I would love to see another X-Files Movie, heck I could see many more. The show was great, and yes towards the end I felt they made some bad descisions and the final episode was HORRIBLE. Still, I miss the show and would like to see it evolve into something more through the movies.
@brewern: I thought the final episode was absolutely fantastic, so we part ways on that opinion, but I am so excited about the possibility of a 3rd film. Hooray!
Eh, I have mixed feeling about it. I'd love a movie that would wrap up all the loose ends (Alien invasion, baby William, etc) but I'm tentative. X-Files has hurt me so many times in the past, I don't know how I can forgive.
I love The X-Files...but it's over. Can't we let it remain favorably in our minds (forgetting the last movie completely helps)? We just don't need this any more than we need a "reboot" of BSG.
Looking back at the X-Files, a show that I started out as a fan, became a mega fan, and near the end just stopped caring, I have to say this:
The X-Files is dead. I really no longer care about the characters of Mulder and Skully. I don't care about the conspiracies or cover ups or the ice cream man that kidnapped Mulder's sister (It would have so degenerated to that level). I just don't care. The show itself sucked what love I had for it, out of me (I wonder if this is how people who watch Lost will feel in a decade).
But! But, I would like to see Duchovny and Anderson guest star on Fringe. Not together mind you, but separately, and maybe playing each-other's X-Files character.
All I have to say is, the last X-Files movie wasn't bad. It was basically another 2 episodes of the show, so sure it wasn't especially awesome, but if that aired during the running series nobody would have a bad word to say about it.
Except that they killed Amanda Peet, that sort of sucked.
And Fringe is not all that X-filey. That's like saying Lost is like Robinson Crusoe.
@BlueBeard: I loved the last movie, I completely agree it was just another 2 part episode which is what I wanted. I am completely happy having a new 2 hour x-files episode every couple years.
@BlueBeard: I really liked it too. It was wrongly advertised/promoted (FOX screwing up the promotion of a sci-fi property? Shock!) as a big summer splody movie, when it was a character study. It should have been a fall release.
@gorehound: Yeah, you tell'em. You tell'em all about your fetish for originality and how your memories of the past will be ruined by a reboot of the X-Files.
@gorehound: Instead of griping so much about Hollywood and its lack of originality, why don't you make your own movie. For about $3000 you could make a nifty little short film. Who knows, you could be the next Neill Blomkamp.
Oh come on, Fringe is nice and all but who seriously thinks it can compare to the x-files?
On top of that, yes, there is definitely still need for a new movie. The story wasn't finished - they have discovered that the alien take-over is planned for 2012 and want to prevent it. I for one am dying to know how they'll manage that and I know there are lots of people out there who feel the same. If there really only was room for one more movie they should have made this next one instead of "I want to believe". Which I didn't even hate, by the way, only the fact that they didn't even mention said take-over and didn't seem to be planning how to fight it: continuity disaster! A real ending would be lovely.
I can't imagine an X-Files reboot working. They caught lightning in a bottle with the chemistry between Anderson and Duchovny, and plenty of people failed trying to imitate the ongoing SF conspiracy they poineered.
Of course, my judgement isn't to be trusted, since I thought X-Files 2 was a fine film whose major flaw was not having a story epic enough for a motion picture. The film itself was well done, though, and stands among the best episodes in my eyes.
That's got nothing to do with Emmerich: within the X-Files mythos itself, in the last episode Mulder found out from the Smoking Man that the alien invasion is set for December 2012.
Basically, the "Syndicate" were the guys who were originally supposed to find out about the aliens....but in the 1970's they decided it was impossible to resist, and officially "surrendered" to them.
The "Alien colonists" apparently evolved on Earth but left in ancient times....this got complicated....but apparently the "Black Oil" *is* the alien, at least in an early stage....what the aliens didn't even tell the Syndicate (but they found out in the movie) is that the aliens *gestate* inside of people, they don't just take them over....they use their bio-mass to grow the adult stage of the alien inside of them, which then bursts out and matures into the familar "Grey Alien" (it's not like Dark Skies where the Greys were slaves to the parasite)
Given that its a "sentient virus" it was theoretically possible to make a vaccine; both the US Syndicate and their Russian counterparts were working on a vaccine...albeit an untested, weak one, but all their hopes were on it; eventually the Russians made the vaccine first, but the US syndicate stole it too, and were eventually able to perfect the vaccine.
But in the meantime, since the 70's, the Syndicate wanted part of humanity to live on, even as slaves, so the aliens agreed to let them undertake Hybridization experiments, that would convert the family members of the Syndicate into human/alien hybrids (not through procreation, gene therapy on live-adults)
Mulder's sister was taken because of this; she became one of their experiments. It's unclear if she ever survived (a later season had a very bad episode where Mulder finds out more about what happened to her, she may have died, but he came to peace with it....with isn't an answer, because other bad guys spoke of her as "alive" and there's a legion of Samantha-clones)
But meanwhile, "out in space" there's a war going on between the Black Oil aliens and the "Faceless Rebels" - other aliens who mutilated themselves by sewing their orificies shut to keep the black oil out. It's not clear who's winning, but in the meantime, Faceless Rebels came to Earth and incinerated every Syndicate base they could find, wiping almost all of them out except for the Smoking Man.
Now the aliens have shifted gears, and are developing "super soldiers" who are nearly impossible to kill (they can survive being decapitated or regenerate from a single surviving vertebra)...the only thing that can kill them is certain kinds of magnetism.
Basically, there's a special kind of "Magnetite" that exists in certain mountains; the last time the aliens came, the Pueblo Indians ran to the hills where there was Magnetite, that's why their cities were built there ("the original Shadow Government")
Basically the US government's plan for surviving the aliens is that all of our HomeSec bases in the Virginia mountains are bunkers built near lodes of magnetite, and they're just going to hide in the hills with no real plan for fighting them.
With the Syndicate gone, the aliens have now shifted to just plain infiltration using their hybridized alien super-soldiers.
@CodenameV: Dude you rock. You just combed out 10+ years of confusion in my X-Files canon.
Now I don't need to bother watching the last 2 seasons. Thanks, mate!
at this point it might be better to take x-files behind the barn and end its suffering. i love x-files but the last movie and the abismal final seasons have left me wanting less new material and more of teh late night tnt reruns.
@GreyHammer: The best part of X-Files, for me, became not the mythos episodes (for which it became increasingly obvious that the story line had gone all Twin Peaks on our collective ass), but the quirky-creepy-funny-moving episodes that were often just brilliant. As cynical as I am, the episode with the inbred southerners gave me the willies, and the insurance salesman who knew when you would die brought me to tears. And the episode with the genie, and the one that ended up at a Cher concert, and... well, you get my drift.
@Chip Overclock:
Agree 100%! Those stand alone episodes were the best - they could take on the iconic status like some of the original Twilight Zones - "To Serve Man" comes to mind.
@Chip Overclock: oh my god. "home"- the inbred one- terrified me for MONTHS after i saw it. and i wish there WERE more quirky/creepy/funny episodes ("humbug" being one of the best). the alien mythos was sometimes interesting but it got extremely silly.
@Chip Overclock: yes yes yes! X-Files really shone through those episodes. Wonderful, excellent writing. And the self-poking episodes? some of those had me in stitches. The one that stuck in memory was a episode about a community of pacifist vampires told in Rashomon-style recollections by both Mulder and Scully.
Remember, X Files: I Want To Believe was one of the first projects crippled by last year's writer's strike.
Chris Carter and Fox rushed it into production. They were so proud of themselves for 'beating' the strike that no one ever slammed on the brakes and went, "WAIT. This script needs a few more spins in the rewrite machine."
Fox will do it if Anderson and Duchovny sign up. It's low budget (XF2: IWTB came in at 30 million) and a built in audience.
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The X-Files is dead. I really no longer care about the characters of Mulder and Skully. I don't care about the conspiracies or cover ups or the ice cream man that kidnapped Mulder's sister (It would have so degenerated to that level). I just don't care. The show itself sucked what love I had for it, out of me (I wonder if this is how people who watch Lost will feel in a decade).
But! But, I would like to see Duchovny and Anderson guest star on Fringe. Not together mind you, but separately, and maybe playing each-other's X-Files character.
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Except that they killed Amanda Peet, that sort of sucked.
And Fringe is not all that X-filey. That's like saying Lost is like Robinson Crusoe.
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x files was best when they did their story arc stuff.black oil,aliens,super soldiers,etc.
x files never really finished their story arc so a new movie should continue on with new story.
what we really need is some of these suits in hollywood using their brains to come up with new original stuff.
i will in fact boycott your products and films if you keep on raping my past.
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On top of that, yes, there is definitely still need for a new movie. The story wasn't finished - they have discovered that the alien take-over is planned for 2012 and want to prevent it. I for one am dying to know how they'll manage that and I know there are lots of people out there who feel the same. If there really only was room for one more movie they should have made this next one instead of "I want to believe". Which I didn't even hate, by the way, only the fact that they didn't even mention said take-over and didn't seem to be planning how to fight it: continuity disaster! A real ending would be lovely.
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Of course, my judgement isn't to be trusted, since I thought X-Files 2 was a fine film whose major flaw was not having a story epic enough for a motion picture. The film itself was well done, though, and stands among the best episodes in my eyes.
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Basically, the "Syndicate" were the guys who were originally supposed to find out about the aliens....but in the 1970's they decided it was impossible to resist, and officially "surrendered" to them.
The "Alien colonists" apparently evolved on Earth but left in ancient times....this got complicated....but apparently the "Black Oil" *is* the alien, at least in an early stage....what the aliens didn't even tell the Syndicate (but they found out in the movie) is that the aliens *gestate* inside of people, they don't just take them over....they use their bio-mass to grow the adult stage of the alien inside of them, which then bursts out and matures into the familar "Grey Alien" (it's not like Dark Skies where the Greys were slaves to the parasite)
Given that its a "sentient virus" it was theoretically possible to make a vaccine; both the US Syndicate and their Russian counterparts were working on a vaccine...albeit an untested, weak one, but all their hopes were on it; eventually the Russians made the vaccine first, but the US syndicate stole it too, and were eventually able to perfect the vaccine.
But in the meantime, since the 70's, the Syndicate wanted part of humanity to live on, even as slaves, so the aliens agreed to let them undertake Hybridization experiments, that would convert the family members of the Syndicate into human/alien hybrids (not through procreation, gene therapy on live-adults)
Mulder's sister was taken because of this; she became one of their experiments. It's unclear if she ever survived (a later season had a very bad episode where Mulder finds out more about what happened to her, she may have died, but he came to peace with it....with isn't an answer, because other bad guys spoke of her as "alive" and there's a legion of Samantha-clones)
But meanwhile, "out in space" there's a war going on between the Black Oil aliens and the "Faceless Rebels" - other aliens who mutilated themselves by sewing their orificies shut to keep the black oil out. It's not clear who's winning, but in the meantime, Faceless Rebels came to Earth and incinerated every Syndicate base they could find, wiping almost all of them out except for the Smoking Man.
Now the aliens have shifted gears, and are developing "super soldiers" who are nearly impossible to kill (they can survive being decapitated or regenerate from a single surviving vertebra)...the only thing that can kill them is certain kinds of magnetism.
Basically, there's a special kind of "Magnetite" that exists in certain mountains; the last time the aliens came, the Pueblo Indians ran to the hills where there was Magnetite, that's why their cities were built there ("the original Shadow Government")
Basically the US government's plan for surviving the aliens is that all of our HomeSec bases in the Virginia mountains are bunkers built near lodes of magnetite, and they're just going to hide in the hills with no real plan for fighting them.
With the Syndicate gone, the aliens have now shifted to just plain infiltration using their hybridized alien super-soldiers.
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Now I don't need to bother watching the last 2 seasons. Thanks, mate!
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Agree 100%! Those stand alone episodes were the best - they could take on the iconic status like some of the original Twilight Zones - "To Serve Man" comes to mind.
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Chris Carter and Fox rushed it into production. They were so proud of themselves for 'beating' the strike that no one ever slammed on the brakes and went, "WAIT. This script needs a few more spins in the rewrite machine."
Fox will do it if Anderson and Duchovny sign up. It's low budget (XF2: IWTB came in at 30 million) and a built in audience.
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