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    Image of Torley Torley
    12/05/09

    In reply to Monster Worms Are Fringe's Latest Health Craze
    Since Fringe is being filmed in Vancouver, does anyone have pics matching what was onscreen to actual Chinatown locations? They relabeled the geography but some of the vibe felt uncannily similar to when I was last in Vanc years ago.

    For instance, I saw Gain Wah — compare it to 35:35 in the ep. :)

    I also saw the tricolor lottery sign.
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    Image of Chuck Chuck
    12/04/09

    In reply to Monster Worms Are Fringe's Latest Health Craze
    I guess I'm being contrarian this week; I really didn't like this episode much (and I kind of enjoyed Flashforward for a change; maybe I need my dosage adjusted).

    A lot of stuff just seemed off to me, first the "FBI Fail / Superagent Peter" thing -- really, the FBI didn't know what the gangster's tattoos indicated until Peter came along, and Olivia missed every clue in the house that Peter spotted? When he snuck into the bad guys' "lab" at the end, I half expected he'd have them all cuffed and be tapping his heel waiting by the time Broyles and Olivia showed up.

    Also, why would Asian smuggling boats be coming to Boston, when they could have been brought in on the west coast days or even weeks earlier?

    The Walter stuff was compelling, but it seemed like a much earlier, closer-to-the-psych-ward Walter than we've seen in quite a while.

    Any Fringe is pretty good Fringe, but compared to their better episodes I kind of felt like they phoned this one in.
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    Image of mekki mekki
    12/04/09

    In reply to Monster Worms Are Fringe's Latest Health Craze
    In the very last scene after Walter showed off the tracker in his neck and gave Peter the beeping device, did anyone else expect the device to stop beeping and for Walter to disappear the moment he left the room? Like he has been snatched to another dimension?

    I swear, this show is having me think that anything and everything that can happen will happen. So, Walter being kidnapped like alt-Peter and being taken to a mirror verse isn't that far fetched.

    Oh, and how many languages does Peter speak? Arabic, German, English and now Chinese? He's a Babelfish of some sort. I'd kill for that power.
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    Image of DrMathochist DrMathochist
    12/04/09

    In reply to Monster Worms Are Fringe's Latest Health Craze
    I just wish I could look as good as Walter did. When he goes for the sportcoat instead of the windbreaker... man that's classy.
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    Image of Evil Tortie's Mom: R.O.A.C.H. Evil Tortie's Mom: R.O.A.C.H.
    12/04/09

    @DrMathochist: He looked really sharp. Probably why the Chinese lady helped him.
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    Image of CParis CParis
    12/05/09

    @Evil Tortie's Mom: R.O.A.C.H.:
    It looked like he was wearing some sort of robe during his noodle snack at the lady's house. What's up with that - getting a little nookie?
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    Image of PVIII PVIII
    12/04/09

    In reply to Monster Worms Are Fringe's Latest Health Craze
    Kind of a cool episode. Thought the CGI for the worm in the tank was topnotch. Pretty freaky in general (though I still miss the X-files), and liked the Walter subplot.
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    Image of Evil Tortie's Mom: R.O.A.C.H. Evil Tortie's Mom: R.O.A.C.H.
    12/04/09

    In reply to Monster Worms Are Fringe's Latest Health Craze
    Olivia saying "that was unfortunate" when Peter said he'd just eaten made me LOL, and then... ewwww... I'd just eaten. Usually TV doesn't gross me out any more, but I had to avert my eyes a little there. Unfortunate indeed.
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    Image of Bigdamnhero Bigdamnhero
    12/04/09

    In reply to Monster Worms Are Fringe's Latest Health Craze
    I wasn't able to enjoy the Walter Moment this week, as much as others (although Walter tagging himself like a polar bear is amusing). I think it was because I was busy sympathizing with him.
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    Image of nourbatta nourbatta
    12/04/09

    @Bigdamnhero: I was sympathizing with him too, but it was so utterly endearing and so....Walter, that he embedded a freaking chip in his neck so they can find him next time.

    He's just the cutest mad scientist ever.
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    Evil Tortie's Mom: R.O.A.C.H. promoted this comment nourbatta was starred nourbatta was unstarred
    Image of Roklimber Roklimber
    12/04/09

    In reply to Monster Worms Are Fringe's Latest Health Craze
    As I mentioned elsewhere,

    So... another Fringe episode that has nothing to do with the pattern. Not that the episode was bad - it wasn't - but, come on, enough with the monster of the week crap.

    I want to see the main plots (the pattern, Olivia's powers, Peter's origin, the other universe) move along.

    Still, I very much enjoyed Walter's interaction with Astrid. Despite all the reservations I've had and still have in regards to this show, I totally acknowledge that the actor who plays Walter is doing an awesome job.

    Oh, and Olivia's smile and perky eyes. They just melt me every time.
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    Image of Bigdamnhero Bigdamnhero
    12/04/09

    @Roklimber: They seem to be alternating standalone and main arc stories. Once every two weeks doesn't make me happy, but I can live with it.

    I am also happy they decided to flesh out Astrid and Walter out a bit... she had a great moment at the end, where she tells Walter, "It's not your fault." I think she meant it -- but you could see in her face that she recognized it was her fault, for trusting Walter too much, when she knew he wasn't capable of handling himself. You could see that it pained her to make that realization. More Astrid!
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    Image of Roklimber Roklimber
    12/04/09

    @Bigdamnhero: Agreed on your second paragraph. On the first, though, once every two weeks isn't fast enough for me.
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    Image of Lassus Lassus
    12/04/09

    In reply to Monster Worms Are Fringe's Latest Health Craze
    I liked this episode overall, but I would like to give a really really big BOOOOOOOOO to making Astrid such a helpless, clueless, shrinking violet. Really really lame.
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    Image of Roklimber Roklimber
    12/04/09

    @Lassus: Agreed, though it *might* be argued that, although she *is* an FBI agent, she's not been field-trained.
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    Image of Evil Tortie's Mom: R.O.A.C.H. Evil Tortie's Mom: R.O.A.C.H.
    12/04/09

    @Lassus: Totally. Astrid would have been able to deal with all that stuff IRL. They had to make her stupid just so the plot would work.

    Even specialist office agents have to go through boot camp, or whatever they call it in the FBI.
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    Image of Bigdamnhero Bigdamnhero
    12/04/09

    @Lassus: Yeah, it's a little strange. They better not keep smacking her around. She's not Saul Tigh, Fringe writers!
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    Image of Briareosdx Briareosdx
    12/04/09

    @Lassus: I wanted to see them come back from commercial break with one thug on the ground and the other with a gun in his face with Astrid shouting "WHAT DID YOU TO WITH WALTER?" just as Peter and Olivia come in.

    Sure, give her a split lip from the fight for Walter to get emo about, but learning that Astrid's a bad-ass would have made everyone's day.
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    Image of Lassus Lassus
    12/04/09

    @Briareosdx: The writers seem to not be quite that cool. Honestly, even Olivia isn't particularly badass, now that I think about it. When has she ever actually put a beat-down on someone?
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    Image of RoboBagins RoboBagins
    12/04/09

    @Roklimber: Indeed. She probably falls under the heading of Professional Staff, not Special Agent like Olivia.

    This didn't really bug me at all. Have we ever seen Astrid holding a gun? I can't remember any instances.

    Granted this is the TV FBI not the real FBI, but even then do you expect all of their people to be trained in firearm usage let alone other crap like tailing people.
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    Image of NonElitist NonElitist
    12/04/09

    @Evil Tortie's Mom: R.O.A.C.H.: Maybe, but not sure how a 5'2" FBI agent who weighs around 105lbs is gonna do against two heavies with no gun...
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    Image of Evil Tortie's Mom: R.O.A.C.H. Evil Tortie's Mom: R.O.A.C.H.
    12/04/09

    @NonElitist: Running away and dialing 911 instead of staring at them?

    I'd at least have a taser if I was doing her job.
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    Image of Memepunks Memepunks
    12/04/09

    @RoboBagins: Echo that. Proffessional Staff for the FBI would not get the "1000 hours of simulated law enforcement training" that a special agent would get.

    It's possible that Astrid went into the FBI support staff right out of college and has never even fired a gun, let alone mastered close quarters combat at the academy.

    We've already seen that Peter is a ninja, (got the drop on an assassin with a gun to the back of his head) and Olivia out kicked, out drew and killed a mercury blooded super soldier. But I'm glad that Astrid and Walter use their brains o move the story forward instead of pistols and karate.

    Although I'd be OK with one episode where the two of them took out some bad guys using SUPER SCIENCE.
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    Image of Chip Overclock Chip Overclock
    12/05/09

    @RoboBagins: I agree. "Special Agents" are the folks with guns and badges. The majority of FBI personnel are technical and administrative sort, including laboratory experts, data miners, and forensic accountants. Astrid falls more in the camp with the heros of BONES and NUMB3RS.
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    Image of Chip Overclock Chip Overclock
    12/05/09

    @Evil Tortie's Mom: R.O.A.C.H.:
    Agree on the TASER.

    Even among the special agents, the FBI has had to make some accommodations for the fact that not everyone is 6'6" and 200 lbs.

    For example, they originally wanted to replace the 1911 .45 semiautomatic with a 10mm semi, but not everyone could handle the recoil and relatively large size of the 10mm firearm. They compromised on .40S&W (which is sort of a 10mm "short"). Having fired a 10mm several times, and owning several .40 caliber handguns, I have to agree (and I'm not small nor light).

    Mrs. Overclock, who is petite, has no issues with firing a 9mm semi (nor with a 12 gauge shotgun with target loads). I'm sure with a little practice she should handle a .40 if she so chose.
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    Image of CParis CParis
    12/05/09

    @Chip Overclock: Plus you can knock the big guy out with an accurate toss of a large firearm to the skull.
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    Image of Roklimber Roklimber
    12/04/09

    In reply to Monster Worms Are Fringe's Latest Health Craze
    "vagina dentata of a mouth"

    Aka, natural chastity belt. :)
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    Image of BobTheCool BobTheCool
    11/22/09

    In reply to What We've Learned About Fringe's Observers
    how did you know September's name? was that mentioned somewhere in the episode and i just missed it? or was that from a less awesome episode back in the first season when I didn't pay attention to the show quite as much?
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    Image of Bigdamnhero Bigdamnhero
    11/23/09

    @BobTheCool: Seems like a lot of people were unaware... including me, until I read this article. So I went hunting around.

    In the Fox press release for the first season episode "The Arrival", the acting credit for Cerveris as a guest star reads: "Michael Cerveris as September." I think the confusion stems from that, to my knowledge, he's never actually been called "September" by any character in the show (so far).

    [www.fringespoilers.com]
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    Image of Bigdamnhero Bigdamnhero
    11/22/09

    In reply to What We've Learned About Fringe's Observers
    Two things:

    When Brandon the MD lab rat was explaining the Observers experience of time with his blue-water analogy, was anybody else thinking, "chrono-synclastic infundibulum"?

    And: I don't think that September saved Walter and Peter from the lake. The creepy way that story keeps popping up, and especially considering this week's episode, I think September saved Walter... and not Peter. Walter is telling us the story of Peter's death.
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    Image of Dethzilla Dethzilla
    11/23/09

    @Bigdamnhero: I do think The Observer led to Peter's death as a child and the Observer let him steal alternate dimensional Peter.

    I think Walter's fear was that the woman that was kidnapped was another other dimensional person and they came to retrieve her. that's why he was so afraid for Peter.
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    Image of PSac PSac
    11/23/09

    @Bigdamnhero: Interesting theory, although they've also said that original-Peter was very sickly as a child, and he just managed to pull through. The implication then was that he didn't actually pull through. But yes, the lake incident would make a lot of sense as well!
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    Image of Bigdamnhero Bigdamnhero
    11/23/09

    @PSac: I forgot about Peter being sick. There's even more than one explanation for Peter's death!
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    Image of MargaretMoony MargaretMoony
    11/21/09

    In reply to What We've Learned About Fringe's Observers
    For a second, I really, truly thought that the kidnapped chick (Christine?) and August the Observer were going to make-out or something. Kinda of freaked me out but then I thought, "Well, at least it's not Edward and Bella..." Long story short, thanks Twilight for making me semi-okay with creepy romances on Fringe.
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    Image of TemporalOutLaw TemporalOutLaw
    11/21/09

    In reply to What We've Learned About Fringe's Observers
    When is the observer we have been seeing since last season has his name mentioned (September)?
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    Image of MargaretMoony MargaretMoony
    11/21/09

    @TemporalOutLaw: Yep, Olivia/the Bishops' Observer is September.
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    Image of Hungus Hungus
    11/21/09

    In reply to What We've Learned About Fringe's Observers
    The Observers' view of the future sounds Molinistic. They can see the teleological endpoint and likely have contingent knowledge of the middle parts. Quantum theory people would see this as a collapsing probability function
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    Image of Chip Overclock Chip Overclock
    11/21/09

    @Hungus: So... in some sense they're creating the future by their act of observation?
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