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    Image of Bootknife-Jackson Bootknife-Jackson
    11/13/09

    In reply to The Gattaca Police Procedural Show: Bringing Valids And Invalids Together
    oh awesome. i love that movie! though it does sound a bit like Alien Nation..... #gattaca
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    Image of bookwench bookwench
    11/12/09

    In reply to The Gattaca Police Procedural Show: Bringing Valids And Invalids Together
    This could go well, or it could go very badly indeed. I'm hoping for well. Then again, I'm also hoping for someone to make some Margaret Attwood or Lois Bujold stuff into a TV series, which is exactly as likely as my husband saying "you know, bacon is overrated." #gattaca
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    Image of tande04 tande04
    11/12/09

    In reply to The Gattaca Police Procedural Show: Bringing Valids And Invalids Together
    Um, YES.

    This is the first I heard of this but it sounds like a win me. I like the idea. Take what works in TV today and give it a sci-fi spin. #gattaca
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    Image of gorehound gorehound
    11/12/09

    In reply to The Gattaca Police Procedural Show: Bringing Valids And Invalids Together
    if they make it i will try it out.not sure if i care about this idea but i do at least check out any new scifis on tv. #gattaca
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    Image of OlavRokne OlavRokne
    11/12/09

    In reply to The Gattaca Police Procedural Show: Bringing Valids And Invalids Together
    I totally love the movie. It may be my favorite SF film of all time. As such, I'll definitely give this one a chance, and hope it succeds.

    That being said, I have reservations and misgivings about sequels and spin-offs to almost anything, particularly something that was so complete a story.

    Is there anything left to say about the world of Gattaca that wasn't already said in the movie? Are there any more themes that need to be explored in that setting?

    Gattaca was (and is) a complete narrative; anything spun off only risks tarnishing something unique and precious. #gattaca
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    Image of AngriestGeek AngriestGeek
    11/12/09

    In reply to The Gattaca Police Procedural Show: Bringing Valids And Invalids Together
    Will they jettison the movie's fatal flaw in that it makes perfect sense you wouldn't let someone with a heart problem be a navigator on a space ship? #gattaca
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    Image of Strakus Strakus
    11/12/09

    @AngriestGeek: He's an astronaut. Astronauts get cardiac screenings. He'll be subjected to high-g's at launch, midcourse burns, aerobraking and landing (if they're doing either of those things at Titan,) not to mention being years removed from comprehensive medical care. Hell, recreational pilots get cardiac screenings- it's a regular cause of retirement for airline captains. Doesn't strike me as a wallbanger in the least.
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    AngriestGeek promoted this comment Edited by Strakus at 11/12/09 12:48 PM Strakus was starred Strakus was unstarred
    Image of AngriestGeek AngriestGeek
    11/12/09

    @Strakus: Exactly. He was hiding his ailment and I'm supposed to cheer him at the end when he bypasses the screenings that would have revealed it!?! I'd love to see the faces on the rest of the crew when they find out their navigator has a genetic heart defect. #gattaca
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    Image of Strakus Strakus
    11/12/09

    @AngriestGeek: Oh, sorry. I misunderstood. I added an unnecessary negative in there somewhere. It made for some good scenes like the whole treadmill episode. On the whole it didn't bother me too much- it seemed clear that his heart condition had more to do with his rivalry with his brother and his family's disappointment than his not being accepted at Gattaca, which wasn't going to be taking anyone that didn't have the genegineering stamp of approval, apparently healthy heart and mind or not. After all, coupled to that long history of flight surgeons bouncing people is people doing everything they can to ace out the flight surgeons. He keeps working out like that, maybe he'll be okay, and they underestimated his heart just like his mind. #gattaca
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    Image of Mikekearn says hello Mikekearn says hello
    11/12/09

    @AngriestGeek: It's been a long time since I've seen the movie, but I thought the point was that he had a 1 in a hundred chance of having a heart defect develop. Not that he already had one, he just had a higher chance of having one. That was far too high a chance for the Gattaca people, though, hence his denied entry. #gattaca
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    Image of DireWombat DireWombat
    11/12/09

    @AngriestGeek: See, I always felt that it was heavily implied (e.g., by his still being alive past his "expiration date" despite a life of extreme physical exertion) that there was nothing actually wrong with his heart... maybe not quite as perfect as that of a "valid," but not actually defective as the genetic test would have it.

    Instead, I thought the issue was that the genetic tests showed such a high probability of a heart defect that no one cared that all other evidence pointed to no actual defect being present. But yeah, the story becomes (at least) very morally ambiguous if your understanding is that he does, in fact, have an imminently lethal heart defect. #gattaca
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    Image of rhmoon rhmoon
    11/12/09

    @Strakus:

    Part of the point of the movie was that he *didn't* have a heart condition. He had a genetic predisposition to having a heart condition, which in and of itself was enough to disqualify him from his dreams. The only real deficiency he had was that he wasn't a GE'd superman when it came to running...
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    Evil Tortie's Mom: R.O.A.C.H. promoted this comment rhmoon was starred rhmoon was unstarred
    Image of Bill-Lee Bill-Lee
    11/12/09

    @AngriestGeek: Having a genetic predisposition to a certain trait is not the same as having it. Genetics is not destiny. #gattaca
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    Image of bookwench bookwench
    11/12/09

    @Strakus: If he were a real astronaut, he'd have disqualified himself because he'd understand that his (as stated, likely) death could cause the complete failure of the mission and the deaths of all those who relied on him. #gattaca
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    Image of bookwench bookwench
    11/12/09

    @The Mikekearn of La Mancha: I thought he really had a heart condition? Huh. #gattaca
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    Image of Strakus Strakus
    11/13/09

    @bookwench: Haha, hell no. I'm lucky enough to get t0 pal around (well, not quite that familiar, but talk regularly) with some astronauts for a week out of every summer and fall, of both capsule and shuttle vintage, and there are two common threads- they will never, ever, ever let themselves get grounded for a medical, and they would happily murder members of their family to fly. #gattaca
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    Image of bookwench bookwench
    11/13/09

    @Strakus: You're not reassuring me about the future of our space program... #gattaca
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    Image of AngriestGeek AngriestGeek
    11/13/09

    @Bill-Lee: That doesn't relieve him of the moral responsibility to inform people whose lives depend on him being in perfect health that no matter how slight, he's got a potential to die while they're in deep space. It's a a tremendous flaw in someone we're supposed to be rooting for, especially when he's being mistreated by the status quo. It reeks of hypocrisy.
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    Edited by AngriestGeek at 11/13/09 6:54 AM AngriestGeek was starred AngriestGeek was unstarred
    Image of Bill-Lee Bill-Lee
    11/13/09

    @AngriestGeek: Oh noes...Moral ambiguity in a movie. Ethan Hawke's character is morally imperfect and may have made a series of increasingly selfish decisions...that's what makes it good drama rather than a two-dimensional Gene Roddenberry style morality tale. #gattaca
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    Image of AngriestGeek AngriestGeek
    11/13/09

    @Bill-Lee: That's what makes it far from the "human triumph" it makes itself out to be. It's in fact proof that if you're truly committed to being devious and selfish, you can accomplish anything. #gattaca
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    Image of dnwilliams dnwilliams
    11/12/09

    In reply to The Gattaca Police Procedural Show: Bringing Valids And Invalids Together
    please be good #gattaca
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    Image of TemporalSword TemporalSword
    11/12/09

    In reply to The Gattaca Police Procedural Show: Bringing Valids And Invalids Together
    Sounds kinda cool to me. I give it 12 episodes before Fox cancels it. #gattaca
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    Image of Byronotron Byronotron
    11/12/09

    @TemporalSword: i see your 12 and raise you one more season. #gattaca
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    Image of TemporalSword TemporalSword
    11/12/09

    @Byronotron: You're bluffing. #gattaca
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    Image of bookwench bookwench
    11/12/09

    @TemporalSword: You're going for a full 12? dang, you're an optimist... #gattaca
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    Image of Jesse Astle Jesse Astle
    11/12/09

    In reply to The Gattaca Police Procedural Show: Bringing Valids And Invalids Together
    Good cop, bad cop team up with a twist. Seen it before.

    Although, I seem to remember a short lived show called Century City or something like that, which is a court drama set in the future. And it was really well done. So, I'm optimistic. Just as long as they keep the film noir aspects of the movie.

    It might be interesting to see the effects that Vincent's act of rebellion had on the society at large. #gattaca
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    Meredith Woerner promoted this comment Jesse Astle was starred Jesse Astle was unstarred
    Image of Byronotron Byronotron
    11/12/09

    @Jesse Astle: why can't we ever have a sci fi show that's good social worker/bad social worker. #gattaca
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    Image of avidreader514 avidreader514
    11/12/09

    In reply to The Gattaca Police Procedural Show: Bringing Valids And Invalids Together
    They'd do well to throw in a dash of Code 46, another great (though with an extremely creepy ending) movie about genetic predestination/incompatibility. #gattaca
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    Image of Nivenus Nivenus
    11/12/09

    In reply to The Gattaca Police Procedural Show: Bringing Valids And Invalids Together
    Could indeed be very interesting. Or, if badly handled, could end up being an anvilicious "science is bad" show (which the film verged upon while still being entertaining and touching on important problems with the central idea).

    Hopefully the former. #gattaca
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    Image of RandomFrequentFlierDent RandomFrequentFlierDent
    11/12/09

    @Nivenus: This is exactly what I thought on reading the article. I enjoyed the movie for its entertainment factor, but I wasn't a fan of the message. I think a television series will have a hard time not straying into the "They am play god" territory the movie came close to.

    It drives me crazy when people seem to think that seeing the movie Gattaca is the only requirement for having an intelligent conversation about genetic engineering. I'll stop now before I get into "ranting" mode. #gattaca
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    Image of Garrison Dean: R.O.A.C.H. Garrison Dean: R.O.A.C.H.
    11/12/09

    In reply to The Gattaca Police Procedural Show: Bringing Valids And Invalids Together
    Hey on the bright side... More work for Jamie Bamber right? I'm just gonna go out on a limb and say he'll be in this, as will much of Vancouver. #gattaca
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    Image of AmishJohn AmishJohn
    11/12/09

    In reply to The Gattaca Police Procedural Show: Bringing Valids And Invalids Together
    I liked this better when it was called Alien Nation. #gattaca
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    Image of hannigan_rex hannigan_rex
    11/12/09

    @AmishJohn: Yeah, milk as a drug is pretty cool. Also, head freckles. #gattaca
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    Image of Jeremy Tapsell Jeremy Tapsell
    11/12/09

    @hannigan_rex: mmm.... head freckles = totes hot #gattaca
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    Image of J_Frank_Parnell J_Frank_Parnell
    11/12/09

    In reply to The Gattaca Police Procedural Show: Bringing Valids And Invalids Together
    I hope this show isn't full of hamfisted moral proselytizing like the US version of Life on Mars was. #gattaca
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    Image of ManchuCandidate ManchuCandidate
    11/12/09

    In reply to The Gattaca Police Procedural Show: Bringing Valids And Invalids Together
    At least the technology will be more plausible than CSI's wunder gear. #gattaca
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