I sometimes have a moment of total alienation from myself. It's not quite amnesia, I know who I am in the abstract, but that's just it, it's abstract - a jamais vu of the self. Sort of like, "Wait, who am I? Oh yes, this is my name and this is my address. I am apparently the person who fits that profile." It's incredibly eerie. Other people have told me of a similar feeling. Sometimes I wonder if it's a tiny stroke or seizure or something. I guess our identities are so complex, it's no great surprise that they could slip away from us on occasion.
@MonstersAndRockets: I know exactly what you're talking about. I've had the same thing since I was a kid, way before I'd ever tasted alcohol or any other mind altering substance. It's always accompanied by a sense of cloudy spaciousness for lack of a better description.
@Gann: There's a moment in "Life, the Universe and Everything" where Arthur Dent is in great danger on the side of a mountain and he suddenly has what Douglas Adams describes as "one of those 'self' moments", in which he disassociates from himself and ponders his place in the universe. Reading that as a kid tripped me out, because I'd never heard anybody talk about it before. But it made me feel a little weird about the whole thing.
My brother has seizures of the grand mal variety. He used to have them at least twice a day or more, but now its mostly when he wakes up from sleep (can either attribute this to the medication or vagus nerve stimulation implant).
After having a seizure, he has absolutely no clue who/where he is, and can sometimes be incredibly violent afterward. Other times he just starts trying to talk, but is unintelligible.
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Now I feel sad that my epilepsy is so normal. Just regular left-temporal lobe epilepsy.
Actually, I think it would be terrible to have the more 'interesting' kinds of epilepsy, if only because they would affect your life more.
I am sad that I'm neither a creative or tactical genius like some famous epileptics were though.
my best friend is epileptic and shes had many seizures that dont lead to anything more than a visit to the hospital, her GP and then given stronger medication. But this year she changed doctors and for some strange reason he thought she was better and took her off her strongest pill. Now this woman drives for a living and having her wits about her is integral to her job. So yu can imagine how bad this year has been when her worst seizure came on and she was found zoned out in her bathroom. Now shes finding it hard to drive, infact she finds it hard to even open a car door. She just stands there and scratches her head! The human mind is a very strange thing, I suoppose having seizures is like constantly throwing little spanners into the machine, one day its going to break. Like this poor woman in io9's news.....
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She's lucky they allow her to drive -- many places have antiquated ideas and don't allow epileptics to get licenses. Which of course means that people with seizure disorders don't mention them to their doctors lest they get reported.
@Evil Tortie's Mom: R.O.A.C.H.: Shes back on the pills now. But the damage is already done. Luckily here in the UK its a bit bette for epeleptics to get a liscence! There is a bufferzone in which they have to prove theyve not had fits/seizures in a long time period. Its all red tape and PC police!
I don't know any people that suffer from seizures,but I used to have a dog that suffered them. After seizures she would get violent and attack me, she had no idea who i was and would run from me. It always reminded me of a computer rebooting, after a few minutes everything was back to normal.
@burlybax: That's actually pretty much what a seizure is. The brain gets buggy and goes bluescreen, and then reboots. Like a computer, before the crash it often gets buggy (some have deja vu, some experience weird smells, etc) and then crashes. Depending on how it crashes, there can be convulsions (or not), memory loss, brain damage (generally if the seizure lasts too long) and so on.
I've cared for epileptic animals in my work (I own and run a dog boarding business) and after a seizure they're usually just really confused. They wander around, bonk into walls, fall over etc. When a dog has had a LOT of seizures, that weird state can last for hours or even days. What you describe isn't unheard of, but it's not the rule. If you have an epileptic pet, ask your vet about keeping a vial of valium handy in case of seizure. The vet will tell you to use a pre-prepared syringe to push the valium into the animal rectally (it'll be absorbed really fast that way, and needles around a seizing animal aren't safe). Even if given right after the seizure, it'll help to prevent more seizures as they often come in groups.
@nagumi: I love how when the worlds technical paradigms shift, the medical explanations change to accept the new terminology.
130 years ago, you would have explained this using steam pipes, and 100 years ago it would have been electrical. 60 years ago it would have been vacuum tube technology.
@burlybax: Sounds like a dog I had once. His eyes would roll back and he'd start swinging his head around and trying to back up. It would go on for several minutes and when it was over he'd be sort of confused and really, really tired.
Annalee makes excellent points. However, I have actually presented a paper at a conference on this exact topic and I want to put forward the following arguments:
1. Battlestar is a fundamentally partriarchal universe. Yes women and men occupy similar positions of power. But again and again women and NOT men are responsible for bringing desctruction and chaos to the Battlestar universe. Ie: Starbuck is the harbinger of doom. As Annalee wrote, Adama held up the fleet to wait for Starbuck to try to find Earth. Adama potentially endangered the fleet due to his love for a woman, Starbuck. And when we get to Earth...we get a wasteland. Adama allowed people to stay on New Caprica despite his own instinct that the position was unsafe. Why? Because he loved Roslin and she was determined to stay. A 6 began the war with humans in the first place by using Baltar to get records on Caprica. Who steals Herra? A female, Boomer. Who seduced Helo in the first place to produce Herra? Athen.
2. And what about Baltar? He's helps to bring chaos to the Battlestar Universe too! He's a man! I would also argue that he is played as a fop. He's tiny compared to the other charactrs, he is the only main character who uses his native foreign accent, for most of the series he was the only male with long hair. He is feminized. And part of being a feminine character is being destructive. Leoben is also destructive , but I would argue that everything he does to disrupt the BSG universe is due to his obsession with Starbuck. A women.
3. And what about Cain? Isn't it interesting that the most bloodthirsty and torture happy female character is a LESBIAN?! Now, one could argue she is coded as butch. Shouldn't her actions align with the male characters then? But as a lesbian, who does not have sexual desires for men, she is even more feminine. She is seperate from men. Ultimatly female. Much more destructive. Razor is one long story about the awful things that women are capable of.
I heart BSG. I am devestated that it is ending. But I noticed such a strong trend I had to get all academic about it. I agree that this patriarchal undertone is completely inadvertent. But it's still there.
I was underwhelmed by the Slate article, but I came away with the conclusion that it as fundamentally correct: the BSG universe is not gender-blind. I think the best evidence of that is the continued debate over the legality of abortion, as evidenced in "The Captain's Hand" (and unmentioned in the article). The creators may have written a less gender-bound universe, as evidenced by women in combat, but if abortion is still a political issue, then sexism is as well.
But the aside about sexual violence being "directed only at women" is compelling, too. Men are not immune to sexual violence and people are not ignorant of that, as men who have been victims of torture can tell you. It's commonplace. Yet on BSG, it's nonexistent.
Baltar's torture at Three's hands is a good example: they have the setup correct, right down to the electrodes. But where does Three, that sadistic product of a reproduction-obsessed culture, attach the electrodes? Baltar's fingers. Yeah, right.
Then there is the ménage à trois, which I really doubt is among the CIA's "enhanced interrogation techniques." I suppose you can argue that it's "torture," but you can't say it's realistic.
To me, that illustrates the sexism of the writers: they're willing to inflict the full range of violence upon their female characters, but in the case of their male characters, they hold back.
So in BSG, it's really not true that "When you dehumanize a male, you simply beat him any way you can." You beat him in every way except one.
Okay, I get really upset whenever people start spouting the "Cally is just a hysterical woman" argument. I think that is an incorrect assumption of what she's dealing with. Not only does it make the suffering of real mental illness seem insubstantial, but it trivializes the fact that not all women are the same. So yeah, Cally is high strung, and she's got the meds to prove it. She's suffering from a worse version of what most of the civilians and crew of the fleet must be feeling, Post Traumatic Stress Syndrome. I also personally feel that her character was meant to be truly going through a mental illness fugue. PTSD, post partum depression, or any other number of illnesses can be attributed to her. That doesn't make her a "weak, hysterical woman" but make her a real woman, suffering from disease. If you can write a whole article about why Cally proves that the show suffers from the effects of not being created in a post feminist society, then you've just missed the point. Just as a lot of people feel that Cally is stereotype of a bad kind of woman, some of us feel that Cally is just one type of woman, written as a mentally ill character, and consistently misunderstood. It speaks more to the bias and misconceptions others have against the mentally ill than it does feminism.
Lapidos confuses the characters' failures to meet feminist ideals with the show's failure to meet feminist ideals. If the characters all met those ideals they'd have no flaws and they'd be boring. However, the show does highlight the gap between ideals and reality as the place where the problems arise and as such is as successfully feminist as might be possible while also being successfully dramatic.
Having all the characters showing themselves to be unlikeable failures at one time or another is a feature in my book.
@radarskiy: you are 100% correct - it's like when people read novels and confuse the speaker's or characters' beliefs with that of the author :: Lapidos didn't do a very good job analyzing the show properly.
I'm not sure why all the comments are saying, "Right on!" and "Lapidos doesn't get it." The conclusions are about the same:
LAPIDOS: "My hunch is that the gender inequities on Battlestar are unintentional; the writers don't sit around inventing new, technologically advanced ways to denigrate women. Yet because the writing staff lives on Planet Earth in 2009, not on Capricia in the distant future, chauvinism creeps onto the show."
ANNALEE: "The show more or less successfully depicts a universe where women and men are equal in the realms of work and family. However, BSG was not made in a post-feminist world, so there are all kinds of hiccups where you get retrograde characters like Cally, or naked cylon chick fetishism, that are relics of our own society, which still so desperately needs a feminist slap upside the head on a regular basis."
...which is saying the same thing. But the former says: don't hold this up as a feminist paragon. The second says: well, yeah, there is plenty for a feminist to critique but I still want to believe it's a great work of feminism.
I'll go with the former. In any feminist study you can come up with works that try to depict a gender-equal world but the true nature of the creator creeps in revealing inherent sexism. Those works are critiqued as anti-feminist. Feminists don't argue away, "Well, yeah, it was written by men in sexist times so it's okay."
@SarupraniMink: I think that BSG counts as feminist, despite what I refer to as "hiccups" that I think are unavoidable. There is no way for us to escape our historical mindset: We cannot create a perfectly post-feminist narrative because we live in an era when feminism is still necessary. But I do think we can call out stories like BSG which really up the ante when it comes to depicting a world where men and women are equal. You don't just toss something like that away because it isn't perfect.
Good article, although I must take issue with the statement that Anders is hunkier than Apollo. They're both cute. Anders is just taller, if you like that sort of thing, but taller doesn't necessarily mean better-looking, at least in my book.
@redqueenmeg: Heh. The only boy for me on this show was Gaeta - and occasionally Tyrol. So I'm willing to bow to your greater knowledge on the Lee vs. Anders debate.
@redqueenmeg: Height matters to me, since I'm probably the same height as Lee. Although Lee has amazing bone structure, I'd frak Anders first. Then Lee. Then Baltar. Although, Starbuck did this in a slightly different order.
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After having a seizure, he has absolutely no clue who/where he is, and can sometimes be incredibly violent afterward. Other times he just starts trying to talk, but is unintelligible.
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Actually, I think it would be terrible to have the more 'interesting' kinds of epilepsy, if only because they would affect your life more.
I am sad that I'm neither a creative or tactical genius like some famous epileptics were though.
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She's lucky they allow her to drive -- many places have antiquated ideas and don't allow epileptics to get licenses. Which of course means that people with seizure disorders don't mention them to their doctors lest they get reported.
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I've cared for epileptic animals in my work (I own and run a dog boarding business) and after a seizure they're usually just really confused. They wander around, bonk into walls, fall over etc. When a dog has had a LOT of seizures, that weird state can last for hours or even days. What you describe isn't unheard of, but it's not the rule. If you have an epileptic pet, ask your vet about keeping a vial of valium handy in case of seizure. The vet will tell you to use a pre-prepared syringe to push the valium into the animal rectally (it'll be absorbed really fast that way, and needles around a seizing animal aren't safe). Even if given right after the seizure, it'll help to prevent more seizures as they often come in groups.
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130 years ago, you would have explained this using steam pipes, and 100 years ago it would have been electrical. 60 years ago it would have been vacuum tube technology.
Edit: BTW, I'm not snarking. I love the analogy.
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Lapidos is attacking BSG for something that was never there, for the purposes - or so it seems to me - of proving outwronged by the work. Why?
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1. Battlestar is a fundamentally partriarchal universe. Yes women and men occupy similar positions of power. But again and again women and NOT men are responsible for bringing desctruction and chaos to the Battlestar universe. Ie: Starbuck is the harbinger of doom. As Annalee wrote, Adama held up the fleet to wait for Starbuck to try to find Earth. Adama potentially endangered the fleet due to his love for a woman, Starbuck. And when we get to Earth...we get a wasteland. Adama allowed people to stay on New Caprica despite his own instinct that the position was unsafe. Why? Because he loved Roslin and she was determined to stay. A 6 began the war with humans in the first place by using Baltar to get records on Caprica. Who steals Herra? A female, Boomer. Who seduced Helo in the first place to produce Herra? Athen.
2. And what about Baltar? He's helps to bring chaos to the Battlestar Universe too! He's a man! I would also argue that he is played as a fop. He's tiny compared to the other charactrs, he is the only main character who uses his native foreign accent, for most of the series he was the only male with long hair. He is feminized. And part of being a feminine character is being destructive. Leoben is also destructive , but I would argue that everything he does to disrupt the BSG universe is due to his obsession with Starbuck. A women.
3. And what about Cain? Isn't it interesting that the most bloodthirsty and torture happy female character is a LESBIAN?! Now, one could argue she is coded as butch. Shouldn't her actions align with the male characters then? But as a lesbian, who does not have sexual desires for men, she is even more feminine. She is seperate from men. Ultimatly female. Much more destructive. Razor is one long story about the awful things that women are capable of.
I heart BSG. I am devestated that it is ending. But I noticed such a strong trend I had to get all academic about it. I agree that this patriarchal undertone is completely inadvertent. But it's still there.
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But the aside about sexual violence being "directed only at women" is compelling, too. Men are not immune to sexual violence and people are not ignorant of that, as men who have been victims of torture can tell you. It's commonplace. Yet on BSG, it's nonexistent.
Baltar's torture at Three's hands is a good example: they have the setup correct, right down to the electrodes. But where does Three, that sadistic product of a reproduction-obsessed culture, attach the electrodes? Baltar's fingers. Yeah, right.
Then there is the ménage à trois, which I really doubt is among the CIA's "enhanced interrogation techniques." I suppose you can argue that it's "torture," but you can't say it's realistic.
To me, that illustrates the sexism of the writers: they're willing to inflict the full range of violence upon their female characters, but in the case of their male characters, they hold back.
So in BSG, it's really not true that "When you dehumanize a male, you simply beat him any way you can." You beat him in every way except one.
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Why didn't the electrodes get attached to the manly equipment? Why do the guys only get beaten up and not butt-frakked?
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Having all the characters showing themselves to be unlikeable failures at one time or another is a feature in my book.
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LAPIDOS: "My hunch is that the gender inequities on Battlestar are unintentional; the writers don't sit around inventing new, technologically advanced ways to denigrate women. Yet because the writing staff lives on Planet Earth in 2009, not on Capricia in the distant future, chauvinism creeps onto the show."
ANNALEE: "The show more or less successfully depicts a universe where women and men are equal in the realms of work and family. However, BSG was not made in a post-feminist world, so there are all kinds of hiccups where you get retrograde characters like Cally, or naked cylon chick fetishism, that are relics of our own society, which still so desperately needs a feminist slap upside the head on a regular basis."
...which is saying the same thing. But the former says: don't hold this up as a feminist paragon. The second says: well, yeah, there is plenty for a feminist to critique but I still want to believe it's a great work of feminism.
I'll go with the former. In any feminist study you can come up with works that try to depict a gender-equal world but the true nature of the creator creeps in revealing inherent sexism. Those works are critiqued as anti-feminist. Feminists don't argue away, "Well, yeah, it was written by men in sexist times so it's okay."
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