug, not what some insurance company negotiates.
So when the drug companies say that if healthcare reform involves cutting their profits, there will be fewer new drugs, they mean fewer everyhting except dick and hair medicines.
@Dr Emilio Lizardo: im aware of the economics of it. but viagra and cialus fixt everyone's dix. lets get better meds for heart conditions, cancer, the HIV now k thx
@GreyHammer: I think the economics go deeper than you appreciate. It's far easier to develop a me-too drug. Somebody else has layed the groundwork so you have a better idea where to start, what the side effects will be and how to design the trials to get it to market faster. It will be available on patent longer. Also, the market is huge. There are more men who want to perform better in bed than there are people with cancer.
I'm with you, but the drug companies are not. I have 20 drugs to treat breast cancer. I would love one that treated melanoma.
@Dr Emilio Lizardo: I hear ya, but old men get cancer and heart disease too. They surely would pay to live longer so they can enjoy the effects of newest boner cream with their 20 year old trophy wives, no?
@Dr Emilio Lizardo: They may not cover Viagra but they sure as shit cover penile implants. I would be pissed if I had ED and I couldn't get a little blue pill but instead get a pump implanted in my cock to pump it up when it was time to get down to business.
I'm all for it, but any significant extension has to be;
a) Tied to a no-child-if-you-have-the-treatment-polic.... (or purhapes simply only childless people above 40 are able too have it).
b) Has to be done together with anti-cancer research. Living longer and encouraging regeneration of the body is strongly linked to increaseing cancer likelyhood. (ie, the more your cells regenerate the more chance they will go wrong).
@twDarkflame: Why the no child policy? If you're going to limit reproduction, shouldn't it be based on something like genetic value? IE, stronger, smarter, etc?
As it is most of the world happens to be seeing a population crunch in our lifetime. [en.wikipedia.org]
@Louis Wang: Exactly.. First world populations are ALL decreasing. Population limits are the last thing they need.
Unlikely that poor people around the world are going to be spending money on optional life extension drugs over basic necessities.
As for cancer concerns.. sure people are working on cancer solutions but it has nothing to do with anti-aging per se. Besides from what I've read, animals that live longer via SIRT1 (and other genes) have enhanced immune systems that do not spur cancer production.
@damndirtyape: I'm sorry, but we don't need more old people for demographic reasons, we need more YOUNG people. There's no point in having twice the old population if you have the same workforce paying for their health care.
And... eermm... I maybe wrong, but I think cancer has nothing to do with the inmune system
@Dirk Anger: Well I'm guessing that if people are living to 100+ on a regular basis then the age of retirement will be set at 85 + thus adding more taxpaying years for each person.
The way that CR works its not like you age normally to 80 then from 80 to 120 you'd be old and weak. At 80 you'd be as vigorous as people in their 50s now.
You ever notice in Star Trek TNG that they never avoid the actual harm, they just have a pill that will fix it. Like they don't wear radiation suits, they just take radiation drugs.
Hey, Riker, instead of taking a regimen of drugs for the rest of your extended life, why don't you just pass on the morning cream puff, dude.
Meh, I used to work for a pharmacy. Several years ago a doctor prescribed an Alzheimer's medication to college students to improve their memory during cram week. It didn't work any better than a placebo.
p.s. Amphetamines won't make your memory better, they'll just keep you awake.
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edit: 'growing' was not originally intended as a pun, but after I posted I saw the relation. I guess my sub-concious wanted to express itself. :D
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Annalee's just being fanciful / prophetic.
-Kle. #pharmaceuticals
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oh yes.. i see now. duh. #pharmaceuticals
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Don't necessarily want to inadvertently shut down our favorite producers. Support local growers! #pharmaceuticals
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Do your Boritos have beans and cheese in them? #pharmaceuticals
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"You finally discovered a topical cream to cure skin cancer?" - Scientist 2
"Probably not, but it makes my dick hard!!"
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I'd like to think that the researchers stopped at the Mercedes dealership on the way home that night.
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Long answer: Follow the money. Old men have it. Old men get impotence and baldness. Insurance companies can say these are not covered medical conditions so they don't have to pay for treatment. Drug company makes list price on the drug, not what some insurance company negotiates.
So when the drug companies say that if healthcare reform involves cutting their profits, there will be fewer new drugs, they mean fewer everyhting except dick and hair medicines.
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I'm with you, but the drug companies are not. I have 20 drugs to treat breast cancer. I would love one that treated melanoma.
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"Science could have countered this problem, but was too busy solving the problems of hair loss and erectile dysfunction."
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There was a ted talk awhile back too.
I'm all for it, but any significant extension has to be;
a) Tied to a no-child-if-you-have-the-treatment-polic.... (or purhapes simply only childless people above 40 are able too have it).
b) Has to be done together with anti-cancer research. Living longer and encouraging regeneration of the body is strongly linked to increaseing cancer likelyhood. (ie, the more your cells regenerate the more chance they will go wrong).
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As it is most of the world happens to be seeing a population crunch in our lifetime. [en.wikipedia.org]
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Unlikely that poor people around the world are going to be spending money on optional life extension drugs over basic necessities.
As for cancer concerns.. sure people are working on cancer solutions but it has nothing to do with anti-aging per se. Besides from what I've read, animals that live longer via SIRT1 (and other genes) have enhanced immune systems that do not spur cancer production.
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And... eermm... I maybe wrong, but I think cancer has nothing to do with the inmune system
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The way that CR works its not like you age normally to 80 then from 80 to 120 you'd be old and weak. At 80 you'd be as vigorous as people in their 50s now.
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Hey, Riker, instead of taking a regimen of drugs for the rest of your extended life, why don't you just pass on the morning cream puff, dude.
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There was recent major radiation drug that had massively successfull (monkey based) trails.
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p.s. Amphetamines won't make your memory better, they'll just keep you awake.