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    11/19/09

    In reply to Strange Visitors And Broken Hearts Will Restore Your Faith In Short Fiction
    I've been finding short-story anthologies giving me more bang for my buck than novels the past year or two. And I don't think I read any of these Eclipses; trade paperbacks are too pricey.
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    11/19/09

    In reply to Strange Visitors And Broken Hearts Will Restore Your Faith In Short Fiction
    Look to find, I did.
    Where to buy?
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    11/19/09

    @phoghat: Oh duh. I added the link now. Here it is: [www.borders.com]]&searchData={productId:null,sku:null,type:0,sort:null,currPage:1,resultsPerPage:25,simpleSearch:true,navigation:0,moreValue:null,coverView:false,url:rpp%3D25%26view%3D2%26all_search%3Declipse%2Bthree%2Bstrahan%26type%3D0%26nav%3D0%26simple%3Dtrue,terms:{all_search%3Declipse+three+strahan}}&storeId=13551&sku=1597801623&ddkey=http:SearchResults
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    11/19/09

    @phoghat: I added the link to the bottom of the post....
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    11/19/09

    In reply to Strange Visitors And Broken Hearts Will Restore Your Faith In Short Fiction
    Hooray for the Eclipse series! I hope these yearly anthologies will win over more readers and writers to find the best that is possible in speculative fiction short stories.
    Another note, all these stories are seeing print for the first time but you will be seeing some of them again in award nomination lists and Year's Best anthologies.
    Already looking forward to Eclipse Four!
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    11/19/09

    In reply to Strange Visitors And Broken Hearts Will Restore Your Faith In Short Fiction
    reading short fiction is laborious? what kind of a sci-fi fan are you?!??!
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    09/18/09

    In reply to The New Noir Fantasy Shows Magical Cities In Decay
    So is it worth sticking with The Steel Remains then? I've read a few of Morgan's other books and enjoyed them, but kept finding myself unmotivated to pick up The Steel Remains again. I think it was the interminable sections dealing with the third (heterosexual) character and his utterly dull sex with his young girlfriend that bored me most. But even the other threads failed to intrigue me very much; the good guys too good (despite the veneer of anti-hero), the bad guys too bad, maybe. But does the plot pick up in the second half and make it worthwhile?
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    09/19/09

    @Brdf: I'd stick. In fact, I think that there is only one such scene with that character. that said, I always find Morgan's sex scenes to be interminable.
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    09/18/09

    In reply to The New Noir Fantasy Shows Magical Cities In Decay
    Arthur Cover here. Years ago (1982) my friend J. Michael Reaves wrote a novel called Darkworld Detective, about a hero/detective named Kamus of Khadizar. In fact, John Shirley even wrote a sequel. Naturally Michael's book was a mash-up between noir and Leiberesque fantasy. The existential connection between noir and our hero's name should be obvious.
    Then there's Glen Cook's long running series, which I believe began around the same time. So like most new trends, this one has roots that go back a long way, roots that some of the authors whose work is included in your discussion probably aren't even aware of.
    Noir isn't a genre so much as it is a feeling, a philosophy, contained within a story with melodramatic elements. The movie Odd Man Out has an IRA sponsored bank robbery in it, but it's really about a dying man trying to find a place to die in an unsympathetic world. You can't get bleaker or more noirish than that.
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    09/18/09

    In reply to The New Noir Fantasy Shows Magical Cities In Decay
    At least while reading Carey's Felix Castor books, I was continually reminded of Butcher's Harry Dresden books. They're not that different in terms of tone. Your mileage may vary, though.
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    09/18/09

    In reply to The New Noir Fantasy Shows Magical Cities In Decay
    "Inter urinas et faeces nascimur," is a French saying? Er, St. Augustine was not only speaking in Latin, but was from modern-day Algeria. Unless he's a hard-right Pied Noir, I think Kadrey is a bit confused on geography there.
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    09/18/09

    In reply to The New Noir Fantasy Shows Magical Cities In Decay
    The classics of fantasy and urban mystery share roots in the First World War (Tolkien, Lewis, the screen detective's iconic trench coat; Paul Fussell's The Great War and Modern Memory is a terrific book about WWI literature), while the common experience of the books listed seems to be eight years of George W. Bush as Uncool Suburban Dad.
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    09/18/09

    @Rasselas: Actually that's not exactly correct. Noir has roots in post-first world war angst and uncertainty. Noir generally fades a little bit when the great issues of society are galvanizing. It seems a pretty good fit for the angst of today.
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    09/18/09

    @Pope John Peeps II: Noir has its roots definitively in post-first world war angst and uncertainty.

    Which I think makes some of these works a bit decadent, because, e.g., the protagonists and author of The Steel Remains suffer from a surfeit of certainties, and bait and bully secondary characters and the reader, respectively, with them recurrently.
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    09/18/09

    @Rasselas: Well, I don't know that book much. But I'd guess that given the climate of our world today, it maybe makes a book more appealing to have heroes be slightly more certain, and the world in decay, rather than people in decay simply thrust together in an adventure? Eh. I don't know. I guess it makes sense to someone, since it's gotten such good reviews. I'll have to read it.
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    09/18/09

    @Pope John Peeps II: I think I have my copy away, or I'd offer to send it to you. I liked Morgan's SF urbanized worlds more than his F one, even though everyone likes knights who say "fuck."
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    09/18/09

    @Rasselas: I didn't see quite as much certainty as you did. The main character, Ringil, seems particularly divided between the horrors that his barbaric society has inflicted upon him for being gay and his desire to protect it. In fact, I am not at all sure that he does care to protect it. I think he might just really like to kill things, and directs that energy as appropriately as he can. Several characters definitely suffer from the kind of postwar issues that are hallmarks of noir.
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    09/18/09

    @The Curse of Millhaven: I am going to throw in another thing that The Steel Remains had going for it: Morgan makes the magic really plausible. I don't think that it is much of a spoiler to say that the "sorcerous" villains so far seem to be using the same sort of no-tools-needed technology that the Incanters from Neal Stephenson's Anathem employ.
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    03/13/09

    In reply to Metatropolis Is The Best Kind Of Urban Renewal
    I read the title as "Meatopolis", then as "Meatropolis" and wondered if it was a dystopian future (drink!) where people were a food source, or a utopian one where the buildings were made out of bacon.
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    03/13/09

    In reply to Metatropolis Is The Best Kind Of Urban Renewal
    I dont know - I'm kinda holding out for the Australian GIGACITY Project. I think a Million Square Miles of City in the Australian Desert supporting a Billion Population in a Hightech City is going to be freaking awesome...


    ALICE SPRINGS GIGACITY

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    03/13/09

    @ZanipoloLebron: Sounds cool but what will it do for water?
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    03/13/09

    In reply to Metatropolis Is The Best Kind Of Urban Renewal
    It was a lot of fun to write, I have to say. Thanks for the blog-bling!
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    03/13/09

    @jaylake: *points* AN AUTHOR SIGHTING!
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    03/13/09

    @jaylake: Thanks for writing such a kick-ass story and for collaborating on such a great book!
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    03/13/09

    @jaylake: I'm listening to it now, but I'm not too big on anything in audiobook form. I'll get a better feel when I buy the book.
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    03/13/09

    @mewlink64: The funny thing is it was written for audio, so to me it actually seems to flow slightly less well in print.
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    03/13/09

    @Charlie Jane Anders: Thanks! It was the first thing I wrote after I'd recovered enough from cancer surgery to manage a keyboard. That means a lot to me.
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    03/13/09

    In reply to Metatropolis Is The Best Kind Of Urban Renewal
    I wish my life was narrated by Micheal Hogan. Then Garja got the frak out of bed! *damatic eye thing*.
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    03/13/09

    @GarjaWhchi: You'd probably find yourself throwing a lot more empty liquor bottles just because it would sound cooler in the narration.
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    03/13/09

    In reply to Metatropolis Is The Best Kind Of Urban Renewal
    *sobbing* You, Grey, Andrew, all are conspiring with book publishers to rob me of everything but the clothes off my back!!!!
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    03/13/09

    @crashedpc: What do you want for the shirt, is that cotton?
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    03/13/09

    @Grey_Area: It's repulped book bindings from all the Piers Anthony books that I renounced when started high school.
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    03/13/09

    @crashedpc: Whoof! That's stuff is impossible to destroy! I'll trade you 2 Neal Asher hardcovers for it, 1st ed. my choice of titles.
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    03/13/09

    @Grey_Area: *strips*
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    03/13/09

    In reply to Metatropolis Is The Best Kind Of Urban Renewal
    My interest is peeked as well!

    When does the deadtree version come out?
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    03/13/09

    @Grey_Area: Hamazon.com says Meatropolis will be coming out in book form on July 30. We'll have to plug it in the monthly "new books" things for July.
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