YES YES YES!!! I own the first one and I pre-ordered this many moons ago. Thank balls its here! According to the Seth interview, they are doing all 6 films..which should be epic!
I bet my left and my right that Chicken-Fett and Solo-peter have one epic fight across space!
@Daveinva: speaking of busting on family guy the fact that the title screen cap is one of a half naked man and the author of this post is meredith is not lost on me.
@Daveinva: I'll fess up. I can't stand
Family Guy, but this thing made me chuckle a couple times. Though not as much as the Robot Chicken ones... which are pretty much the same people I guess.
It seemed to me that the Disneyverse was drawn in JohnK/SpumCO style.
And the Robot Chicken version didn't communicate that well at all. Thanks for the exposition guys. We needed it. At first I thought they were doing Aardman and failing.
A better multiverse/style hopping cartoon is The Fairly Oddparents Changing Channels movie.
It's wasn't a "HottieVerse" really. It was more an AtheistVerse. Where Science was free to advance faster without religions constant intrusions over the centuries. And thus they had the technology to make everyone look good lol.
@Wookie1972: And how is it an oversimplification? It happened to a good extent. It may not be the only thing that has impeded science through the ages, but it is the main one.
It's an oversimplification because in many cases it was religious orders that spurred scientific inquiry and even preserved scientific knowledge in times of ignorance. Genetics was first studied by a Catholic priest. Algebra comes from Muslim scholars. Pascal, Copernicus and Kepler all considered themselves Chrsitians. In the modern age, the Vatican (which, btw, has never condemned the Origin of Speciesd or evolution) has its own astronomer and the late Stephen Jay Gould, while not religious, nonetheless did not dismiss religion entirely. And yet all we hear about is Galileo (who never denounced Christianity, btw) and Creationism.
@Wookie1972: Those are mainly individuals who did good things, didn't just focus their lives on their religion. They don't represent a religions actions by themselves, as they most likely would have followed similar paths regardless of religion, or someone else would have.
Generally religion as a whole has impeded scientific findings which contradict the bible. It hurts them to have something they believe in be proven wrong, so they fight it. It took quite a while for the Vatican to accept evolution. And even still they have currently only accepted macro-evolution, for obvious reasons.
Fact of the matter is, if religion didn't exist, then the millions of people who would have been brought up to believe in it it, would now have a clear mind. They wouldn't have a mind influenced by stories that were pushed into their heads as kids. We would have a society that has a larger percent of people willing to see the evidence that science has put forth, and be more willing to accept it. It would be a society based around science, influenced by science. Not influenced by religious agenda.
@Kakkoii: "Those are mainly individuals who did good things, didn't just focus their lives on their religion. They don't represent a religions actions by themselves, as they most likely would have followed similar paths regardless of religion, or someone else would have."But in the middle ages, a religious education was often the only way to literacy, and indeed, the religious focus was towards preserving the knowledge of the past. This was the work of religious orders, not individuals. Galileo saw his astronomy as a way of understanding God. And Mendel was a *priest*, which I would define as "focusing on religion."
"Generally religion as a whole has impeded scientific findings which contradict the bible. It hurts them to have something they believe in be proven wrong, so they fight it. It took quite a while for the Vatican to accept evolution. And even still they have currently only accepted macro-evolution, for obvious reasons."
Not exactly. In fact, they reserved judgement on evolution, neither condemning or accepting it.
And there are plenty of believers who do not take the Bible literally, but as an allegorical work. That's very hard for atheists to understand or accept.
"Fact of the matter is, if religion didn't exist, then the millions of people who would have been brought up to believe in it it, would now have a clear mind. They wouldn't have a mind influenced by stories that were pushed into their heads as kids."
Stories that for the most part still have psychological resonance and deal with problems of the human condition that science can't answer readily. For example, science can tell us why we die, but creating meaning in life is up to either religion or philosophy.
" We would have a society that has a larger percent of people willing to see the evidence that science has put forth, and be more willing to accept it. It would be a society based around science, influenced by science. Not influenced by religious agenda."
Or we might still be back in the dark ages, because the monks never preserved the works of previous generations. It's a simple fact that in the pre-modern era, religion was one of the main purveyors of knowledge (and no, it was not just so they could "control it.")
I understand that religion has impeded science in some way, but religion is not monolithic. Judaism has always taken the Biblical creation story as allegorical. Other religions have very different relationships with science.
I'm pretty sure that Japan would've surrendered without Hiroshima; the real debate is whether or not the invasion of Japan would've taken more lives than Hiroshima took. (Oddly enough, the estimates of "how many lives a Japanese invasion would take" increased as time went by and the effects of the radiation became more apparent.)
@RocktheDebit: While I also agree Japan would have surrendered, and was in fact moving rapidly toward that point at the time of the nuclear bombings, I do believe the time involved would have meant more Japanese deaths by conventional warfare. One days firebombing of Tokyo by the Americans were claiming more lives than the nuclear bombs did.
@Indigen: The real problem with Hirsoshima and Nagasaki is probably the genie they let out of the bottle. The Cold War centered around which super power had more nukes. Here we are 64 years later worrying about whether or not Iran has the bomb. We worry about whether terrorists have nukes.
An invasion would absolutely, positively cost more American lives than nuking them did. At the time, pretty much nobody in the US gave a rat's ass for the welfare of the Japanese.
-Kle.
@tetracycloide: Impossible to say. I've heard one plausible theory that the real reason they dropped the bombs was to scare the hell out of the Russians.
@MrThunderfield: It has its moments. I have to admit to a little bitterness because it first came out around the same time as Futurama, and while both were not given the best treatment by Fox, it seems like Family Guy has gotten the better of the deal. (Not to mention that MacFarlane seems to have some personal animosity towards the Simpsons, which is fricking ridiculous, IMHO. If it weren't for the Simpsons, there would be no Family Guy, Beavis & Butt-Head, South Park, and pretty much everything on Adult Swim).
Also, and I hate to sound like a big old moralizer here, but often the jokes on Family Guy go for the shock and easy laugh rather than anything well thought out. I'm not of the opinion that there are some things that you shouldn't joke about, but, well, maybe not on an animated show aimed at teenagers.
@Wookie1972: Family guy does go for the shock treatment quite often, agree with you there. However, don't agree that the simpsons is the holy grail for which most adult swim shows (if any) owe a huge debt to. Thats a bit of a stretch don't'cha think? Just because you like something, doesn't make it the miracle that all future projects are only imitating poorly. Also, 37 ain't that old buddy.
@TheGreenRanger: I meant more that The Simpsons was the first successful prime time cartoon since the 60s. If it hadn't been, then all these other cartoons wouldn't have had a chance to succeed. The SImpsons isn't the Holy Grail but the Elvis of animation. I meant that it paved the way, not that everything else is a poor imitation.
(That said, Family Guy is the most blatant imitator of the SImpsons of all of them.)
@clivex:
Yeah, sorta. I mean, that's the time when you go for shock humour.
I remember a chapter in this book by Ken Tucker (longtime TV critic for Entertainment Weekly) in which he lumped in both Family Guy and MST3K because they used obscure references. I thought it was unfair because MST3K used references the way a beat poet would use profanity, whereas Family Guy uses references the way a gangsta rapper does.
@MrThunderfield: You think these comments are bad, remember the time Elmer Fudd and a Velociraptor had a point-counterpoint post regarding the Avatar trailer.
@Wookie1972: I think the whole "animosity" towards the simpsons is false. Sure they had quagmire kill everyone in the family, but I think it was to get back at them for plagerismo. Seth and Matt like each other, and really they see the humor in it all. It's like how the simpsons make fun of fox. But I can't wait till I get home to watch everything.
@xredgambit: Yeah, I dunno about them "liking each other." In any case, Trey and Matt claim that when they did the manatee bit, the writers from the Simpsons came to them and said "thank you for doing what we couldn't do."
As full disclosure, I cannot truthfully say that I have never chuckled heartily at anything Mr. MacFarlane has done, but the show is so scattershot that the whole written-by-manatees theory makes perfect sense.
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I bet my left and my right that Chicken-Fett and Solo-peter have one epic fight across space!
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But I like it, I still chuckle, and this looks fun.
SO THERE!
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Family Guy, but this thing made me chuckle a couple times. Though not as much as the Robot Chicken ones... which are pretty much the same people I guess.
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And the Robot Chicken version didn't communicate that well at all. Thanks for the exposition guys. We needed it. At first I thought they were doing Aardman and failing.
A better multiverse/style hopping cartoon is The Fairly Oddparents Changing Channels movie.
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Don't forget the less flashy but still quite funny Futurama episode.
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I don't care what people believe/don't believe , but the idea that "science has been impeded by religion" is a gross oversimplification.
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It's an oversimplification because in many cases it was religious orders that spurred scientific inquiry and even preserved scientific knowledge in times of ignorance. Genetics was first studied by a Catholic priest. Algebra comes from Muslim scholars. Pascal, Copernicus and Kepler all considered themselves Chrsitians. In the modern age, the Vatican (which, btw, has never condemned the Origin of Speciesd or evolution) has its own astronomer and the late Stephen Jay Gould, while not religious, nonetheless did not dismiss religion entirely. And yet all we hear about is Galileo (who never denounced Christianity, btw) and Creationism.
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Generally religion as a whole has impeded scientific findings which contradict the bible. It hurts them to have something they believe in be proven wrong, so they fight it. It took quite a while for the Vatican to accept evolution. And even still they have currently only accepted macro-evolution, for obvious reasons.
Fact of the matter is, if religion didn't exist, then the millions of people who would have been brought up to believe in it it, would now have a clear mind. They wouldn't have a mind influenced by stories that were pushed into their heads as kids. We would have a society that has a larger percent of people willing to see the evidence that science has put forth, and be more willing to accept it. It would be a society based around science, influenced by science. Not influenced by religious agenda.
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"Generally religion as a whole has impeded scientific findings which contradict the bible. It hurts them to have something they believe in be proven wrong, so they fight it. It took quite a while for the Vatican to accept evolution. And even still they have currently only accepted macro-evolution, for obvious reasons."
Not exactly. In fact, they reserved judgement on evolution, neither condemning or accepting it.
And there are plenty of believers who do not take the Bible literally, but as an allegorical work. That's very hard for atheists to understand or accept.
"Fact of the matter is, if religion didn't exist, then the millions of people who would have been brought up to believe in it it, would now have a clear mind. They wouldn't have a mind influenced by stories that were pushed into their heads as kids."
Stories that for the most part still have psychological resonance and deal with problems of the human condition that science can't answer readily. For example, science can tell us why we die, but creating meaning in life is up to either religion or philosophy.
" We would have a society that has a larger percent of people willing to see the evidence that science has put forth, and be more willing to accept it. It would be a society based around science, influenced by science. Not influenced by religious agenda."
Or we might still be back in the dark ages, because the monks never preserved the works of previous generations. It's a simple fact that in the pre-modern era, religion was one of the main purveyors of knowledge (and no, it was not just so they could "control it.")
I understand that religion has impeded science in some way, but religion is not monolithic. Judaism has always taken the Biblical creation story as allegorical. Other religions have very different relationships with science.
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An invasion would absolutely, positively cost more American lives than nuking them did. At the time, pretty much nobody in the US gave a rat's ass for the welfare of the Japanese.
-Kle.
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Lots of negative comments about Family Guy here btw... What's up with that? It's a hilarious show.
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Also, and I hate to sound like a big old moralizer here, but often the jokes on Family Guy go for the shock and easy laugh rather than anything well thought out. I'm not of the opinion that there are some things that you shouldn't joke about, but, well, maybe not on an animated show aimed at teenagers.
Cripes, I'm getting old.
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(That said, Family Guy is the most blatant imitator of the SImpsons of all of them.)
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Yeah, sorta. I mean, that's the time when you go for shock humour.
I remember a chapter in this book by Ken Tucker (longtime TV critic for Entertainment Weekly) in which he lumped in both Family Guy and MST3K because they used obscure references. I thought it was unfair because MST3K used references the way a beat poet would use profanity, whereas Family Guy uses references the way a gangsta rapper does.
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As full disclosure, I cannot truthfully say that I have never chuckled heartily at anything Mr. MacFarlane has done, but the show is so scattershot that the whole written-by-manatees theory makes perfect sense.