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    Should the Space Program Join Forces with Reality TV?

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    Image of Klebert L. Hall Klebert L. Hall
    08/05/09

    In reply to Should the Space Program Join Forces with Reality TV?
    "Should the Space Program Join Forces with Reality TV?"
    No.
    For one thing, it would encourage the space program to be filled with internal strife to improve ratings.
    More importantly, this is the mistake that jackass JFK made in the first place, that got us into the situation we're in with NASA today. Making the space program into a public media circus = fail, because the general public thinks it's boring.
    -Kle.
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    Image of Boas_MC Boas_MC
    08/04/09

    In reply to Should the Space Program Join Forces with Reality TV?
    When I was in Johannesburg a few years back, they had a channel that broadcast Big Brother South Africa 24 hours a day. In real time. And wouldn't you know it, but I had people constantly come over to watch. I was actually experiencing insomnia at the time, so I would sometimes pass the late-night hours watching night-vision footage of a bunch of people sleeping. It was strangely comforting.
    All of which is to say, don't underestimate people's penchant for watching absolutely nothing happen on a screen. Though I suppose they could spice things up with an astronaut confessional booth or a boxful of space puppies...
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    Image of gorehound gorehound
    08/04/09

    In reply to Should the Space Program Join Forces with Reality TV?
    excellent !!! Vote em all off to walk the plank in space.
    cause in space no one can hear you scream.
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    Image of OW-Holmes:Bringer of Fear OW-Holmes:Bringer of Fear
    08/04/09

    In reply to Should the Space Program Join Forces with Reality TV?
    Snippit of future dialogue:
    "Whatever, I dont care what you think. I'm not here to make space friends!"
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    Image of k4man k4man
    08/04/09

    In reply to Should the Space Program Join Forces with Reality TV?
    I wouldn't mind a broadcast of Nikolaj Coster-Waldau for whatever reason. Just give him hair this time.
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    Image of CParis CParis
    08/04/09

    @k4man:
    I'll take him with any hairdo!
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    Image of Evil Tortie's Mom: R.O.A.C.H. Evil Tortie's Mom: R.O.A.C.H.
    08/04/09

    @CParis: I miss "New Amsterdam".
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    Image of EBone EBone
    08/04/09

    In reply to Should the Space Program Join Forces with Reality TV?
    If it's going to be a successful reality TV show, the temp on the ship will have to be warm enough to warrant everyone wear bathing suits, and the ratio of female to male astronauts be 2:1.
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    Image of LittleDragon LittleDragon
    08/04/09

    @EBone: you forgot the booze
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    Image of WestMantooth WestMantooth
    08/04/09

    In reply to Should the Space Program Join Forces with Reality TV?
    If it takes some stupid reality show to get people excited about possibly dying a million miles from Earth, then we are doomed.
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    Image of jp182 jp182
    08/04/09

    @WestMantooth: ...wait what? are you talking about people WATCHING OTHERS possibly dying a million miles from Earth?
    I thought this article was talking about filming the 105 day test and not the actual mission.
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    Image of WestMantooth WestMantooth
    08/04/09

    @jp182:
    I know.
    I'm talking about about people not caring about a fake Mission to Mars training more than the thrill of the real thing. I don't think the astronauts would be bored by the actual mission.
    Practicing just sucks. No reality show crap needed.
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    Image of EBone EBone
    08/04/09

    In reply to Should the Space Program Join Forces with Reality TV?
    Should the US version of 'Life on Mars' be added?
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    Image of WestMantooth WestMantooth
    08/04/09

    @EBone:
    Thanks for spoiling it for the rest of us! lol
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    Image of NefariousNewt NefariousNewt
    04/29/09

    In reply to Pack Your SPF-5 Billion: We're Going To The Sun!
    These mission are going to be a real gas.
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    Image of ImTheGarbageman ImTheGarbageman
    04/29/09

    In reply to Pack Your SPF-5 Billion: We're Going To The Sun!
    OK, I'm looking into the 150 years thing, and it is DEFINITELY wrong. Log1c's post above is right.


    I looked at the Telegraph article this links to, and THEY got it wrong, too.


    I'm going to email them and ask where their info came from.


    Here's another link to real info. Its a Power Point presentation about the mission. May take a while to download, but pretty cool.

    [zeus.nascom.nasa.gov]

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    Image of ImTheGarbageman ImTheGarbageman
    04/29/09

    @ImTheGarbageman:

    Here's the real thing.


    [www.esa.int]


    It says "150 days" right there.


    I'm wondering if the error originated with the Telegraph writer or if he copied off someone else's paper.

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    Image of crashedpc - Haifisch crashedpc - Haifisch
    04/29/09

    @ImTheGarbageman: Probably got too excited and rattled off "years" to show off the grandiose scale of things.
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    Image of Log1c Log1c
    04/29/09

    @ImTheGarbageman: AND BAM! You found the error.


    The ESA's probe (ie not NASA) will have an orbital period of 150 days. Which you've just confirmed. NASA's probe has varying orbital periods depending on what orbital path its taking (ie see what I wrote).

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    Image of crashedpc - Haifisch crashedpc - Haifisch
    04/29/09

    @Log1c: Both of you guys rock.
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    Image of Log1c Log1c
    04/29/09

    In reply to Pack Your SPF-5 Billion: We're Going To The Sun!
    150 years isn't anywhere near correct. Its not days either.


    The entire mission has a complete cycle time of 24 orbits totalling 6.4 years. The final 3 orbits within 9.5 Rs or 8.4 Rs* from the Sun's surface occur over a period of 88 days.


    *Rs = 6.96x10^5 km, or (6612000 km and 5846400 km respectively)


    Source: [solarprobe.gsfc.nasa.gov]

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    Image of corpore-metal corpore-metal
    04/29/09

    @Log1c: It's my theory that the wily IO9 editors make these mistakes on purpose to drag us pointy headed physics geeks out of the woodwork.
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    Image of Log1c Log1c
    04/29/09

    @corpore-metal: I'm an engineer, I just read the data sheet ;)
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    Image of crashedpc - Haifisch crashedpc - Haifisch
    04/29/09

    @Log1c: Damn right, that's how we roll. Double checking the max values is up to the design engineer, not the app engineer! *watches things explode*
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    Image of Grey_Area Grey_Area
    04/29/09

    @crashedpc /sarcasm: Oh you silly fellows and your "math"!
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    Image of crashedpc - Haifisch crashedpc - Haifisch
    04/29/09

    @Grey_Area: Math? I connect random wires and pins and see if shit works. Guess and check is alive! Only we call it the "iterative process".
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    Image of Charlie Jane Anders Charlie Jane Anders
    04/29/09

    @Log1c: Ha... Okay I'm taking that reference out. It sounded super weird to me, but I was like, "maybe it's a realllly elliptical orbit!"
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    Image of crashedpc - Haifisch crashedpc - Haifisch
    04/29/09

    In reply to Pack Your SPF-5 Billion: We're Going To The Sun!
    "So, what should we name this landmark space probe?"


    "Solar Probe?"


    "Nah... not bombastic enough."


    "Solar Probe Plus?"


    "Fuck yea, bro!" *slams down a Corona*

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    Image of Kevin Jones Kevin Jones
    04/29/09

    In reply to Pack Your SPF-5 Billion: We're Going To The Sun!
    Sunshine is on my Netflix list.


    Should I just wait for the reality show?

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    Image of crashedpc - Haifisch crashedpc - Haifisch
    04/29/09

    @Kevin Jones: "So, you know, when the Captain like, left the blinds open by accident and fried half of the crewmembers, I felt really hurt, you know?"


    "WHO ATE MY RECONSTITUTED FRIES???"

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    crashedpc - Haifisch was starred crashedpc - Haifisch was unstarred
    Image of Kevin Jones Kevin Jones
    04/29/09

    @crashedpc /sarcasm:


    Next time on The Real World: Sol


    Bo has a blow-up. "Stop it, stop it, just stop touching me man!"

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    Image of crashedpc - Haifisch crashedpc - Haifisch
    04/29/09

    @Kevin Jones: "*bleep* it, bro, every damn time, someone pisses in the wrong tube and it ends up in the showers! What is wrong with people??"
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    crashedpc - Haifisch was starred crashedpc - Haifisch was unstarred
    Image of Kevin Jones Kevin Jones
    04/29/09

    @crashedpc /sarcasm:


    "I keep waiting on Candice to notice me, but she never does. I mean, there are only like seven of us up here..."

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    Image of crashedpc - Haifisch crashedpc - Haifisch
    04/29/09

    @Kevin Jones: "It doesn't matter that she's a smoking heap of charcoal on the mess floor. Bitch didn't reciprocate!"
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    crashedpc - Haifisch was starred crashedpc - Haifisch was unstarred
    Image of Kevin Jones Kevin Jones
    04/29/09

    @crashedpc /sarcasm:


    "Told the bitch not to disrespect me or it'd be like "Blam! Out the airlock."

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    Image of crashedpc - Haifisch crashedpc - Haifisch
    04/29/09

    @Kevin Jones: This is becoming more and more like a survival horror movie. I wish all reality shows would eventually morph into that.
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    Image of acrobatic rabbit acrobatic rabbit
    04/29/09

    In reply to Pack Your SPF-5 Billion: We're Going To The Sun!
    For some reason, 15 inches is a bit thin to me. And we're sending a seemingly flimsy metal satellite to it with only a 15 inch heat shield? I dunno... I don't know the chemistry of the material they use but it seems they would use like, 4 feet-thick of this stuff. I mean it's the frickin sun!
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    Image of crashedpc - Haifisch crashedpc - Haifisch
    04/29/09

    @acrobatic rabbit: I swear I read "Meat Satellite". Mmmm... charbroiled Sun Probe.
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