Unfortunately for humans, death has no watch, clock, or any perception of time, for that matter. Death can come at day one or at year 81, it doesn't matter for him, only thing that is certain is he will come for every single one of us sooner or later. This is of course, all in response to the opening statements that Swayze's death was untimely. While I never got to truly appreciate his work, I do admire his body of work from afar.
Im glad this didnt go down. I would hate to think that Swayze's last foray into celluloid was a parody of one of his best films! I want to remember him for Road house, Ghost and Donnie Darko. Its also nice to think though, if Swayze did agree to this..it does show how cool is sense of humour was!!!
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@CoffinDodger (If the typos crap. Blame my keyboard): Yes, Donnie Darko and Roadhouse but I'd like to add "To Wong Foo" He brought great dignity and respect to a role that could have been one giant cheap laugh with a lessor actor.
@CoffinDodger (If the typos crap. Blame my keyboard): I got a kick out of Swayze in that cheesy movie I caught on SciFi Channel a bit back called George and the Dragon with James Purefoy, Piper Perabo, and Michael Clark Duncan. It was a great fun medieval sword/dragon flick that I recommend watching if you haven't seen it.
He was much better than it was, and I was sorry to see him wasting his talent and remaining life on it. The writing was dull and pedestrian and the supporting actors were TERRIBLE.
If the trailer is to be believed (which, honestly most trailers aren't) It looks like the movie takes most of the good aspects of the book (the ideas about the afterlife, the grief process for her family) and ramps up the drama and search for her killer... and I can only hope the ending is altered so the plight of her killer is not so anti-climactic.
In fact, I'd say my only gripes from seeing the trailer are casting choices- I love the casting for Suzie, but I always imagined her mother and father being a bit older than Rachel Weisz and Mark Wahlberg. And for some reason I still don't see Susan Sarandon as being old enough to play a grandmother (while reading the book, I pictured Elaine Stritch.)
Years ago I read the book with great anticipation and was quite disappointed with the storyline. The trailer looks as though the screenplay is a significant re-write of the original narrative, and that's a good thing. Otherwise it'll have a one-weekend run that will leave people walking out and asking themselves, "Why the heck did I see THAT!?"
@EarthSmiles: Agreed. There was no justice for anyone in the book. Sadly, the movie will likely spur sales of the book. What a nightmare for families who may actually have missing loved ones.
@a_brilliant_deception: I think that was the point of the book- that life doesn't get wrapped up into neat little packages; oftentimes there are questions that will never be answered, and problems that will never be solved. I think the author did this on purpose, as well as making a very deliberate decision to have Susie choose love over revenge when given the choice... she's saying that we should focuse on the good influences people make on our lives, rather than dwell on the unanswerable questions and negative influences that haunt us.
That being said, I still think the book would make a crappy movie if translated without some much needed revision.
@Griff: You make a lot of valid points and have offered an accurate interpretation of the book. I agree with what you're saying. Even so, I thought the book was awful.
SPOILERS AHEAD: The girl is abducted and murdered by a serial rapist. Her body is disposed of in a way that ensures it will never be found; therefore the family never recovers her remains and is denied whatever sense of closure that may bring. Lastly, the killer is never caught, and perishes in an off-hand manner without retribution. Yep, that's the book, and how messed up is that?
Yes, we can only hope that the movie offers that much needed revision of the novel. Let me know how it turns out!
I remember watching the Penikett boxing scene and thinking "okay, obviously Josh is catering to the ladies". And later, when Echo shows up as Ms. Penn "...and the men too. Just a little."
anyone else thinking that geek boy recreates his own little Caligula world when no one else is looking?
and feminist? So NOT... not when the lead character's first viewing is of a "girlfriend" hired out for a weekend of "fun" with a fellow who doesn't seem to have problems getting his own women and she passes a Geisha on the way back to her mindwipe.
and the FBI link... very weak. So this guy's being yelled at for doing his job and then... what? And unless there's something very MAJOR about to happen nothing's going to change. Other than Echo continuing to be a sexual toy for anyone with enough money. Very empowering, Joss.
@Sheryl Nantus: I don't think we're supposed to approve of Echo being a sexual toy. It's not a feminist story because "yay human slavery," but because it critiques the ways in which we're all Echo.
The pilot was not very convincing. The episode needed more sex and violence, and instead we got an asthmatic negotiator who bungles the job and it didn't even open the door on promise she's supposed to start remembering her own life, or whatever the premise was. The theme song is just mind numbing and way too Lilith Fair for a Friday night sci-fi show. Helo's story seems to contradict the teaser: why is the Dollhouse buying kidnapped girls from Romanian thugs when the first scene with Dushku implies it's somewhat voluntary and in exchange for getting out of some trouble she was in?
I had planned on waiting until Fox ordered more scripts before starting to watch. Sort of wished I'd stuck to my guns on that, now.
@rek: Well, I think Helo is barking up the wrong tree. He thinks the Dollhouse is using kidnapped Russian/Central European women, when they're actually using local volunteers.
Are we supposed to be rooting for the mind-wiping techno-pimps? I mean, dress it up any way you please, but this is essentially the ultimate call-girl/boy service that can also branch out into subverting the law and vigilantism when the need arises. By any rational standard of measurement this place would be seen as amoral at best and "evil" at worst.
How any of this could be construed as "feminist" (so far) is beyond me. These "dolls" have no free will or control over their exploitation. No matter why they signed up (and it seems they use pressure tactics to gain those sign-ups), I doubt they realized they were going to be "dolls" living under a near-total subjugation. Unlike the happy geisha/hooker mash-up in Firefly, there doesn't seem to be a moral "out" here.
I suppose the feminist subtext could be that the whole show is a meditation on how our society controls and exploits women, but from the pilot alone you'd have to do a lot of digging to arrive at that destination.
@Jason-Pitzl-Waters: Bingo. Joss has said a million times that the show is critiquing the way our society objectifies and exploits women. I think the critique will get more explicit over time. Boyd, Echo's handler, is supposed to be "our" way into those questions, because he asks them more and more. Plus Tahmoh of course.
@Jason-Pitzl-Waters: I think we're supposed to root for Echo to rebel against them. Eventually. I get the feelign this is a thinky show, not a straight up "good and bad defined at the beginning, now here's some action" show. This week, Echo was a prostitute and saved a child's life. Maybe next week, she'll kill someone equally worthy of saving. I'm interested to see what happens with the memory flashes, and how she hides her awakening from her controllers.
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I'd have to add Red Dawn and Point Break to the list.
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He was much better than it was, and I was sorry to see him wasting his talent and remaining life on it. The writing was dull and pedestrian and the supporting actors were TERRIBLE.
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He'll only talk to Whoopie Goldberg though.
(don't look at me that way, I didn't come up with it)
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In fact, I'd say my only gripes from seeing the trailer are casting choices- I love the casting for Suzie, but I always imagined her mother and father being a bit older than Rachel Weisz and Mark Wahlberg. And for some reason I still don't see Susan Sarandon as being old enough to play a grandmother (while reading the book, I pictured Elaine Stritch.)
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That being said, I still think the book would make a crappy movie if translated without some much needed revision.
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SPOILERS AHEAD: The girl is abducted and murdered by a serial rapist. Her body is disposed of in a way that ensures it will never be found; therefore the family never recovers her remains and is denied whatever sense of closure that may bring. Lastly, the killer is never caught, and perishes in an off-hand manner without retribution. Yep, that's the book, and how messed up is that?
Yes, we can only hope that the movie offers that much needed revision of the novel. Let me know how it turns out!
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anyone else thinking that geek boy recreates his own little Caligula world when no one else is looking?
and feminist? So NOT... not when the lead character's first viewing is of a "girlfriend" hired out for a weekend of "fun" with a fellow who doesn't seem to have problems getting his own women and she passes a Geisha on the way back to her mindwipe.
and the FBI link... very weak. So this guy's being yelled at for doing his job and then... what? And unless there's something very MAJOR about to happen nothing's going to change. Other than Echo continuing to be a sexual toy for anyone with enough money. Very empowering, Joss.
meh.
imo, of course.
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I had planned on waiting until Fox ordered more scripts before starting to watch. Sort of wished I'd stuck to my guns on that, now.
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How any of this could be construed as "feminist" (so far) is beyond me. These "dolls" have no free will or control over their exploitation. No matter why they signed up (and it seems they use pressure tactics to gain those sign-ups), I doubt they realized they were going to be "dolls" living under a near-total subjugation. Unlike the happy geisha/hooker mash-up in Firefly, there doesn't seem to be a moral "out" here.
So so many issues here.
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