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Does anyone find this movie to be about the dysfunctional relationship? I mean that in the negative way not the "oh its just hard" way.
So from the trailer, this guy jumps through time priming his future wife when she's 12 for their eventual pairing. Then once married he just leaves every so often with no word on where he is going and how long he will be gone. Its an abusive relationship.
I think it would be a better/creepier movie if the guy made all the time travel stuff up and the woman learns it all been a sham at the end. Her perfect husband is really a control freak who has been grooming her as his "project".
I did not read the book, so I am sure I am missing a lot.
@bioball: Man, the idea that he's just faking the whole thing would be so much better. Like tossing in a recording in the video store knowing she'd do the 'it's cheating' thing, and then ripping up the ticket. A bit like 'behind the mask', showing all the preperations for fooling people into thinking the killer has supernatural powers.
@bioball: Yes, you are missing a lot. It isn't supposed to be a creepy movie, it isn't about dysfunction and it has nothing to do with abuse. And I am normally one of the first people to notice an abusive relationship even when masked in the cloak of romantic comedy.
Henry's time travel is more a birth defect than anything else. He doesn't want to leave and bounce around. He isn't grooming or priming Claire to be his wife. It is just what happens.
Give the movie a chance or not, it is up to you but you really have misunderstood what the story actually is.
@Elizabeth Weinbloom: Hahah, get it, because Neil Labutte writes about horrible dysfunctional relationships.
Except, if it were really a Neil Labutte play, then somehow she would be the one that caused him to bounce around in time for a science experiment, or something.
@pinkiedeathhead: Well, on the other hand, just because the circumstances aren't a direct analogue doesn't meant that the experience is not a useful metaphor.
That is to say, yes, the specific incidents in the book mean that this is not, purposefully an abusive relationship. But, at the same time, Claire's experience is not wholly dissimilar from a woman in a kind of abusive relationship.
Of course, this is equally similar to the experience of a woman in love with an autistic or schizophrenic man.
@pinkiedeathhead: I've read the book, and I believe that you and bioball are both correct.
In terms of the narrative, it is very much straight sci-fi. His time travelling is a birth defect, as you said, and it's about a couple trying to deal with this variable in their relationship that neither of them can master.
However, the author of the book, Audrey Niffenegger, has outright stated several times that it serves as a metaphor for failed relationships. She cites her own failures, and her parent's failed marriage (her dad was on the road for weeks at a time) as the inspiration. So bioball was actually pretty dead-on. It's a very sweet book, though.
@braak:
Wife enters a gallery full of semi-nude, semi-artistic pictures of an adolescent girl.
WIFE: Honey, what is this?
Crowd of hipsters turns and sees her, and claps. Husband ignores her and addresses crowd.
HUSBAND: Thank you, thank you. As you can see, the preparation stage of this project has extended over several decades, but I think you'll find the result illuminating.
WIFE: What are you--
HUSBAND: Observe.
He disappears. The crowd gasps.
WIFE: Oh, don't worry, he does that.
He reappears, bearing a tin foil hat.
HUSBAND: Here darling - latest fashion from 2065.
WIFE: How charming!
She puts it on. The crowd claps and oohs.
HUSBAND: Upon further examination, you'll be able to note the careful disintegration of her reality over the course of her entire life. Let me direct your attention to this photo of her tenth birthday.
WIFE: Oh, I had those same bedsheets! Wait.. are these pictures of me??
HUSBAND: Yes of course. You are an art project. I have been manipulating your entire timeline to get you to this particular point in space and time, so I could tear you down in front of a room of strangers. Fun, huh?
WIFE: You're... you're not really a time traveler?
HUSBAND: Of course I am. But you didn't really think a TIME TRAVELER would fall for a regular-looking bird like you? I've been shagging Madame du Pompadour.
WIFE: But... but... mother-fucker! But... Was none of it real?
HUSBAND: Nope! Well, that one time thirty years from now, with the lima beans? That was real. But you're stuck with me till then!
@pinkiedeathhead: I think the others have hit on what I was getting at. I understand the idea behind the book and I know that the time travler is not supposed to be abusive, but still has all the hallmarks of a bad situation.
If a female friend of mine every described to be a situation like this movie or Twilight say, I would tell her to drop the dude.
@Elizabeth Weinbloom: that's a little insluting. i'm mean i don't recognize the name right off the bat but to assume no one is capable of spending the 20 secs to find him on wikipedia is a stretch.
if i were artful about it i could even post a quote of comentary on neil as a response like so:
"American theater's reigning misanthrope" -Rob Weinert-Kendt
all with a minimum of effort.
@tetracycloide: I was insulted too!
However, that quote doesn't quite cover the depths of Labutte's batshit misogyny.
I am not a huge fan of Neil Labutte.
Also: has anyone noticed that paragraph breaks have disappeared again?
I like Eric Bana and all but apparently he touches his past self in the book. Unless this is a porno I don't like that time traveling rule being broken.
@Shnyzx: It is more of a convention. A very silly convention at that. It is hard to imagine any trick of physics that would make something bad happen when the same object from another time period, divergent time stream or whatever would explode, implode, disappear or suffer any big negative effects upon contact with its counterpart.
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@The Curse of Millhaven: HARD TO IMAGINE? Haven't you seen Timecop? It's a rule descended from Albert Einstein himself. EINSTEIN SAID IT! IT MUST BE TRUE!
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So from the trailer, this guy jumps through time priming his future wife when she's 12 for their eventual pairing. Then once married he just leaves every so often with no word on where he is going and how long he will be gone. Its an abusive relationship.
I think it would be a better/creepier movie if the guy made all the time travel stuff up and the woman learns it all been a sham at the end. Her perfect husband is really a control freak who has been grooming her as his "project".
I did not read the book, so I am sure I am missing a lot.
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Henry's time travel is more a birth defect than anything else. He doesn't want to leave and bounce around. He isn't grooming or priming Claire to be his wife. It is just what happens.
Give the movie a chance or not, it is up to you but you really have misunderstood what the story actually is.
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"Her perfect husband is really a control freak who has been grooming her as his "project"."
"The Time Traveler's Wife," by Neil LaBute
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Except, if it were really a Neil Labutte play, then somehow she would be the one that caused him to bounce around in time for a science experiment, or something.
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That is to say, yes, the specific incidents in the book mean that this is not, purposefully an abusive relationship. But, at the same time, Claire's experience is not wholly dissimilar from a woman in a kind of abusive relationship.
Of course, this is equally similar to the experience of a woman in love with an autistic or schizophrenic man.
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In terms of the narrative, it is very much straight sci-fi. His time travelling is a birth defect, as you said, and it's about a couple trying to deal with this variable in their relationship that neither of them can master.
However, the author of the book, Audrey Niffenegger, has outright stated several times that it serves as a metaphor for failed relationships. She cites her own failures, and her parent's failed marriage (her dad was on the road for weeks at a time) as the inspiration. So bioball was actually pretty dead-on. It's a very sweet book, though.
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Wife enters a gallery full of semi-nude, semi-artistic pictures of an adolescent girl.
WIFE: Honey, what is this?
Crowd of hipsters turns and sees her, and claps. Husband ignores her and addresses crowd.
HUSBAND: Thank you, thank you. As you can see, the preparation stage of this project has extended over several decades, but I think you'll find the result illuminating.
WIFE: What are you--
HUSBAND: Observe.
He disappears. The crowd gasps.
WIFE: Oh, don't worry, he does that.
He reappears, bearing a tin foil hat.
HUSBAND: Here darling - latest fashion from 2065.
WIFE: How charming!
She puts it on. The crowd claps and oohs.
HUSBAND: Upon further examination, you'll be able to note the careful disintegration of her reality over the course of her entire life. Let me direct your attention to this photo of her tenth birthday.
WIFE: Oh, I had those same bedsheets! Wait.. are these pictures of me??
HUSBAND: Yes of course. You are an art project. I have been manipulating your entire timeline to get you to this particular point in space and time, so I could tear you down in front of a room of strangers. Fun, huh?
WIFE: You're... you're not really a time traveler?
HUSBAND: Of course I am. But you didn't really think a TIME TRAVELER would fall for a regular-looking bird like you? I've been shagging Madame du Pompadour.
WIFE: But... but... mother-fucker! But... Was none of it real?
HUSBAND: Nope! Well, that one time thirty years from now, with the lima beans? That was real. But you're stuck with me till then!
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If a female friend of mine every described to be a situation like this movie or Twilight say, I would tell her to drop the dude.
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if i were artful about it i could even post a quote of comentary on neil as a response like so:
"American theater's reigning misanthrope" -Rob Weinert-Kendt
all with a minimum of effort.
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However, that quote doesn't quite cover the depths of Labutte's batshit misogyny.
I am not a huge fan of Neil Labutte.
Also: has anyone noticed that paragraph breaks have disappeared again?
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Srsly.
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Yes. Ideas. They're those things that are like headaches, only with pictures.
Seriously, what else is going to be in your head? "You almost like start directing the film in your head, with kittehz."
facepalm
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You should give a hint to the fans who want to have a pure, empty mind when they go see Star Trek that some of your articles contain spoilers!
Apparently there is time-travel and there are aliens, two things I wouldn't have expected but now will know are coming... Thanks alot, guys.
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[www.theonion.com]
Hilarious.
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ONION? MORE LIEK ASPARAGUS,BECAUSE IT CAN A "SPARE US" ANY OF ITS ANTI-TREK PROPOGANDA.
That was rather cathartic. (There is a little part of me that loves the boringness of Trek)
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