• io9
  • science
  • overmind
  • kotaku
  • gizmodo
  • Profile logout login

#fox

io9

Share Cancel
   
Upload an image | Add an image URL
×

logging in
  • FAQ. Include # before tag:
  • #tips,
  • #calendar,
  • etc.

San Francisco, 8:26 PM
Sat Nov 7
12 posts in the last 24 hours

Team

Tip your editors: tips@io9.com

Editor-in-Chief:
Annalee Newitz | Email

News Editor:
Charlie Jane Anders | Email

Associate Editor:
Meredith Woerner | Email

Assistant Editor:
Lauren Davis | Email

Weekend Editor:
Graeme McMillan | Email

Contributors:
Joshua Glenn
Stephen Goldmeier | Email
Ed Grabianowski | Email
Austin Grossman
Paul Hogan | Email
Lauren Davis | Email
Chris Hsiang | Email
Lynn Peril | Email
Ann VanderMeer
Alasdair Wilkins | Email

Graphic Designer:
Stephanie Fox | Email

Interns:
Tim Barribeau | Email
Julia Carusillo | Email
Alex Eichler | Email
Cyriaque Lamar | Email
Caitlin Petrakovitz | Email
Mary Ratliff | Email
Josh Snyder | Email

More:
io9 on Facebook
follow io9 on Twitter

SUBSCRIBE TO io9 RSS

New: Breaking news and daily top stories via email
1428 Subscribers
io9
  • posts about #fox more →

    Dollhouse Will Give You Closure Before Wiping Your Mind For Good

    Is Dollhouse In Trouble - And Should It Be?

    Never Fear! Everyone's Back On Futurama After All

    Should We Be Bothered About Dollhouse's Debut Move?

    Could Fox's Reincarnation Detective Show Signal The Death Of Scifi?

    Virtuality's Audience Is Lost In Space

    Improv And Transcendence In Ronald D. Moore's Virtuality

    Has Human Target Already Suffered From The Fox Curse?

    What It Would Take For New Firefly?

    Fox To Dollhouse Fan Site: "Shut Up"
  • Your version of Internet Explorer is not supported. Please upgrade to the most recent version in order to view comments.
    Dsmvwl  Admin  Promote to frontpage Approve user Ban user ×
    Image of Ruthless, If you let me Ruthless, If you let me
    10/22/09

    Dollhouse not back until December, avoiding November sweeps.
    [tv.yahoo.com]

    #calendar
    #tips
    #dollhouse
    #fox
     Reply
    Ruthless, If you let me was starred Ruthless, If you let me was unstarred
    Image of Rayc31415 Rayc31415
    10/13/09

    In reply to Dollhouse Will Give You Closure Before Wiping Your Mind For Good
    So basically, if Dollhouse becomes more like Heroes, it will get more episodes. But if it becomes more like Firefly, it will get canceled? So should be be hoping for better or worse storylines?
     Reply
    Evil Tortie's Mom: R.O.A.C.H. promoted this comment Rayc31415 was starred Rayc31415 was unstarred
    Image of collex collex
    10/13/09

    In reply to Dollhouse Will Give You Closure Before Wiping Your Mind For Good
    It's strange, but the most Whedonian show on the air right now is Bones. Instaneously lovable characters, great humor, relationship that ends badly or never come to a satisfying conclusion, weird change-of-pace episodes (Stewie Griffin and Booth coma fantasy), a strong female lead, everything in it screams Joss Whedon. But yet, it is not. Hey, Joss, maybe you can write an episode of Bones after Dolhouse? I'm sure Boreanaz would be happy. Hey, maybe Booth and Brennan has to investiagte in a Goth club, and some girl think Booth could do a fine vampire.

    Or better yet, Booth and Brennan investigate a Buffy convention and everybody thinks Booth looks like Angel. Or they must go undercover at this convention, thus Brennan dress as Buffy and Booth as Spike (yes, pun intended).
     Reply
    geesejuggler promoted this comment collex was starred collex was unstarred
    Image of Evil Tortie's Mom: R.O.A.C.H. Evil Tortie's Mom: R.O.A.C.H.
    10/13/09

    @collex: Gallows humor, snarky quips, twisty plots.
     Reply
    Evil Tortie's Mom: R.O.A.C.H. was starred Evil Tortie's Mom: R.O.A.C.H. was unstarred
    Image of inabook inabook
    10/13/09

    In reply to Dollhouse Will Give You Closure Before Wiping Your Mind For Good
    Hmm, do they count the hulu views at all in their decision making?
     Reply
    inabook was starred inabook was unstarred
    Image of AZTriGuy AZTriGuy
    10/13/09

    In reply to Dollhouse Will Give You Closure Before Wiping Your Mind For Good
    I'm still amazed that shows like "Firefly" and "Dollhouse" have such trouble, while something like "Heroes" can continue to get full season orders, even after the sorry excuse for the last two seasons. I have Tivo'd Heroes so far this season, but I'm honestly scared to watch it. I've been burned so bad by that show that, lesbian kiss or not, there are other shows way ahead in my catch-up queue taking priority over trying Heroes again...
     Reply
    AZTriGuy was starred AZTriGuy was unstarred
    Image of psychiccheese psychiccheese
    10/13/09

    @AZTriGuy: Heroes is still going because it had a larger fan base to begin with. It's not as "sci fi" as Firefly or Dollhouse, so it appeals to more people before when they decide to watch the show. Also, Heroes had a very good first season, and the second wasn't bad.

    Heroes is better this season than last, although the lesbian kiss wasn't really all that great (maybe there's another one later?)
     Reply
    MsFeasance promoted this comment psychiccheese was starred psychiccheese was unstarred
    Image of justsomereportingguy justsomereportingguy
    10/13/09

    @AZTriGuy: Heroes has Sprint paying for it. The ratings could be crap and they could still air
     Reply
    Chuck promoted this comment justsomereportingguy was starred justsomereportingguy was unstarred
    Image of Chuck Chuck
    10/13/09

    @justsomereportingguy: So you're saying we'll need to send some dolls over to Sprint headquarters, and show them how to redirect their ad budget?
     Reply
    Chuck was starred Chuck was unstarred
    Image of Kadayi Kadayi
    10/13/09

    In reply to Dollhouse Will Give You Closure Before Wiping Your Mind For Good
    Good news.l I wasn't expecting the show to stretch to 20 episodes this season anyhows so if we get the 13 that is cool. Though naturally I'd love to see the show renewed.

    Personally I'm more a fan of shorter seasoned shows as overall the quality is improved. The first season of BSG was pretty much flawless, but in season 2 stinkers like 'Black market' appeared because of the shorter production cycle as well as the writer having to come up with a lot more ideas. Better to go for quality rather than quantity. I suspect Fringe would be a lot better if it was a 13 episode series as well.
     Reply
    geesejuggler promoted this comment Edited by Kadayi at 10/13/09 12:04 PM Kadayi was starred Kadayi was unstarred
    Image of Alessar Alessar
    10/13/09

    In reply to Dollhouse Will Give You Closure Before Wiping Your Mind For Good
    I enjoy this show. It's not perfect but it's entertaining. It hasn't really even aired that many episodes yet; if you ignore the episodes that had executive meddling, it's just hitting a regular half-season. Is Eliza's acting a bit weak at times? Yes, but not so much that it ruins the show for me. I do wish it were more ensemble-oriented but it's her production company, she's the lead, so be it.
     Reply
    Alessar was starred Alessar was unstarred
    Image of mordicai mordicai
    10/13/09

    In reply to Dollhouse Will Give You Closure Before Wiping Your Mind For Good
    I have to say, Enver is the real stand out of this show for sure. However this breaks down, I really hope he enters the stable of actors Whedon pulls on.

    Epitaph One was probably the best episode of the series so far. How weird is that?

    That said, it isn't Firefly. It isn't the greatest show on the air. If it gets canceled, I won't rage. Heck, Browncoats are still redlining about Firefly-- & they should, too, that was a heck of a show.
     Reply
    DeltaGuy promoted this comment mordicai was starred mordicai was unstarred
    Image of DeltaGuy DeltaGuy
    10/13/09

    @mordicai: Enver's nipples are definitely the real standout in that above photo.
     Reply
    DeltaGuy was starred DeltaGuy was unstarred
    Image of Michael Jennings Michael Jennings
    10/13/09

    @mordicai: Oh, I think Dichen Lachman is pretty great, too. She has to play second fiddle to Eliza Dushku for contractual reasons, I guess, but she pulls off the different character every week rather better, I think. I don't think Eliza is terrible, that said.

    Basically, I agree though. Firefly deserved another five seasons. Dollhouse has been interesting and I have enjoyed it, but two short seasons will pretty much give me closure.
     Reply
    ggodo, the man from R.O.A.C.H. promoted this comment Michael Jennings was starred Michael Jennings was unstarred
    Image of Julius Seizure - Canuck Julius Seizure - Canuck
    10/13/09

    @DeltaGuy: Yeah, I ... uh... I'm sorry, what was the question?
     Reply
    Julius Seizure - Canuck was starred Julius Seizure - Canuck was unstarred
    Image of DeltaGuy DeltaGuy
    10/13/09

    @Julius Seizure. (the CANUCK one): Joss Whedon is nothing if not a wonderful curator of male forms.
     Reply
    DeltaGuy was starred DeltaGuy was unstarred
    Image of omnibus_spiritus omnibus_spiritus
    10/13/09

    In reply to Dollhouse Will Give You Closure Before Wiping Your Mind For Good
    I'm planning on sticking around for shits and giggles but if they cancel it, and I believe they will, I won't be heartbroken. The acting is not very good and the stories are hit and miss (miss for the most part).
     Reply
    omnibus_spiritus was starred omnibus_spiritus was unstarred
    Image of ExtensionOfBob ExtensionOfBob
    10/13/09

    @omnibus_spiritus: I'm with you. After watching the first two episodes of this season (still haven't gotten to 3 yet) I realized how little I care about this show now. The more Echo there is, the less emotionally engaged I am.

    Since this hasn't filled the TSCC shaped hole in my heart, I can see it go without remorse. It's simply not the best of what Whedon could be offering us and I'd rather he was spending his time giving me something better.
     Reply
    Chuck promoted this comment ExtensionOfBob was starred ExtensionOfBob was unstarred
    Image of Chuck Chuck
    10/13/09

    @ExtensionOfBob: As much as it isn't fair to tie Dollhouse to TSCC (think of all of the even less worthy crap they could have cut and saved both), and as much as I enjoy Dollhouse and pretty much everything else Joss has done....

    ...I'd give it up in a hot moment if we could get TSCC back in its place.
     Reply
    Chuck was starred Chuck was unstarred
    Image of reesiekitty reesiekitty
    10/13/09

    @Chuck: Hear hear! I wasn't prejudiced against DH because Fox canceled TSCC. But TSCC just completely grew on me until I went from being like "it's ok, let's watch it" to not being able to wait to see it each wee and being so fascinated with the actors and the psychology between them. It's just a shame good shows like TSCC and Firefly get canceled and mediocre shows stay on and on...
     Reply
    Evil Tortie's Mom: R.O.A.C.H. promoted this comment reesiekitty was starred reesiekitty was unstarred
    Image of craigdangelo craigdangelo
    10/13/09

    In reply to Dollhouse Will Give You Closure Before Wiping Your Mind For Good
    Fox could try the show on another night of the week that people might actually dedicate to watching tv. But then again this is the same network that destroyed Firefly before it even started by not airing the episodes in the order they were meant to be.
     Reply
    TheLostVikings R.O.A.C.H. promoted this comment Charlie Jane Anders approved this comment craigdangelo was starred craigdangelo was unstarred
    Image of WestMantooth WestMantooth
    10/13/09

    In reply to Dollhouse Will Give You Closure Before Wiping Your Mind For Good
    Epitah One and The "13" will be two finales so thank you, Mr. Whedon, for that.
     Reply
    WestMantooth was starred WestMantooth was unstarred
    Image of Harrison_Bergeron Harrison_Bergeron
    10/13/09

    In reply to Dollhouse Will Give You Closure Before Wiping Your Mind For Good
    Lets face fact. Joss has given us some great television. Dollhouse is not among them. Firefly was wrongly canceled because it was a great show that was never given a fighting chance. If Dollhouse gets canceled it will be because it was comparatively sub-par storytelling with a wooden lead actress and not enough people wanted to watch. Fox has earned my ire due to the fates of Firefly and TSCC, but when they cancel Dollhouse the only people out for war will be rabid Whedonites.
     Reply
    Belabras ate my dingo! promoted this comment Harrison_Bergeron was starred Harrison_Bergeron was unstarred
    Image of Jesse Mrozowski Jesse Mrozowski
    10/13/09

    @Harrison_Bergeron: Thank you. I was worried there would be a bunch of defenders here talking about how Fox didn't give it a fair chance. I believe that even at it's worst Firefly still did better than Dollhouse so no one can say Dollhouse was mistreated.
     Reply
    Jesse Mrozowski was starred Jesse Mrozowski was unstarred
    Image of Mudderofcanton Mudderofcanton
    10/13/09

    @Jesse Mrozowski: You might not like Dollhouse but still better than Heroes, 90 percent of the CW, Lost (please explain the Polar Bear). I think NO ONE gave it a fair shot cus it was getting the "FOX" treatment.
     Reply
    Allen_Richards promoted this comment Mudderofcanton was starred Mudderofcanton was unstarred
    Image of Belabras ate my dingo! Belabras ate my dingo!
    10/13/09

    @Harrison_Bergeron:
    Stating that your opinion is a fact does not actually make it one.
     Reply
    Belabras ate my dingo! was starred Belabras ate my dingo! was unstarred
    Image of Harrison_Bergeron Harrison_Bergeron
    10/13/09

    @Belabras ate my dingo!: No, but abysmal ratings give a good deal of credence to the argument and when have Whedonites ever been considered objective.
     Reply
    Harrison_Bergeron was starred Harrison_Bergeron was unstarred
    Image of Belabras ate my dingo! Belabras ate my dingo!
    10/13/09

    @Harrison_Bergeron:
    After the demise of shows like Dead Like Me, Middleman, and Pushing Daisies, I really cannot buy the whole 'ratings equate to quality' rubric.
     Reply
    Belabras ate my dingo! was starred Belabras ate my dingo! was unstarred
    Image of reesiekitty reesiekitty
    10/13/09

    @Belabras ate my dingo!: But I have to agree with Harrison on this particular show. I am a fairly rabid Wheatonite, but I am starting to loathe Dollhouse because it could be so much better than it is. At this point, if Firefly cannot be resurrected from the grave, I with Joss would just move on to his next cool idea. I never thought I'd say that about a Whedon show and I don't even hate particularly on Eliza or any of the cast, but its just a weak show and the ratings - in this case, not always with every show- reflect that, IMO.
     Reply
    Evil Tortie's Mom: R.O.A.C.H. promoted this comment reesiekitty was starred reesiekitty was unstarred
    Image of Allen_Richards Allen_Richards
    10/13/09

    @Mudderofcanton: I'm pretty sure they did indeed explain the polar bear this season during the retro Dahrma episodes.
     Reply
    Allen_Richards was starred Allen_Richards was unstarred
    Image of Harrison_Bergeron Harrison_Bergeron
    10/20/09

    @Belabras ate my dingo!: I wasn't referring to quality, but the ratings do support my assertion that no one's watching. #dollhouse
     Reply
    Harrison_Bergeron was starred Harrison_Bergeron was unstarred
    Image of Mudderofcanton Mudderofcanton
    10/13/09

    In reply to Dollhouse Will Give You Closure Before Wiping Your Mind For Good
    Yeah there is still wrath from Terminator my little sister is still trying to get the explosives I bought after they cancelled Firefly so she can go to LA and "have a talk with Fox!" Maybe I give them to her maybe I wont we will see how the season ends.
     Reply
    geesejuggler promoted this comment Mudderofcanton was starred Mudderofcanton was unstarred
    Image of geesejuggler geesejuggler
    10/13/09

    @Mudderofcanton: You mean I can finally have them? Yah!
     Reply
    geesejuggler was starred geesejuggler was unstarred
    Image of MrPliskin0 MrPliskin0
    10/13/09

    @geesejuggler: ...if that is your sister; she has a star and you don't... Ouch.
     Reply
    geesejuggler promoted this comment MrPliskin0 was starred MrPliskin0 was unstarred
    Image of geesejuggler geesejuggler
    10/14/09

    @MrPliskin0: Yeah my big sister does not have a star.
     Reply
    geesejuggler was starred geesejuggler was unstarred
    Image of Dween Dween
    10/13/09

    In reply to Dollhouse Will Give You Closure Before Wiping Your Mind For Good
    I still wonder why any sci-fi developers even pitch their shows to FOX!
     Reply
    MsFeasance promoted this comment Dween was starred Dween was unstarred
    Image of octaslash octaslash
    10/13/09

    In reply to Dollhouse Will Give You Closure Before Wiping Your Mind For Good
    With the exception of Firefly, Whedon's shows have had excellent series finales. I expect less from Dollhouse, but only because the other three (Buffy pretty much had 2 of them) are impossible to top.
     Reply
    octaslash was starred octaslash was unstarred
    Image of Batmanuel Batmanuel
    10/13/09

    @octaslash:

    Although it never had a TV finale, I though Serenity made a nice ending to Firefly.
     Reply
    txtphile promoted this comment Batmanuel was starred Batmanuel was unstarred
    Earlier threads | All threads | Show hidden threads | Show featured threads only | Start a new discussion

Login

Enter your username and password.

Please enter a username.
Please enter your password.
logging in
Login via Facebook | Sign Up | Forgot Password?

Reset Password

Please enter your email address to have your password reset.

Please enter your email address.
Please enter a valid email address.
requesting password reset

Register

Registering will give you a user profile and the ability to add other users as friends. To become a commenter, however, you need to audition.

Want to know more? Consult the Comment FAQ and legal terms.

Please enter a username.
Please enter a password.
Please confirm your password.
Passwords are not identical.
Please enter a valid email address.
registration sent, waiting for reply

Submit Your Comment

You don't need to login to comment. Just enter your email address below.

See how your address will be displayed in the Comment FAQ.

Please enter a valid email address.
Please enter a valid email address.
logging in

Login with your Facebook or io9 account.

Sign up here.



  • Archives
  • About
  • Advertising
  • Legal
  • Help
  • Report a Bug
  • FAQ
Original material is licensed under a Creative Commons License permitting non-commercial sharing with attribution.