While I agree that a modern day Wonder Woman movie would probably be ridiculous...what if it was set during the 1940's? It would far more interesting to see Diana interacting with a society with more restrictive ideas about women than to see her running around today.
@Rhias Hall: That's a really smart idea. There's a lot of interesting material in placing her in a universe whose first response is 'Don't worry your pretty head about it'.
For some reason the line: 'Diana of Themyscira, meet our head writer, Don Draper' has just floated through my mind...
Maybe they just want to get away from her being an Amazon because of the general anti-feminist backlash that's been quite popular in our culture for some time now?
@thrashanddestroy: If anyone else was writing the book, I'd agree. But Gail Simone's not only one of the best writers DC has, she also seems to be one of the very, very few who don't get their work screwed with by editorial. Also, her epic run on Birds of Prey more than proves she can do a story like this and make it more than gratuitous t and a face kicking.
@Finstern: Well-rendered illustration: check. Looks like a physically fit human female with body proportions appropriate to her physique: check.
Add a whip-smart writer, and I will gladly become a patron of that version of WW.
@WestMantooth:Yeah, I'm thinking it's the latter. Wonder Woman's bigness weakness will always be that for men she has to be "do-able" first and an actually ass-kicking character first. Why else would people like Megan Fox even be mentioned. It's like saying Shia LeBeouf should be Superman.
@Finstern: I don't know. I rather think that it might be a good idea to go with a professional actress. Just a thought.
Also, there is never going to be a Wonder Woman movie. Never. The character does not work anymore, but like Superman, she has been around unchanged for too long for a revamp to play either. And since she is the most prominent female superhero, even a campy take will piss people off. You can't make a movie with someone in that ridiculous 40s burlesque outfit, and you can't make Wonder Woman without it.
Many people like spoilers and yes, it has become synonymous with having one up on someone else, but here's my thoughts on reviews.
Reviews are a person's thoughts on the basic aesthetics of a movie--from the cast to the direction to the performance and overall execution of a film/TV show. Yes, that's a fairly traditional view of reviews, but to me, there is something in telling me about the media without telling me the exact details of the story itself. Telling without telling. Generating interest and then letting the viewer ultimately decide by taking in the venue themselves.
Spoilers do exactly that, they spoil. And what's point of spoiling someone's enjoyment? To gloat? To feel you have one up on them? How childish is that? What does it say about you? What does it accomplish? Exactly nothing. Why was RETURN OF THE JEDI such a big to-do? Because it was called BLUE HARVEST and under the tightest wraps at the time.
Just that titillation of knowing I was being kept from "big secrets" in JEDI made me want to jump right in line everytime I saw it on a marquee as a kid. And the movie was everything I hoped it would be when I finally saw it. I enjoyed it immensely. But if a grown up had walked up to me and said, "Ah kid, Leia gets shot and Vader kills the Emperor", I would have been crushed and mad. I would have felt like something was taken away from me.
So my point is this, keep the spoilers to yourself or your close friends who also like that kind of stuff. Your buddies may enjoy that one-upmanship game, but I don't. I'm not your friend. I don't know you. And I tend to think "you stupid jerks" everytime I see a spoiler.
@JunkDNA: Hi Brent, I'm guessing you didn't actually read my essay before you wrote this lengthy response, since I explain how (in my view) spoilers aren't anything to do with gloating, or having "one up" on anyone else.
The way I see it, spoilers aren't that big of a deal, but take Lost for example. The writers intended for you to not know who was in the coffin. You were suposed to find out when they told you, how they told you. They would tell you things the previous week that is only exciting if you take into account the fact that you're not supposed to know who's in the coffin. If you figure it out beforehand, that's great, but until they tell you, there's always some doubt in you.
Basically, spoilers do just that -- they spoil the experience that the writers intended for you to have from the moment that you are spoiled until the point that everyone else knows.
That's why I don't want to know them. The writer doesn't want me to know, and I want to experience the show/movie that the writers want me to.
It's funny that you post this on the day I read the review of Moon, which spoiled the big twist in that for me. I should have known better; Annalee has made it clear that she doesn't care about being spoiled, and I shouldn't have expected her to write a review in the style of say, the NYT, who are always careful to put spoilery stuff near the bottom of the reviews so you can get an impression of the film but still be surprised.
I have a lot of respect for the NYT for that, actually.
@Lampbane: I think Annalee's point was that it's not "the big twist." It's part of the movie's setup, and it happens early on. It's more like revealing that he's on the Moon: It's a big part of the movie's initial premise.
I find (many) useful. Particularly for episodes like Dr. Who where a) rapid delivery of lines with British accents can be difficult to follow and b) decades of dense backstory require a PHD to fully understand the references. Its like Shakespere. You need to view it a few times and read the wikipedia synopsis ore else you won't get it all. Spoilers help you anticipate what to look for.
NothankyouIdonotwantnudeOlmosp.... Even if you email them to me.
Personally I like to keep things in the dark as long as possible. If things get leaked out though.. oh well. My memory is crappy at times and I'll probably be surprised when I find out that he's been dead this whole time.
As a girl who grew up watching Lynda Carter's TV Wonder Woman (I still have my doll!), I have to say I'm a lifetime fan. She was one of the few brunette characters who wasn't considered evil (why is it that blonde=good, brunette=slutty/evil? -- I'm looking at you Bewitched!)
Either way, I've been dying for this movie to be made NOW. The new animated series kicks ass, she always was one heck of lady in the comics, and dammit, I think we're ready for her to come to life on the big screen already.
Come on boys, let the girls have some fun for a change!
@Evil Tortie's Mom: R.O.A.C.H.: Any time. Is it so wrong that I want Dita Von Teese to play Wonder Woman? I can't be the only one who has these thoughts...
Ellen Page should be Wonder Woman. Create a Wonder Woman film that defies expectations.
Maybe the original Wonder Woman retires or something. And over in the Amazon, all the WW-type looking women have become arrogant and slow. Here comes Ellen Page and wins all the contests to become the next Amazonian emissary or whatever.
So now Ellen is WW and she comes to America and is all snarky and the public is like: WTF you're not Wonder Woman, bah bah bah. And Ellen is like [cool repudiation].
And I don't know where Act II goes from there. But I don't see any reason why all the fucking casting for WW are people who like Megan Fox. That my friends is really boring. BORING.
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For some reason the line: 'Diana of Themyscira, meet our head writer, Don Draper' has just floated through my mind...
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"Ok, we need to popularize Wonder Woman so she has mass appeal. Guys, what's hot right now?"
"Well, MMA seems to be a hot ticket. I bet guys would be into girls that cagefight!"
"Genius!"
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BTW I's pay to see that :)
07/25/09
I vote Jessica Chobot to play wonder woman! She looks the part! Check out the fan drawing above!
07/25/09
Add a whip-smart writer, and I will gladly become a patron of that version of WW.
07/25/09
Is she even an actress? Or just someone you wouldn't mind seeing in a tight outfit?
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07/25/09
Also, there is never going to be a Wonder Woman movie. Never. The character does not work anymore, but like Superman, she has been around unchanged for too long for a revamp to play either. And since she is the most prominent female superhero, even a campy take will piss people off. You can't make a movie with someone in that ridiculous 40s burlesque outfit, and you can't make Wonder Woman without it.
07/25/09
Don't even put shit like that out in the universe! Someone might hear you!!!
07/26/09
07/26/09
Some of us born after 1981 don't worship at the alter of Lynda.
07/26/09
@WestMantooth: That's because being born after 1981 you didn't see the first blonde incarnation:
07/26/09
Crosby was terrible.
Lynda Carter was so 20th century.
Casting off fan love for some thirty year-old incarnation is what got us in trouble with Superman.
07/25/09
But... In Gail I trust...
06/25/09
Reviews are a person's thoughts on the basic aesthetics of a movie--from the cast to the direction to the performance and overall execution of a film/TV show. Yes, that's a fairly traditional view of reviews, but to me, there is something in telling me about the media without telling me the exact details of the story itself. Telling without telling. Generating interest and then letting the viewer ultimately decide by taking in the venue themselves.
Spoilers do exactly that, they spoil. And what's point of spoiling someone's enjoyment? To gloat? To feel you have one up on them? How childish is that? What does it say about you? What does it accomplish? Exactly nothing. Why was RETURN OF THE JEDI such a big to-do? Because it was called BLUE HARVEST and under the tightest wraps at the time.
Just that titillation of knowing I was being kept from "big secrets" in JEDI made me want to jump right in line everytime I saw it on a marquee as a kid. And the movie was everything I hoped it would be when I finally saw it. I enjoyed it immensely. But if a grown up had walked up to me and said, "Ah kid, Leia gets shot and Vader kills the Emperor", I would have been crushed and mad. I would have felt like something was taken away from me.
So my point is this, keep the spoilers to yourself or your close friends who also like that kind of stuff. Your buddies may enjoy that one-upmanship game, but I don't. I'm not your friend. I don't know you. And I tend to think "you stupid jerks" everytime I see a spoiler.
/opinion
Kindest regards,
Brent
06/25/09
06/25/09
Basically, spoilers do just that -- they spoil the experience that the writers intended for you to have from the moment that you are spoiled until the point that everyone else knows.
That's why I don't want to know them. The writer doesn't want me to know, and I want to experience the show/movie that the writers want me to.
06/25/09
I have a lot of respect for the NYT for that, actually.
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Personally I like to keep things in the dark as long as possible. If things get leaked out though.. oh well. My memory is crappy at times and I'll probably be surprised when I find out that he's been dead this whole time.
06/07/09
Either way, I've been dying for this movie to be made NOW. The new animated series kicks ass, she always was one heck of lady in the comics, and dammit, I think we're ready for her to come to life on the big screen already.
Come on boys, let the girls have some fun for a change!
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Maybe the original Wonder Woman retires or something. And over in the Amazon, all the WW-type looking women have become arrogant and slow. Here comes Ellen Page and wins all the contests to become the next Amazonian emissary or whatever.
So now Ellen is WW and she comes to America and is all snarky and the public is like: WTF you're not Wonder Woman, bah bah bah. And Ellen is like [cool repudiation].
And I don't know where Act II goes from there. But I don't see any reason why all the fucking casting for WW are people who like Megan Fox. That my friends is really boring. BORING.