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    A Deadly Fungus Is Stalking This Creature

    A Major Breakthrough In Cloud Engineering

    Global Warming Will Make You Feel The Earth Move Under Your Feet

    Global Warming Gave Rise to the Inca Empire

    Arctic Summers Could Be Ice-Free And Filled With Life By 2030

    Could Overpopulation Save The Earth From Global Warming?

    Accelerated Climate Change Will Cause Millions Of Refugees

    An Island Sinks Into The Ocean, Lost To Human Habitation

    The Agonizing Loveliness Of Global Warming Maps

    Pollution May Actually Be Good for the Earth

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    Image of gorehound gorehound
    11/04/09

    In reply to A Deadly Fungus Is Stalking This Creature
    that tree frog is so cute i want one as a pet #ecology
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    Image of gunnalastair gunnalastair
    11/04/09

    In reply to A Deadly Fungus Is Stalking This Creature
    Actually the fungus - a naturally occurring disease - was originally restricted to a small area in Africa. It was human trade of amphibians that turned it into a worldwide phenomena.
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    Image of Hamslicer Hamslicer
    11/04/09

    In reply to A Deadly Fungus Is Stalking This Creature
    I wonder how they taste...
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    Edited by Hamslicer at 11/04/09 9:52 AM Hamslicer was starred Hamslicer was unstarred
    Image of twophrasebark twophrasebark
    11/04/09

    In reply to A Deadly Fungus Is Stalking This Creature
    "But humans didn't put it there - an aggressive fungal invasion did."

    I disagree Charlie. It's highly likely that environmental damage from human created chemicals and toxins have caused susceptibility to this syndrome in frogs.

    Frogs are kind of the "canary in the coal mine" of nature. Their skin is very permeable and almost sponge-like. They very readily absorb just about anything in the ecosystem and are usually one of the first species to show signs of distress due to environmental insults.

    This is why it's very important to never pick up frogs you might find (however cute they are). They will absorb whatever is on your hands right through their skin.

    Just FYI...
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    Edited by twophrasebark at 11/04/09 9:51 AM twophrasebark was starred twophrasebark was unstarred
    Image of Hamslicer Hamslicer
    11/04/09

    @twophrasebark: invasive species from another continent perhaps? #ecology
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    Image of PendensProditor PendensProditor
    11/04/09

    @twophrasebark:

    Not only that, we're the reason chytrid is now everywhere.

    [www.edgeofexistence.org]

    "The recent surge in amphibian extinctions and the discovery of chytridiomycosis follows a recent and unprecedented increase in the human-derived movement of amphibians across the globe. Species are transported beyond their natural range to meet the needs of research laboratories, food supplies, captive collections and pest control. The three most commonly introduced species are the North American Bullfrog, Rana catesbiana, the African-clawed frog, Xenopus laevis and the Cane toad, Bufo marinus. All three species are known to be asymptomatic carriers of B. dendrobatidis-infection."

    We took amphibians that have a defense against the infection and put them in contact with amphibians all over the world that were utterly vulnerable to it. #ecology
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    Image of twophrasebark twophrasebark
    11/04/09

    @PendensProditor: Thanks for adding that great information. #ecology
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    Image of Charlie Jane Anders Charlie Jane Anders
    11/04/09

    @twophrasebark: @gunnalastair: Yeah sorry about that... actually my original opening paragraph got tweaked before it went up, and I didn't mean to suggest that the fungal infestation was not humans' fault. I had a strong suspicion it would turn out to be our doing, one way or another.... #ecology
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    Image of twophrasebark twophrasebark
    11/04/09

    @Charlie Jane Anders: No worries!
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    Edited by twophrasebark at 11/04/09 3:26 PM twophrasebark was starred twophrasebark was unstarred
    Image of Klebert L. Hall Klebert L. Hall
    11/05/09

    @PendensProditor:
    So what? It's still plain old natural selection whether the fungus was distributed by humans or birds.

    Extinction and survival are what the environment are made of.
    -Kle. #ecology
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    Image of PendensProditor PendensProditor
    11/05/09

    @Klebert L. Hall:
    It all depends on what sort of future Earth you prefer. We have more say over it every day. As a consequence, one day we'll be living on exactly the Earth we deserve, whatever that may be. #ecology
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    Image of Klebert L. Hall Klebert L. Hall
    11/06/09

    @PendensProditor:
    "Deserve" is a rather silly term.

    Environmental preservation (while pleasant) is a hugely more "unnatural" process than extinction.

    The set of species existing on Earth at any one time is no more perfect than the set of species existing in some other era. Trying to "freeze frame" the global environment is it's state as of some given baseline year is probably impossible, and sort of perverse.
    -Kle. #ecology
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    Image of PendensProditor PendensProditor
    11/06/09

    @Klebert L. Hall:
    I don't personally know of anyone advocating the arbitrary "freeze frame" of the global environment. I suppose they're out there, but usually this is just one of those well-worn environmental strawmen.

    I merely advocate that given the vast array of services the natural world provides us with (billions if not trillions of dollars worth, for free), a gradual rate of global extinctions has perhaps more short-term utility to us than a rapid rate. Those who are "freeze framing" are only acting as a counterweight. It just makes good business sense not to imperil such a good deal so long as we still depend on it, and it's hard to determine exactly what will and won't imperil it so it's prudent to err on the side of caution.

    And I frequently hear the argument that it's "natural" for human beings to drive other animals into extinction, yet it's "unnatural" for human beings to protect species (or networks of species) that provide us with a benefit, either directly or indirectly. The asymmetry always struck me as strange, especially since one would have to include something as fundamental as agriculture in the latter category. Perhaps that is unnatural; it still seems to be a good idea, regardless. #ecology
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    Image of Klebert L. Hall Klebert L. Hall
    11/07/09

    @PendensProditor:
    Sure.
    Still no real reason to get all worked up about a frog.
    -Kle. #ecology
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    Image of J_Frank_Parnell J_Frank_Parnell
    11/04/09

    In reply to A Deadly Fungus Is Stalking This Creature
    Isn't there a topical cream for this? #ecology
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    Image of evildead1971 evildead1971
    11/04/09

    In reply to A Deadly Fungus Is Stalking This Creature
    i got 3 words for them

    tough actin tinactin #ecology
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    Image of enderwiggin13 enderwiggin13
    11/04/09

    @evildead1971: Boom! #ecology
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    Image of Belabras: now with Kung Fu grip! Belabras: now with Kung Fu grip!
    11/04/09

    @enderwiggin13: Goes the dynamite? #ecology
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    Image of enderwiggin13 enderwiggin13
    11/04/09

    @Belabras ate my dingo!: No, Boom! Tough actin' Tinactin: [www.youtube.com] #ecology
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    Image of ♥AntiSocialSocialite♥ ♥AntiSocialSocialite♥
    09/17/09

    In reply to A Major Breakthrough In Cloud Engineering
    I saw cloud creation (relatively) successfully tested a while ago on Discovery Project Earth. It was pretty awesome.
    [dsc.discovery.com]
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    Image of Anekanta - former space marine Anekanta - former space marine
    09/17/09

    In reply to A Major Breakthrough In Cloud Engineering
    Too bad Kimberley-Clarke is busy hacking down most of the Earth's remaining Boreal Forest (a large percentage of which is in Canada) to make toilet paper. Apparently old growth cellulose is softer.
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    Image of Althestane Althestane
    09/17/09

    In reply to A Major Breakthrough In Cloud Engineering
    This validates my strange, random childhood perception that deciduous trees and conifers are at war with one another. CHEMICAL WARFARE!
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    Image of NerD: Blattella NerD: Blattella
    09/17/09

    In reply to A Major Breakthrough In Cloud Engineering
    Fucking trees. We spend all this time getting rid of you, and now we need you to make clouds?

    You think you could have told us that earlier?
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    Image of aubreyf aubreyf
    09/17/09

    In reply to A Major Breakthrough In Cloud Engineering
    But can they turn cloud reflectiveness up to 11?
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    Image of Pope John Peeps II Pope John Peeps II
    09/17/09

    @aubreyf: Trees understand that 10 is the most.
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    Image of J_Frank_Parnell J_Frank_Parnell
    09/17/09

    In reply to A Major Breakthrough In Cloud Engineering
    Great, why don't these scientists team up with the guys that want to re-vegetate the Sahara and turn it into a pine forest. Not only will it make mor monoterpenes, but it will absorb more CO2 and make northern Africa smell like an air freshener.
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    Image of Evil Tortie's Mom: R.O.A.C.H. Evil Tortie's Mom: R.O.A.C.H.
    09/17/09

    @J_Frank_Parnell: Win-win-win scenario.
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    Image of YeiDadinator YeiDadinator
    09/17/09

    In reply to A Major Breakthrough In Cloud Engineering
    Keep in mind that even if we cool the Earth by increasing its reflectivity, carbon emissions will still acidify the oceans. So while geoengineering is potentially a good idea, dealing with sunlight isn't enough.
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    Image of Annalee Newitz Annalee Newitz
    09/17/09

    @YeiDadinator: Totally. But this is still a cool idea.
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    Image of Evil Tortie's Mom: R.O.A.C.H. Evil Tortie's Mom: R.O.A.C.H.
    09/17/09

    @Annalee Newitz: Can we genetically engineer (or just plain ol' crossbreed) pine trees that can survive the warmer climates? So they can grow farther south.

    They can absorb CO2, give off these whatsit particles, freshen the air, and make it Christmas every day.
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    Image of Jeriba Jeriba
    09/17/09

    In reply to A Major Breakthrough In Cloud Engineering
    I'm surprised we don't yet have a "WHAT COULD POSSIBLY GO WRONG?" tag. This story seems like a good candidate.

    Didn't the scientists learn enough from the TV show Dinosaurs about why seeding clouds is a bad idea?
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    Image of hamshank hamshank
    09/17/09

    In reply to A Major Breakthrough In Cloud Engineering
    Excellent news ... now, what did we do with all the trees... sure they're around this planet somewhere ...
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