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    Dick Believed Blade Runner Would Revive a Dying Genre

    Margaret Atwood Says She Doesn't Write Science Fiction, Ursula K. Le Guin Disagrees

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    Image of Sugar Boots Sugar Boots
    10/13/09

    In reply to Dick Believed Blade Runner Would Revive a Dying Genre
    I love PKD and with all of the crap movies that have been made from his books (I'm talking to you Affleck), it is a pleasure to be reminded how great a film can be.
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    Image of disatess disatess
    10/13/09

    In reply to Dick Believed Blade Runner Would Revive a Dying Genre
    My Dad took me to see the film in theatres back in 1982, I was so in awe of the film . When Roy Batty was chasing Deckard , it gave me a sense of true horror .
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    Image of gods-n-clods gods-n-clods
    10/13/09

    In reply to Dick Believed Blade Runner Would Revive a Dying Genre
    Putting on the 20/20 hindsight goggles, do we agree Dick is correct? He sounds like a flugelhorn for a PR machine, but the hyperbole is just eagerness and enthusiasm.
    I think Dick was right to a degree. We are measuring other sci-fi products to the Blade Runner and PKD standard.
    That, and if I have to say it again, pick up the damn remastered soundtrack by Vangelis. That album is a masterpiece in and of itself, and is still inspiring tech/downtempo/glitch music.
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    Image of burlybax burlybax
    10/13/09

    @gods-n-clods: I agree, click back to the main page, scroll down to the morning spoilers, and look at the "sci/fi" we are presented with today, garbage if you ask me. PKD represents a different kind of science fiction, the kind not to be taken lightly.
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    gods-n-clods promoted this comment burlybax was starred burlybax was unstarred
    Image of disatess disatess
    10/13/09

    @gods-n-clods: hear hear.
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    Image of LovelyHue LovelyHue
    10/13/09

    @disatess: I think he was right to an extent. Blade Runner defines the pop culture conception of science fiction. However, I think that there were probably amazing science fiction novels and short stories being written and perhaps published at this time - I find it hard to believe that the genre was ever "dead" or "dying".

    People are always writing interesting stuff. It just doesn't always get a lot of attention.
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    gods-n-clods promoted this comment LovelyHue was starred LovelyHue was unstarred
    Image of disatess disatess
    10/14/09

    @LovelyHue: there was a point before star wars , sci-fi movies seem to be a great joke and not taken seriously ,which almost made it die out or be come stale .
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    Image of Golem100 Golem100
    10/13/09

    In reply to Dick Believed Blade Runner Would Revive a Dying Genre
    Thanks for showing the image of the letter instead of a transcription. It's interesting to see the typo corrections in the second paragraph.
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    Image of txtphile txtphile
    10/13/09

    In reply to Dick Believed Blade Runner Would Revive a Dying Genre
    PS: Do not take this letter as implicit permission to rape my bibliography. For example, I would hate to see Paycheck turned into a mindless action movie. Seriously, I will haunt you, Hollywood.
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    Image of soulfinger soulfinger
    10/13/09

    @txtphile: If ever there was a PKD-based film I would love to see re-made, it's Paycheck. Seriously Woo and Affleck f-ing ruined this film that had such a great premise.
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    Image of Dr Emilio Lizardo Dr Emilio Lizardo
    10/13/09

    In reply to Dick Believed Blade Runner Would Revive a Dying Genre
    He needs a new toner cartridge for his printer.
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    Image of disatess disatess
    10/13/09

    @Dr Emilio Lizardo: ........funny
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    Image of goldfarb goldfarb
    10/13/09

    In reply to Dick Believed Blade Runner Would Revive a Dying Genre
    and he was dead 5 months later...
    an amazing letter...all he got wrong was the commercial success part..but then, so did everyone else.
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    Image of Batmanuel Batmanuel
    10/13/09

    @goldfarb:

    I wouldn't call it a commercial failure. A box office failure, yes. After you consider all the video, DVDs, Director's Cut DVDs, Special Edition DVDs, Final Cut DVDs, and Blu-Ray editions sold, I'm sure someone has made money off of this movie.
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    goldfarb promoted this comment Batmanuel was starred Batmanuel was unstarred
    Image of goldfarb goldfarb
    10/13/09

    @Batmanuel: it didn't make back it's budget at the box office = commercial failure
    that it, much later, was big on VHS and later DVD doesn't change that.
    and while it's aesthetic/design/cultural etc influence can go without saying, it had a negative impact on sci-fi film at the time because of that commercial failure.
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    Image of disatess disatess
    10/14/09

    @goldfarb: it costed 28 million ,it made back 32 million at the box office . Not a profitable success .
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    Image of reddingofish reddingofish
    10/13/09

    In reply to Dick Believed Blade Runner Would Revive a Dying Genre
    Thanks for that. Now I need to go get the Blu-Ray.
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    Image of rebelminion rebelminion
    10/13/09

    @reddingofish: Oooo... yeah. Have they fully remastered it for Blu-Ray?
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    Image of lostarchitect lostarchitect
    10/13/09

    @rebelminion: Hell yes, and it looks GREAT. Well, it was actually remastered and recut for theatrical release as "The Final Cut". I see small details in this version that I never saw before. It is well worth picking up.
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    Image of burlybax burlybax
    10/13/09

    In reply to Dick Believed Blade Runner Would Revive a Dying Genre
    Right on!
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    Ruthless, If you let me promoted this comment burlybax was starred burlybax was unstarred
    Image of lostarchitect lostarchitect
    10/13/09

    In reply to Dick Believed Blade Runner Would Revive a Dying Genre
    This is great to see. I love that movie, and it may well have started my sci-fi fascination when I was a kid. I'm glad that PKD thought it was great, too.
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    Image of Rocketknight Rocketknight
    10/13/09

    In reply to Dick Believed Blade Runner Would Revive a Dying Genre
    I'm getting kind of misty-eyed. It's good to know that something he felt so strongly about came about to be true.
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    Image of rek rek
    09/01/09

    In reply to Margaret Atwood Says She Doesn't Write Science Fiction, Ursula K. Le Guin Disagrees
    Fight fight fight!
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    Image of Evil Tortie's Mom: R.O.A.C.H. Evil Tortie's Mom: R.O.A.C.H.
    08/31/09

    In reply to Margaret Atwood Says She Doesn't Write Science Fiction, Ursula K. Le Guin Disagrees
    Ursula speaks the truth, beautifully.

    Everyone (esp. in CanLit) needs to read this.
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    Image of Wookie1972 Wookie1972
    09/24/09

    @Evil Tortie's Mom: R.O.A.C.H.:
    Anyone who follows CanLit has heard of the Canada Reads contest on CBC. I have always hoped that someone would have the guts to suggest Neuromancer, which was written in Vancouver (as I believe all Gibson's works have been) To those who gripe that none of the novel takes place in Canada, or that Gibson was born in the US, I would say a) Michael Ondaatje wasn't born in Canada and b) none of the English Patient takes place in Canada. It's elitism, pure and simple.
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    Image of TheAlmanac TheAlmanac
    08/31/09

    In reply to Margaret Atwood Says She Doesn't Write Science Fiction, Ursula K. Le Guin Disagrees
    Atwood's nonsensical, elitist attitude towards classifying these works of hers is my single biggest pet peeve in CanLit, and I'm very glad to see someone of Le Guin's stature call her on it.

    As others have said, it's not as if Atwood has anything to worry about in her career, so (even though we can't look into her mind and know for sure) any reason other than literary snobbery for these weird distinctions seems somewhat baffling.
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    Evil Tortie's Mom: R.O.A.C.H. promoted this comment TheAlmanac was starred TheAlmanac was unstarred
    Image of Evil Tortie's Mom: R.O.A.C.H. Evil Tortie's Mom: R.O.A.C.H.
    08/31/09

    @TheAlmanac: UKLeG says in the linked article: She doesn't want the literary bigots to shove her into the literary ghetto.

    That's why Atwood protests too much.
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    Image of TheAlmanac TheAlmanac
    08/31/09

    @Evil Tortie's Mom: R.O.A.C.H.: If she were a CanLit up-and-comer, I might be able to understand that sort of fear, but at this point in her career? Why would she still think her place in the Canadian literary canon isn't assured?

    If anything, acknowledging that a few of her works are in this genre would get her fannish accolades as well as all of the prestige she already has...
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    Image of Faustroll Faustroll
    08/31/09

    In reply to Margaret Atwood Says She Doesn't Write Science Fiction, Ursula K. Le Guin Disagrees
    Shorter Margret Atwood: "My book about a genetically modified, post apocalyptic world is not science fiction!" right.

    But if we judge it by the standards of literary fiction, it utterly fails, because it disregards the tropes of that genre and adopts the tropes of speculative fiction. She's trying to have her cake and eat it too. (And as we who are familiar with sci-fi tropes know, the cake is in fact, a lie).
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    Image of rikchik rikchik
    08/31/09

    @Faustroll: For making that last reference work, you rule.
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    Discodave: R.O.A.C.H. M.O.T.E.L. promoted this comment rikchik was starred rikchik was unstarred
    Image of Faustroll Faustroll
    08/31/09

    @rikchik: Thanks. I hesitated since it's a bit past it's prime. But then, so is bitching about how your post-apocalyptic novel isn't sci-fi.
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