They raise the key question themselves at the end of the paper: "Is XMRV infection a causal factor in the pathogenesis of CFS or a passenger virus in the immunosuppressed CFS patient population?" Given the presence of other viruses like herpes in many CFS patients, the latter seems like the default assumption. Time for some animal models, I guess.
There have been multiple virus's linked to Chronic Fatigue, as well as evidence of genetic predisposition and the mechanism seems to be an overactive immune response. It's likely it's a combination of factors, that what we call chronic fatigue is actually many different combinations of genetics, physiological factors and viral infections that cause the body to respond in a similar way.
It's not very infectious -- I been sexin' up this guy for years before and after coming down with it and he's fine. Which is typical.
The retrovirus theory has been around for quite a while, but nobody knows which one. Probably in conjunction with some other virus, on top of a genetic predisposition.
The chronic fatigue I feel is due to the fact I have incurable HEP-C and it is slowly killing my liver....boohoo
So I always feel r eal tired and don't have much energy.My body is trying to kill a virus that has spewed millions of little virii throughout my body and it ain't able to do stop the virus.
Correlation does not prove causation; but it's enough to warrant further investigation.
I was going to say it's enough to get a warrant... which would mean pretty soon some white blood cells would be kicking XMRV's doors in and asking it to come down to the station.
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@EBone: That seems a little unfair. I don't think it's merely laziness. The article says human organs are affected, and the study mentioned suggests it's caused by a virus.
@EBone: I don't hang out with lazy people. 'Cause then you have to pick up the phone, and then talk to them... then you gotta take a shower, and put on pants, and by that point I'm just like, f*ck it.
Another vote for 12 Monkeys and the original Andromeda Strain. If we're adding TV, what about the Star Trek first season ep "Miri" (OK I looked it up) when the kids are all ancient and eveyrone dies at puberty. (Boy were they messing with young minds!)
The description of THE SIGNAL (which I haven't seen) reminds me of the dangers in the spread of memes: infectious ideas that spread via normal channels of communication.
While the SF lobes in my brain want to think of this like a sort of computer virus but for people, memes in fact occur all the time in real life, frequently as the latest fad in fashion, business, or technology. And like biological viruses, they can be good or bad. The current financial crisis can be thought of as a kind of meme that infected investors, financiers, and bankers to take on more risk than any rational person could justify.
Another example is the song that keeps running through your mind (think of ANYTHING except "Gilligan's Island"... ANYTHING!). This has been used in a short story by Arthur C. Clarke (as a weapon against the Nazi's I dimly recall) and in Alfred Bester's THE DEMOLISHED MAN (to avoid mind reading police from pegging a murderer). Just recently I had "Gimme Shelter" by the Rolling Stones running though my mind to the point of distraction. (But if you have to have a song stuck in your head, that's not a bad one.)
Memes might be described as a kind of obsession for those of us that are so inclined. Or maybe some forms of addictions are meme-based instead of physiological.
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I'd say they've found an important clue.
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The retrovirus theory has been around for quite a while, but nobody knows which one. Probably in conjunction with some other virus, on top of a genetic predisposition.
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So I always feel r eal tired and don't have much energy.My body is trying to kill a virus that has spewed millions of little virii throughout my body and it ain't able to do stop the virus.
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I was going to say it's enough to get a warrant... which would mean pretty soon some white blood cells would be kicking XMRV's doors in and asking it to come down to the station.
Phew. I'm really, really tired now. Fatigued, even.
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Is there a disease which does not affect human organs?
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Its like Rabid except instead of a virus its a parasite, and the infected turn from laid back swinging singles into aggressive swinging singles.
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While the SF lobes in my brain want to think of this like a sort of computer virus but for people, memes in fact occur all the time in real life, frequently as the latest fad in fashion, business, or technology. And like biological viruses, they can be good or bad. The current financial crisis can be thought of as a kind of meme that infected investors, financiers, and bankers to take on more risk than any rational person could justify.
Another example is the song that keeps running through your mind (think of ANYTHING except "Gilligan's Island"... ANYTHING!). This has been used in a short story by Arthur C. Clarke (as a weapon against the Nazi's I dimly recall) and in Alfred Bester's THE DEMOLISHED MAN (to avoid mind reading police from pegging a murderer). Just recently I had "Gimme Shelter" by the Rolling Stones running though my mind to the point of distraction. (But if you have to have a song stuck in your head, that's not a bad one.)
Memes might be described as a kind of obsession for those of us that are so inclined. Or maybe some forms of addictions are meme-based instead of physiological.
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